Yeah, I wasn’t being deadly serious about that, but I was more talking about a phenomenon that we see on these boards far too often, that someone mentions a fairly specific thing, then people come on and get all outraged about something almost completely unrelated to what the original person had said. What I’m saying is if it doesn’t apply to you, don’t get upset about somebody saying something that you are making about you that isn’t actually about you. For example, someone might say that they think children running around in malls unsupervised is dangerous. Posters then come in all outraged to say that their children are NEVER unsupervised in malls. Well, good for you - this isn’t about you, then.
I don’t think it’s too much to ask.
I think some women are naturally thin. I know some that are naturally tiny and they look feminine and beautiful. I think there are some women who, in my opinion look like they starved themselves down to an unhealthy weight, and they are all collar bone and rib bones and they look terrible.
I know fat women who are so large and sloppy that they look a mess, and I know fat women that are big and sexy with that hip to waist ratio that I find very hot.
The question is, why do we go around telling people that we feel they are sloppy or gross or look like starving prepubescent boys? That seems odd that we have to point out these negative opinions when it is not the topic of discussion.
Someone posts about their cat, and someone else drops into the thread to say, “by the way, eat a sandwich, you look like a twelve year old boy.” That kind of shit makes me think someone is struggling with some serious issues that they are projecting on others.
As for ‘curvy’, I think a lot of big women have decided to claim that word, but I still maintain that most people that think of it actually mean slim, but with a waist smaller than bust and hips.
Butterflies, if it makes you feel any better, I’ve been annoyed about the same thing on these boards (and I say this as someone with some weight to lose). It’s nice that there is little tolerance for fat-bashing here, and that a lot of guys will say they like women with “meat on their bones” (it’s a change from how the media presents ideals, and when you DO have some extra weight, it’s nice to know you have a chance to appeal, know what I mean?), but…
too many people go too far and basically bash thin women. “I know guys who’ve gotten bruises on their pelvis after sex with a skinny chick!”, “I’d rather have a bigger girl than one who looks like a little boy”, “goddamn, she looks like a box of coathangers” (quotations approximate but not exact). How the goddamned fuck is that not rude?
It’s rude to call an overweight woman a lardass, sack of fat, whatever. It’s just as rude to say things like the above regarding thin women when the poster is trying to go out of his/her way to state their preference for heavier women.
Related to that, I worked with a woman who was dangerously underweight. She didn’t have an eating disorder (I saw her eat good amounts of food and she really didn’t go to the bathroom much at all) but she just couldn’t gain weight. Before her pregnancy, she was 5’1" and about 105 lbs. Slender but a good weight for her height. After her pregnancy, she lost all the babyweight… and more. She was down to about 85 lbs. Her doctors were freaking out. She was freaking out. I saw her eat and eat to try to gain weight, try to drink Ensure to get some extra calories in.
After 8 months… She was up to 87 lbs. That’s obviously not healthy, but all she had was endless comments like, “Oh, I wish I had your problem!”, “too skinny? Hah hah! Try being me, honey!” (person was overweight), “I’d kill to be you!”. This when she’s struggling to gain weight and having doctors freaking out about her health. Yes, usually people in the US have more trouble losing weight than gaining weight, but how could people be so thoughtless to her?
I think it’s tied into the idea that it’s okay to bias against oppressors. Like how it’s okay if whites or men or (ideally) white men get a disadvantage because they normally have it so good. Skinny is the same kind of thing, since in this society skinny has its own kind of power. The fattie affirmative action is that they get to be rude to skinny chicks at any time and for any reason, and nobody can say boo about it because skinny bitches have it so good.
Being oppressed and being a hypocrite often go hand in hand.
Whoa. You should start a Great Debates thread about that. That’s heavy.
Yeah, but what if you have a WHR that’s about .7 but still have no fat? I mean, my waist is pretty tiny, both in general and relative to my hips, and my breasts are pretty large for my frame, even though I don’t really have any extra body fat and am pretty toned. So I’d say I’m at least a little curvy.
Yes. Please.
Can we stop judging women on their dress size now please?
I’ve been fat. I’ve been scrawny. Same me, both extremes. I’ve heard nasty comments from complete strangers, as well as family and so called friends, through out the spectrum of Me.
I’m short (5’2"), smalled boned and have ranged from 87# to 180#. Same me.
Christ, it’s more pleasant to be thought a crackhead for my bad teeth than to be condemned for my weight.
So y’all wanna quit with the BS value judgments on women who are fatter or scrawnier than someone else?
(FTR – I’m not curvy. I have no waist or butt, ever. If you get unintentional bruises, you’re doing it wrong.)
Word!
This thread is about curves. I expressed a general preference for curves and a general dislike for women who do not have curves. Therefore, if you meet the general mathematical criteria for being curvy, I will likely find your body attractive; if you don’t, I likely will not. That has less to do with weight and more to do with distribution.
But ultimately, so what? Why is it so upsetting that I might find skinny women unattractive? How does this threaten anybody’s personhood? If you’re comfortable in your own skin, what the hell difference does it make? You either have curves or not and, either way, some will find you attractive and others won’t. I honestly don’t see how a general comment on personal preferences is any kind of threat to anyone. I mean, yes, if I don’t find you attractive, it means that we will be incompatible and you’ll never get a piece of this, but on the other hand, my wife probably wouldn’t appreciate me giving out pieces of this all willy-nilly anyway. Is that really such a great loss to anyone? Didn’t think so.
Did you even read the original comment I made to you? You know, post #53 where I said that people are entitled to their preferences and that is a good thing? Did you notice the part where I said that I was sorry to direct at you, that part ring a bell? That would suggest that it wasn’t about your personal preferences. What weird reality are you in when you read the Dope? First you accuse me of suggesting that Nigella Lawson is obese when I clearly didn’t and now you arrogantly think the women who are talking about the nasty comments about thin people are all doing it because they are upset because you aren’t going to be attracted to them? Pass whatever you are smoking, because I’ve gotta try some of it.
So when the next thread about overweight people rolls around, if someone goes in and asks them why they can’t stop shoving food in their mouths or something equally as ignorant, I’m sure we can expect you to to come and remind them that they need to be comfortable in their skins and featherlou will be right behind you to let them know if they don’t eat like a horse and lay around the house all day that they shouldn’t even respond because it doesn’t pertain to them.
How about dispelling stupid stereotypes and ignorant statements with a dash of truth, whether it is about you or not? Although I think it’s hilarious that you think the complaining is because you won’t find us smaller women attractive, the point is that these insults on thin people are all too often accepted and thrown around on this board which is supposed to be so far superior to any other place online. :rolleyes:
This thread got a lot less interesting when people stopped linking to images of beautifully curvy women.
I ask the same question to myself in “praise for boobs” threads, when inevitably there will be at least one person who declares large breasts to be disgusting or repulsive. Lord knows I’m not anywhere endowed enough to take those comments personally, but it still strikes me as being unnecessarily mean.
psst… beautiful, I won’t deny, but many of them aren’t curvy! 
I agree. Here are some more images of women I’d consider to be curvy, most of whom have been mentioned before:
America Ferrera (on left)
Kim Kardashian
Nigella Lawson
The woman to the right in this image is curvy, but I can’t see the proper angle on the one on the left to make a final judgment.
The image with this article is fascinating, as I didn’t know that my brains were located in my ass. (My ass is not nearly as big as that pictured, but I do have a wide hip spread and a narrow waist which would be even narrower if I lost some weight.)
Now, curvy vs. willowy isn’t really an argument I’m wanting to get into, as both have their advantages and disadvantages. On a semi-related note, I was helping a woman the other day who was significantly shorter than me, and she commented on how tall I was and how I was lucky. I mentioned that each had its own advantages, but we both had challenges when it came to buying clothing; she had to deal with “the only stuff in my size/height is often frumpy” whereas I rarely find stuff in my size that fits quite right on either the fit or the height accommodation in ladies’ clothing. Rather than taking offense at the “Oh, you’re so tall!” comment, I made it into a positive thing for the both of us. 
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I think the unnecessary meanness is just the usual internet stuff. Sort of like the people who seem to search for videos on youtube solely to leave offensive comments.
Maybe I misread my own post, but I don’t recall directing my last set of comments at you, since you’re not the only one who has been in this thread with the “thin” perspective. I also don’t recall seeing anything in this thread to suggest that people should “eat like a horse and lay around the house all day.” Not by me and not by anyone else. If there’s a thread about people with self-image/self-esteem issues kicking around here somewhere, perhaps that is where rants on whether whether thin people or fat people are more socially acceptable should go.
Yes, “curvy” is used as a code word for “fat”, but that is not its original or actual meaning.
I am considered somewhat “curvy”, but its mainly because of my breasts (38 C). I’m carrying about 20 lbs more than my “ideal” weight right now, which gives me more hips than I usually have and adds to the impression of curves. Plus, I can play it up with clothes to accentuate the curves.
But honestly, my body type is such that I have relatively small hips and ass (nice, but small:D) and in order to get a very pronounced waist, I have to do targeted exercises (or wear a corset:p) When I was younger and weighed 135 or so (at 5’7"), I never got any complaints about my figure, but I was always a bit envious of girls with bigger hips/asses. I looked far from a 12 yr old boy, mind you, but I did and do tend toward the more “willowly” look.
And when/if I drop these 20 lbs, my hips will be mostly gone. :rolleyes:
Eh, it’s all good. 
Add me to the chorus of “it’s come to mean “fat”, but that’s an abuse of the term.” It should mean “has curves”, and that can come at any weight.
I was “curvy” before puberty. I wasn’t overweight, but I was always soft textured, so to speak. An endomorph. Where my girlfriends had hard muscles, I had soft hugs, but I was strong and without excess body weight.
At puberty, my curves got even curvier. I was wearing a D cup by the end of sixth grade, with hips to match, but I was still right in the healthy range of weight.
In high school, my measurements were 37, 26, 37, for a waist to hip ratio of 0.70, the “most attractive” ratio, according to studies. I weighed right around 125 on a 5’6" frame. Despite what some posters have said (in this thread and others) about similar body types, I was *not *fat, although my thighs touched. Definitely curvy.
I went through an anorexic bout, got down to 110, with measurements of 36, 25, 35. Waist to hip = 0.71. This was the underweight phase, according to my physicians at the time and the BMI calculator today. This was when my bra size went all the way down to a C cup, the smallest it’s been since puberty started. Underweight (albeit only a little bit), and still curvy.
Now I weigh almost 250, same height, and I have measurements of 52, 37, 52… a waist to hip ratio of 0.71.Definitely fat. Still curvy.
I may be underweight, overweight or just right. But I always have been and always will be “curvy”.
Ditto what WhyNot said. To me, “curvy” means small waist to hip/rib cage ratio. I am curvy at a size eight, and I am curvy at a size sixteen.
But when I describe myself as “curvy” in conversation, I am always told “You’re not curvy, you’re tiny!”, so clearly it has come to mean “fat”. Which makes me crazy. I like being curvy! You don’t get to take “curvy” away from me just because I’m not fat anymore!