You say that as if that excuses their shenanigans. I guess we’ll just have to disagree on this point.
Sorry, didn’t see this until this evening.
I’m not sure what you’re asking here. Y’see, I was trying to imply that some people believe that they can tell who someone will vote for by what they look like, and might mess with someone they believe is collecting registrations for people who will vote for the other guy. I’m not sure how my hypothetical example of an ACORN employee collecting forms at a farmers’ market reflects on ACORN’s non-partisanship. Do you think members of only one political party shop at farmers’ markets? Which party would that be?
As to partisanship: well, they are, and they aren’t. ACORN is unquestionably part of the left, but they are more disciples of the populist faith than necessarily progressive. They believe in the people, to put it baldly, they believe that empowering the people to the maximum possible degree is the very essence of democracy. They are also devotees of local organization, tending to scorn large political organizations as too corrupt and compromised. This includes the Democratic Party. So, in that sense, yes, they are “non-partisan”.
But they most assuredly have a political agenda, one that finds most resistance from the conservative side of things. One only needs to have the cognitive capacity of cottage cheese to see that the Pubbies do not welcome thier efforts, and cheerfully wish the pox on them every Christmas.
I find their faith in the people inspiring if perhaps naive. But if they’re wrong, we are no worse off, the Great Experiment is a failure because the founding premise is false. But if they are right, then my hopes for a better world are based on solid fact.
Which would be awesome.
You, madam, are an idiot of the first water who wouldn’t understand the alphabet were it recited to you slowly. Or, as an alternative, you are a troll. I’m honestly on the fence.
Jesus, this is like the world’s longest “Who’s on first” routine. Folks, Carol has got to be takin’ the piss, and y’all are falling for it. No one can be this dense; if so the Earth would have been swallowed up by the black hole at the center of her brain by now.
Everyone, literally everyone, seems to understand the concepts “applications are not registrations” and “required by law to submit the registration applications, even if suspect” except Carol. Pretty much everyone else who has posted here understands it. Sarah Palin, at a press conference held earlier today, states that she read this in one of those newspapers she can’t remember the name of and gets it. At half time of yesterday’s Michgan-Penn State game, the Nittany Lions marching band spelled out “We Get it” on the field. Scientists have recorded whale song that strongly indicates that they (whales) get it. Recently deciphered tablets containing Cuneiform writing from approx. 4000 BC have turned out to say, and I quote, “We get it”. Just this afternoon, my dead mother sent me a message from beyond the grave that she’s OK, she’s happy, and she gets it.
So I’m pretty sure Carol actually gets it and is just having you on. But hey, maybe not.
The rules aren’t different. If you go to your municipality and submit a voter registration form with “Mickey Mouse” as the voter name, they legally have to accept the form. They will not add Mickey Mouse’s name to the voter rolls as it is a commonly known fictitious name, but they still have to accept the form and stamp it “disapproved” or whatever they do with obvious frauds.
The only difference with ACORN is that they can neither approve, deny, nor refuse applications. All they can do is mark it “probably fake” and send it to the municipality for final rejection, which is exactly what they’ve been doing, according to all reports. There’s a good reason for this… what if these rabid leftists got an application from someone wearing, horror of horrors, a McCain badge? Would you want them to be able to say “So, ‘Mr. Smith’, I think you’re trying to put one over on me. Watch me throw your application in the trash”. The law is there to protect everyone’s rights.
Seriously, please, a cite?
I just don’t know. I can’t be SURE. It’s all so complicated!
I’m pretty sure your local municipality would be breaking the law if they didn’t. Is there a reason this person couldn’t register if they moved 5 miles west to Podunksville?
WHAT LAW, FOR HEAVENS SAKE? Even in this crazy world, I doubt there’s a law requiring the registration of fake voters.
There is not a law requiring the registration of fake voters. But how would you know they are not fake if you do not accept the applications?
The applications must be accepted. If they are legitimate, they will be registered to vote. If they are fake, they will not be registered to vote.
But again, how would you know if yo udid not accept the applications? Do you leave that decision up to the clerk in the registration office?
What does a “fake voter” have to do with my post?
There are plenty of laws to protect Mickey Mouse’s right to register, so I’ll let you decide which law you’d like to break.
State and local laws apply. I have no idea what municipality you’re in. As you’re the one who suggested your municipality can reject complete applications, then you’d be the one who needs to provide that particular cite.
However, since we’re actually talking about what ACORN is required by law to do, it’s on a state-by-state basis. I’m not going to cite each of the 50 states for you, but if they were collecting applications in Virginia, this would be the law that would apply:
There you go, in black and white. Class 1 misdemeanor if you agree to deliver a signed application to the registrar and fail to do so. There is no provision for “if you think it’s fake” or “if the person looks sketchy.” It’s a law. Got it now?
In this thread? Let me check … ntucker, Torpor Beast, Eyer8, jsgoddess, jsgoddess, ladyfoxfyre, ntucker, DoctorJ, Kimstu, Euphonious Polemic, elucidator, Euphonious Polemic, Cosmic Relief, Baldwin, Euphonious Polemic, elucidator, Kimstu, Euphonious Polemic, jsgoddess, Carol Stream (WHAT!!! :eek:), Captain Carrot, wring, Jenaroph, Carol Stream, Jenaroph, Kimstu, Jenaroph, crowmanyclouds, Cosmic Relief, El_Kabong, Cosmic Relief, DMC, newcrasher, DMC, Cosmic Relief … count up the number of names … convert integer (that’s a fancy word for number, has anyone told Carol Stream this?) to Carol Streamlandian countening scribbleish …
Has I done gone and been woooshed (largely by myself, though I blame the board for removing the “New Post” thingy when you don’t open a new tab/window whatis problem (has anyone told Carol Stream this?) making it very easy to think your keeping up with the thread when in fact your missing half the new posts. I also blame Carol Stream for making my brain hurt from the stupid)?
CMC +fnord!
Did you know there was a new Doper meme, “has anyone told Carol Stream this?”, has anyone told crowmanyclouds this?
Would someone be kind enough to PM me my late pass?
This, kids, is what happens when you eat the stupid food for breakfast. 
No problem, I just got back to the computer myself just now. I went back and reread the original post I responded to and it appears that I misread that paragraph. Sorry for the confusion. My apologies.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10335900&postcount=531
Some cold schadenfreude being served by friend Askeptic over in GD. Joe Bob 'luci says “Check it out!”
If nothing else, Carol’s giving us a really good lesson in why pure bullshit has such a long shelf life.
There is a law saying they have to submit every voter registration card they recieve FOR REGISTRATION. At that stage the correct authorities DETERMINE IF IT IS A TRUE AND ACCURATE registration card.
what happens if the guys name actually is Michael Mouse? should Acorn toss his voter card because it’s “obviously fake”?
What are you people saying? Something about a law? I do not understand it.
There’s this law, see, that says that Mickey Mouse votes for Obama and is required by law to register multiple times.
That’s why he isn’t in movies any longer. Busy, busy, busy!