What -exactly- is wrong with Peter Pan?!

[Guinastasia]

Hmm…well, I will say-he probably does have issues.

However, read his bio:

Through The Cracks Ministries - My Bio

He states that he wanted to be a “fairy” at a very young age, so his dad gave him a pretend magic wand. When he was 12-his mother committed suicide.

Blah blah blah.

While I will say yes, maybe he’s not totally untroubled, I really wouldn’t qualify him as crazy, insane, moronic, etc etc…

I say, he’s just someone that happens to amuse me.

[Scylla]

Guin:

Hey wow! That’s great! Are you gonna apologize for jumpin all over my shit in page 2 now?

[BoBettie]

I have no clue how I was thinking Stoid and typed Zoid. Must have been a brain fart. Sorry Stoid.

I believe you were actually trying to create a combo Stoid/Zette persona. Can you imagine? Look out world!

Zette

[Diane]

I believe you were actually trying to create a combo Stoid/Zette persona. Can you imagine? Look out world!

Now I’m scared! :eek:

[Guinastasia]

*Originally posted by Scylla *
**Guin:

Hey wow! That’s great! Are you gonna apologize for jumpin all over my shit in page 2 now? **

What the hell? I said it was a possibility he was troubled, or had some issues-I didn’t say:

The University of Common Sense, Boyo.

This is more than a playful little innocent fixation. The guy has altered his appearance, and is attempting to (successfully, I might add) live his fixation to one degree or another.

Peter Pan is an interesting archetype. His “never gonna grow up” philosophy suggests a fleeing from responsibility as well as a denial of his own mortality.

These are two pretty common anxieties, but his taking it to such a deliberate and overt level can be seen as a seeking of validation for these feelings. He’s trying to draw others into his little fantasy world of denial.

It will most likely stifle his career, romance, and family life, and as he continues to age and finds he’s failing to live up to his archetypal standards more and more it may send him into a depression or a crises. I’d be surprised if he didn’t suffer severe bouts of depression already.

This guy has chosen to emulate Peter Pan to an oustounding and overt degree, and to publicize his emulation. He has gone so far as to create a website, grow his hair in a childlike fashion, have himself photographed as Peter Pan, and either convince or find a girlfriend who is willing to participate in it with him. This represents a rather deep commitment on his part, and it says something about who he is.

Peter Pan is a lost boy, a child who never grows up. This archetype suggests he has issues with being an adult or a grownup. Perhaps he’s denying his own mortality as well. It suggests a fleeing or denial of responsibility, as well as a strong dissatisfaction with reality.

He may feel like an imposter in his day to day life, and to get away from his dissatisfaction he may create more overt and elaborate attempts to move his desired archetypal existence into the real world. This will inevitably lead to failure. Denying who you are and pretending to be something else isn’t healthy when it’s taken to extremes.

This is not merely self-expression. This is an attempt to recreate himself. That he feels he needs to make the attempt shows there is a problem.

On the other hand, it does say some nice things about him. A desire to be good, a desire to be innocent (if simplistic,) and active imagination. The willingness to knowingly make a fool out of oneself suggests both self confidence and cleverness. By poking fun at himself he takes away the power of others to hurt him.

If you cannot see the difference, well…

[jab1]

*Originally posted by Scylla *
**

*Originally posted by jab1 *
I would not be surprised if Scylla changes his UserName to Sigmund Freud, seeing as how he apparently under the delusion that he’s a hot-shit psychoanalyst.

And by what professional psychiatric credentials do you presume to say that I’m suffering from a “delusion.”**

Did I not say, “apparently?” You, on the other hand, have been saying with certainty that PPM is delusional.

[Scylla]

You are both Schweinhundes.

[jab1]

Woof! Woof!

(Better a schweinhunde than a horse’s ass.)

[Larry_Mudd]

I love you guys.

[Stoid]

Very, very nice guy. But then, that’s no surprise.

Since I seem to have missed the whole asexual/gay thing I decided to email him. (Then Guin posted the direct link, which I read. It looks like all that was stuff he went through and got through, not anything he’s burdened with today)

His response was thoughtful, and came across as very cool, very secure.

A couple of pertinent quotes:

• Direct from Never-never Land: * **
  "Though my own expression is maybe more mixed boy, girl, and child than others I’ve known (hence my use of the term asexual), I’m only interested in a female partner. "

“Perhaps it is sad that with all the preachers around, that God should have to call out the village idiot to provide such a simple message (grin). But the message is going out just the same. I think that by showing that God’s love gives one the confidence to defy the other “gods” we’ve set up in society (like sexual stereotypes), I have in some way added credibility to the message.”

“As you probably know on the inside, you needn’t defend me. The beauty of the internet is that despite all the talk, positive or negative, people eventually make their way to the site in question and read for themselves, and ultimately are responsible for the conclusions and judgments they draw.”
**

I say again: whatever else, he comes across as healthier, happier, and more together than 8 out of 10 people I meet anywhere.

stoid

[Stoid]

*Originally posted by Diane *
**

I believe you were actually trying to create a combo Stoid/Zette persona. Can you imagine? Look out world!

Now I’m scared! :eek: **

As well you might be!

[Jackmannii]

Hey! It’s pixie dust, not itching powder!!
One piece of advice for PP tho - dump Tinkerbell and take up with this broad. It’s a match made in heaven.

And maybe Michael Jackson will sing at your wedding.

[Guinastasia]

Agreed, Stoid. And even if he’s not-he’s not out hurting anyone. He’s not out terrorizing the world, or anything. He’s not molesting anyone.

But just a nitpick-no representation I’ve seen of Peter Pan features that disgusting mushroom hairdo.

[Scylla]

So based on the fact that Peter Pan was able to email at least two coherent paragraphs, not only are Dr. Stoid and Professor Guinastasia prepared to pronounce him sane and adjusted, but better adjusted than 8-10 people they’ve met. Furthermore this is even more remarkable in that they haven’t even met the guy, but I guess from those two paragraphs they now completely understand him.

This from Guin who was just finishing berating me for daring to have a dissenting opinion based on the flimsy evidence of having actually read every one of his pages and his full bio.

I guess it’s ok to have a flimsy opinion if it’s the right flimsy opinion.

Hypocritical morons.

[Guinastasia]

I didn’t say he was sane-I simply said I don’t see how we can decide whether or not he’s a raging loon just from viewing the guy’s WEBPAGE for crissakes.

He SEEMS harmless. That’s all.

You, on the other hand, give a complete psychological review based on reading the guy’s fucking website.

[Larry_Mudd]

In case anyone thinks it’s “nutty” to express “God’s love” by cultivating an epicene, childlike persona, here are a couple quotes from the New Testament to support the position that Mr. Constan is “on message.”

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. -Galatians 3:28

And he said: “I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.” -Matthew 18:3-4

Peter Pan boy sez: “It is through the cracks in our humanity that the light within often shines brightest.”

You might as well say “Through the crackpots in our society…” It’s a good observation, either way.

[Stoid]

*Originally posted by Larry Mudd *
**You might as well say “Through the crackpots in our society…” It’s a good observation, either way. **

I kinda like that.

[Purd_Werfect]

I don’t know anything about this guy beyond what’s on his webpage, but of all the possible diagnosis made here, all of them could easily apply to someone dressed in standard business garb.

From what I’ve seen, he contends, or possibly contends with: [ul]
[li]Gender confusion[/li][li]Disdain for reality[/li][li]Depression[/li][li]A loss of spouse through divorce[/li][li]A loss of a key family member due to suicide[/li][li]A possible rejection of responsibility[/li][li]A desire to not face death[/li][li]A strong feeling of kinship with an archetype[/li][li]An unrepaired rift with his father[/li][li]Some contradiction or confusion in the ideas that he holds, most specifically towards religion[/li][li]A degree of proseltyzing based on a religious epiphany, which to those not experiencing that epiphany, looks less than genuine or valid[/li][/ul]
So from what I can see, the only difference between this guy and a great many people from all walks of life is the clothing that he chooses to wear, and the way he chooses to contend with his issues. Of the potential issues listed above, I’ve experienced a great many of them to some degree in my own life, as have no doubt many others here.

From what little I know of him, he doesn’t represent actual harm to anyone, so how could he be classed as “nuttier than a fruitcake”? Sure, to my way of thinking, he has an odd appearance, but so do people who pierce their eyebrows, or people who (insert subculture mode of dress here). But that’s my own constraints I see. Normality is incredibly loose in definition. He dresses in a way I wouldn’t have the balls to if I wanted to, but I’m in no position to state that I’m somehow more sane than he is. I’ve yet to meet the person who doesn’t carry around some bizzarre stuff in their head.

[Lizard]

*Originally posted by Larry Mudd *
**In case anyone thinks it’s “nutty” to express “God’s love” by cultivating an epicene, childlike persona, here are a couple quotes from the New Testament to support the position that Mr. Constan is “on message.”

And he said: “I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.” -Matthew 18:3-4

**

Hmm. So I guess the Diaper Pail Society of North America is gettin’ really close to God then?

[Barking_Spider]

Whats wrong with Peter Pan?

Well, If I hit you in the peter with a pan, you’d fly too!