So glad they named Rudy. Just hope they lay some plastic on the floor so that his dripping hair dye doesn’t stain. A little disappointed that Graham wasn’t indicted but I trust this DA is only indicting that which she thinks she can convict, perhaps Graham’s role was minimal. As for the unknowns on the list, sucks to be them. Are they little guys who got starstruck and let themselves be pawns in this crooked game?
I heard on NPR this morning that some law professor was saying that this may be moved to Federal Jurisdiction. That the Defendants would likely file motions to do just that. Anybody else saying that?
The MAGA went down to Georgia, he was lookin’ for a vote to steal
He was in a bind 'cause he was way behind
And he was willin’ to make a deal
When he came across this young man in an office writin’ notes
And Trump jumped up on a hickory stump
And said, “boy, you find me some votes”
Why not? If a judge says he can’t say (or do) something and he says (or does) it, seems like it should be cut and dried. Lock him up.
Were you foreshadowing this about a hundred posts ago? 'Cause it worked.
Please confirm for me, even if Trump is imprisoned he could still be president? Is that correct?
Is it law, or is it tradition that says he gets Secret Service Protection while in jail?
And does the RICO aspect make this federal?
No rule against it. And Eugene Debs is the precedent for a campaign from prison.
That said, if Trump the convicted felon gets elected to be President while serving time, it’s a sign the country is pretty much over.
Wiki has:
Secret Service protection
From 1965 to 1996, former presidents were entitled to lifetime Secret Service protection, for themselves, spouses, and children under 16. A 1994 statute, Pub. L. 103–329, limited post-presidential protection to ten years for presidents inaugurated after January 1, 1997.[8] Under this statute, Bill Clinton would still be entitled to lifetime protection, and all subsequent presidents would have been entitled to ten years of protection.[9] On January 10, 2013, President Barack Obama signed the Former Presidents Protection Act of 2012, reinstating lifetime Secret Service protection for his predecessor George W. Bush, himself, and all subsequent presidents.[10]
Richard Nixon relinquished his Secret Service protection in 1985, the only president to do so.[11]
The charges were for a violation of the Georgia RICO law. My understanding is that that would not, necessarily, make it federal.
Gift link. A tidy summary of all the people indicted, who they are, and what they’re charged with. There seems to be a selection of false electors, several people who harassed Ruby Freeman and her daughter, the Coffee County bozos, and the bigger election shenanigans perpetrators.
The reason I’m asking is that one of my coworkers (we’re in Canada) was saying that this makes it federal. However that pans out would obviously have an impact on whether or not he could pardon himself if elected.
that is when the earworm started. then i realized it was the ides of august. i’m working on dance moves.
trump has already lost a move to federal court thing in i believe ny.
Sort of.
Some were involved in the fake electors scheme, some in a scheme to illegally access voting machines in a rural county, and some were involved in a scheme to trick election worker Ruby Freeman into confessing, or something like that. I think the last incident was previously unreported so I’m not sure of the details. The “Blacks For Trump” guy was one of the ones indicted in that scheme.
They were talking about that on CNN last night. A couple of thoughts. First, removal of criminal cases is exceedingly rare. So rare, in fact, that despite going to law school, studying for the bar, and practicing criminal law in state and federal courts for a number of years, I had never even heard of such of thing. When they mentioned in after the NY indictment I had to look it up. And, yes, it can be done. It’s 28 USC 1455, if anyone’s interested.
However, I don’t see these charges providing a basis for removal to federal court. The grounds for granting such a motion are limited (and apparently they look like they were designed to protect individuals from racist state prosecutions)
Any of the following civil actions or criminal prosecutions, commenced in a State court may be removed by the defendant to the district court of the United States for the district and division embracing the place wherein it is pending:
(1)
Against any person who is denied or cannot enforce in the courts of such State a right under any law providing for the equal civil rights of citizens of the United States, or of all persons within the jurisdiction thereof;
(2)
For any act under color of authority derived from any law providing for equal rights, or for refusing to do any act on the ground that it would be inconsistent with such law.
ETA: Here’s a federal district court decision that describes how this statute is applied. It shouldn’t apply to Trump’s case. I guess we’ll find out
Georgia’s RICO law is apparently notoriously expansive, compared to similar laws in other states or the federal level
Turns out Trump is innocent. We’ll see a report in [less than] two weeks.
“A Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference at 11:00 A.M. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey. Based on the results of this CONCLUSIVE Report, all charges should be dropped against me & others - There will be a complete EXONERATION! They never went after those that Rigged the Election. They only went after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!” Trump wrote on the social network Truth Social.
Of course it’s complete bullshit. And, as many have pointed out repeatedly here and elsewhere, even if it was all true, he doesn’t get to commit crimes as a result. As Willis said last night, Georgia has a procedure to challenge election problems. Forming a criminal enterprise isn’t one of them.
“Georgia, like every state, has laws that allow those who believe that results of the election are wrong, whether because of intentional wrongdoing or unintentional error to challenge those results in state courts,” Willis said.
Right after Trump’s infrastructure bill is submitted to Congress
The ides of August were the 13th.