Oh, don’t you all know the astronomers and satellite companies are all controlled by the Government, and it’s all just a cover-up? Never mind about the sun and constellations and stuff you can see for yourself.
Your quite right. You cannot dismiss science I’m not attempting to do that I am putting forth an idea. and saying the world is not flat. I don’t expect it will be accepted just looked at in a critical manner and say what is wrong with it the everyone must be right theory of thruth by consensis I cannot apply as a valid argument independant core crust movement is not new I just applied it on a global scale.
The conspiracy theory I have thought about. But makes no sense other than to prevent premature migration from Europe and America Might be a good time to invest in realestate in North Africa and Canada 
The two major white contenients so to speak without sounding racist could be in serious trouble If I am correct. Western US hotter Europe colder keep an eye on it or just say what a bone head that N8N is. Not an end world scenario but a major migration of peoples. Lets hope the Arabs, Mexicans and Russians welcome us with open arms.
So can we expect Gaia to take up pole dancing.
There’s a really huge jet that just flew overhead. It was really loud.
Hear any rocks falling surf maybe
Well, adding a water-park IS twice the fun. 
Dyson’s Spheres take time to build. And there’s a Depression on ya know. 
N8, it is a good theory.
The biggest argument I’ve heard (other than it’s never been proven before), is that the astronomers would have noticed earlier. However, if the entire universe were actually like a big 360 degree lampshade that rotates around with the galaxies and all, they wouldn’t have noticed. One would have to be on the ‘outside’ to be able to see that. :dubious:
Here is what I can’t explain. The geologic record shows magnetic pole reversal occurring at an irregular rate for a very long time. Can you explain to me why this is, if the poles are not actually reversing?
That’s only if you assume that the entire universe is shifting and rotating at a rate to exactly match the earth’s ‘outer crust rotation’, barring that shift in constellation position that happens each year, of course.
It’s an interesting thought experiment but it simply does not fit the available data.
The poles do reverse but that does not stop the crust displacement over the magma layer. Its just a reversal of polarity. North becomes south but no actual movement takes place.
What does not fit the data is spherical icecap centered over greenland there cannot possibly be an ice cap down to South Carolina and only to france on the other side. Its like having a cold spot on the equator its roughly the same temperature all around the equator. As you go north yes it gets cooler but the same lattitudes get the same temperature because of the angle to the sun. How can the western Arctic Ocean be ice free and Europe and America under an ice cap>
This is misinformed. Land mass, ocean, and ocean currents all play a large role in local temperature. The temperature around the arctic and antarctic regions would only be uniform if the landmass was uniform.
That is correct but the ice caps only left evidence on land and the land masses temperatures will be “ROUGHLY” the same. When its winter in Europe it will be winter in North America. We Can’t have an ice age in Carolina and Summer in Siberia At the same time with no polar displacement unless a God did this one too.
You do know that New York is on the same latitude as Madrid, right?
Europe is a lot warmer than North America, for the same latitude. Due to the Earth’s rotation, we have prevailing winds and currents that bring warm air and water to the eastern part of the Atlantic Ocean, while the western part gets the opposite. And this is also why we have the wet warm rainy Pacific Northwest Coast, where I live. If the Earth was rotating the other way, Seattle would be a lot colder and drier.
As for how we know the Earth’s crust isn’t slipping over the mantle, so that London is moving north, and Los Angeles is moving south, well, we’d notice the sun rising and setting in different places.
You can notice this yourself. Get on a boat. Take careful measurements of where the sun rises and sets, and the location of the sun at noon. Now travel 40 miles north or south. Take careful measurements again. You’ll see sunrise, sunset and noon occur at different places.
For example, I grew up in Fairbanks Alaska. This is below the Arctic Circle, so we didn’t have true 24 sunlight in the summer. However, it’s damn close, and so in the summer months the sun dips below the horizon, and we have a short dusk, and then it starts coming back over the horizon, going from dusk to dawn with no true night. And in midwinter, the sun always peeks over the horizon. We have a very long dawn, a very short day with the sun very low on the horizon, and then a very long dusk, and then a very very long night.
Note that this is the reason it’s really cold in Alaska in the winter, but warm in the summer. It’s cold in winter because we get very little sunlight, and what sunlight we get is at an oblique angle. It’s warm in the summer because we get a lot of sunlight, and the sun is at a more direct angle.
If Fairbanks Alaska was traveling south at 40 miles/year, we’d notice that there were shorter days and longer nights in summer, and longer days and shorter nights in winter. Or, if Fairbanks were traveling north, we’d soon notice that we were above the Arctic circle, and we’d get true midnight sun in the summer, and true lack of day during the winter.
It’s true that Fairbanks is experiencing milder winters in the last decade. So we can consider the hypothesis that the reason we’re getting warmer winters is because Fairbanks (along with the rest of North America) has traveled south in the past few years.
However, the reason moving south would cause warmer winters is because we’d be getting more sunlight. And this has not happened. One interesting thing about living in Fairbanks that I don’t get now that I live here in the Seattle area, is that during the weather reports, the radio guys would always also report on the amount of daylight. Like, “Sunrise at 9:23 and sunset at 2:37 today, for 5 hours and 14 minutes of daylight, a loss of 7 minutes over yesterday.”
Trust me, if we were getting more sunlight in winter in Fairbanks, people would notice. And you can check this yourself. All you need is to drive up north to the purported arctic circle and sit on a vantage point on the summer solstice, and see if the sun sets on that day. If the sun sets on that day, you’ll know that the arctic circle is in a different place, and that means the continents have drifted.
Alternatively, you could go to the tropic of cancer (you’d have to cross over into Mexico) and measure the sun’s position at noon on the summer solstice. If the sun isn’t directly overhead at noon on the summer solstice at the official demarcation of the tropic of cancer, then you’ll know that the spot you’re on has moved either north or south.
However, if you do these experiments, you’ll find that the positions have NOT moved. The sun will be in the expected place. This means that the Earth’s crust hasn’t been sliding over the mantle and the continents are in the same position relative to the geographic north pole that they’ve always been, plus or minus an inch or two because the continents really are measurably drifting, just at a rate of inches per year rather than miles.
Note that you could also drive to the purported arctic circle on the winter solstice, and see if the sun rises above the horizon. If the sun rises above the horizon, you’ll know that the place you’re in has drifted south.
However, that won’t happen, the sun will refuse to rise above the horizon on that day, and your theory will be disconfirmed.
“Roughly the same” is not “the same”. We’re not talking about extreme differences in temperature here, uneven spread of landmass will result in an uneven temp distribution which will result in an uneven ice cap. This is what we have, you don’t need to explain it with a drifting crust. Anyway, as pointed out up thread, if the crust was moving, then the position of the stars including the sun would appear to be moving, but they aren’t.
as he pointed out alsaka is experiencing warmer weather we here in western canada are as well. The east coast and great britian are experiencing colder weather. Not global warming but a climate change the rate of movement is 40km/year and accerlerating.
Its like the consern over the melting icecaps and oceans rising flodding the coast… Its nonsense. The icecap like an iceberg is already 90% under water if it melts the sea level will actually drop.
A simple experiment you can do at home will prove this fact. Fill a glass of water half way, then fill the rest of it with ice. Fill the glass to the brimwater then allow all the ice to melt. The water level goes down. The reason? The amount of water displaced by the ice is actually greater than the amount of water after the ice melts. The amount of ice at both poles is enormous, displacing ocean water. Even if all the land ice melted as well, the runoff would return the ocean to the same level it was before both ice caps melted. Simple logic, simply proven, but you won’t find these facts anywhere because the Libs want your money. Your glass will not over flow! Ice water expands when frozen thats why pipes burst and not collapse.
Stars not moving? Just tell that to an astrolager they added a Thirteenth sign didn’t they? SOmthing moved and its not the stars!
Science is starting to become like a religion the the masses believe in is infalable. Globe is warming seas rising sounds like a biblical catastrophy. We are uniing out of resoueces and water?? There are no more or less resources on the planet than there ever was the planet is a closed system. The fresh water is still there is there any less evaporation than there was? No the rain is just falling in defferent places than it did before. Thats why we have all these ancient cultures that seemed to have disappeared. The earth is shifting every few thousand years and they had to move to go where the climate could support them.
In another way to confirm or disconfirm your theory without driving anywhere, you could go outside on a clear night. Face north. Find Polaris. Is Polaris to your north, at the same position it’s always been? By “always been”, I really mean “for the last thousand years or so” of course, since the pole wobbles a bit and 14,000 years ago Vega was the pole star.
Polaris’s apparent height above the horizon depends on how far north you are. At the geographic North Pole, Polaris will appear directly at the zenith. As you move south, Polaris gets lower and lower on the horizon, until eventually at the equator you can’t see it anymore.
So, find Polaris, and measure how high in the sky it appears. If your city is drifting southwards (or northwards), you’d see over the years the height of Polaris would change. Polaris would drift higher if you’re drifting north, and lower if you’re drifting south. If the position of Polaris doesn’t change over the years, then that proves that you aren’t drifting either north or south, although you could be drifting due east or due west.
The abridged version has already been posted by the Insane Clown Posse.
OK, please stop peddling nonsense. If you fill a cup with ice, then pour in water to the brim such that you have ice floating higher than the brim of the cup, then allow the ice to melt, the water will still be exactly level with the edge of the cup, unless your ice contains pockets of air.
It is certainly true that melting sea ice won’t cause sea levels to rise, because ice displaces exactly the same amount of water once it melts.
However, there are also extensive ice caps on Greenland and Antarctica. These continental ice caps aren’t floating on water. If these ice caps melt, then the water will pour off the continents into the oceans and raise the sea level. Or, if continental glaciers increase in size, that ice is created from snow, which is created from clouds, which are created from water evaporating from the oceans.
Growing or shrinking oceanic ice caps have no effect on sea levels. Growing or shrinking continental ice caps do.
And I notice that you had no comment on whether people at the supposed arctic circle are noticing whether the sun is rising or setting earlier or later than they would expect. Dude, I’ve lived near the arctic circle, and was just back to Fairbanks a few months ago. The sunrises and sunsets were at exactly the same times as they were when I moved there 40 years ago, when according to you Fairbanks would be 240 miles south, or about where Anchorage would have been when I was a child. However, Fairbanks has the same pattern of sunrise and sunset, and has not changed to have the pattern Anchorage had 40 years ago. Therefore, the position of Fairbanks has not changed in the past 40 years.