What if spacetime were a kind of fluid?

Great Debates
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Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. It is displaced by the particles of matter which exist in it and move through it.

‘Alert Einstein’s ‘First Paper’’

“The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the elastic forces which cause [its] propagation, and inversely proportional to the mass of the aether moved by these forces.”

Einstein is referring to the state of displacement of the aether.

The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the elastic forces which cause its propagation, and inversely proportional to the mass of the aether displaced by these forces.

‘Offset between dark matter and ordinary matter: evidence from a sample of 38 lensing clusters of galaxies’

“Our data strongly support the idea that the gravitational potential in clusters is mainly due to a non-baryonic fluid, and any exotic field in gravitational theory must resemble that of CDM fields very closely.”

The offset is due to the galaxy clusters moving through the aether. The analogy is a submarine moving through the water. You are under water. Two miles away from you are many lights. Moving between you and the lights one mile away is a submarine. The submarine displaces the water. The state of displacement of the water causes the center of the lensing of the light propagating through the water to be offset from the center of the submarine itself. The offset between the center of the lensing of the light propagating through the water displaced by the submarine and the center of the submarine itself is going to remain the same as the submarine moves through the water. The submarine continually displaces different regions of the water. The state of the water connected to and neighboring the submarine remains the same as the submarine moves through the water even though it is not the same water the submarine continually displaces. This is what is occurring as the galaxy clusters move through and displace the aether.

‘The Milky Way’s dark matter halo appears to be lopsided’

“The emerging picture of the asymmetric dark matter halo is supported by the \Lambda CDM halos formed in the cosmological N-body simulation.”

The Milky Way’s ‘dark matter halo’ is lopsided due to the matter in the Milky Way moving through and displacing the aether.

In the attached image, the which way information of the photons detected at Dac1, Dac2, Dbc1 and Dbc2 will be known and a combination of them will allow for the interference patterns at D0 to be discerned. The experiment I propose, if the results are as I predict, refutes the notion of ‘quantum eraser’.

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So I have a box and I seal it up - the aether inside the box is now separated from the rest of the aether outside the box. How does that work?

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Gravity would be a function of volume, not mass. An Earth-sized balloon would have a gravity the same as Earth.

I’m pretty sure it would act differently (with respect to direction) for non-spherical bodies too.

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Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Including the space in a proton unoccupied by the quarks.

You can’t seal it up.

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You have our gaseous Jupiter and a lead Jupiter. The lead Jupiter contains more particles of matter then our gaseous Jupiter. The lead Jupiter contains less aether than our gaseous Jupiter. The lead Jupiter displaces more aether than our gaseous Jupiter. There is more displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the lead Jupiter than our gaseous Jupiter. There is more gravitational force exerted toward the lead Jupiter than our gaseous Jupiter.

The shape of the body does affect the gravity associated with the body.

“The major characteristic of the Moon’s gravitational field is the presence of mascons, which are large positive gravity anomalies associated with some of the giant impact basins.”

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Ah, I see. So how does the inverse square law work? How does gravity have such long range effects at all?

Sure it does, but not the same way as the shape of a body is affected by forces from pressure.

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When you throw a stone into the ocean where does the displacement of the water by the stone stop?

What is referred to geometrically as curved spacetime physically exists in nature as the state of displacement of the aether.

The state of displacement of the aether is gravity.

Stating the displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity is a simplified explanation. That’s why when I say the state of displacement of the aether is gravity I always italicize the is.

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There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether.

The Milky Way’s halo has mass.

The Milky Way’s halo is the state of displacement of the aether.

The Milky Way’s halo is curved spacetime.

What is referred to geometrically as the curvature of spacetime physically exists in nature as the state of displacement of the aether.

The state of displacement of the aether is gravity.

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I KNEW that the LHC experiments were a terrible idea! Some feared it would generate black holes that would swallow the earth. What it generated was in fact something far far worse: see OP.

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“The word ‘ether’ has extremely negative connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association with opposition to relativity. This is unfortunate because, stripped of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic symmetry. […] It turns out that such matter exists. About the time relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian emptiness. It is filled with ‘stuff’ that is normally transparent but can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this because it is taboo.” - Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics, endowed chair in physics, Stanford University

“any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous “energetic contact” with a hidden medium … If a hidden sub-quantum medium is assumed, knowledge of its nature would seem desirable. It certainly is of quite complex character. It could not serve as a universal reference medium, as this would be contrary to relativity theory.” - Louis de Broglie, Nobel Laureate in Physics

“According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time intervals in the physical sense.” - Albert Einstein, Nobel Laureate in Physics

The relativistic ether referred to by Laughlin is the hidden sub-quantum medium referred to by de Broglie is the ether which propagates light referred to by Einstein.

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It spreads out until it is smaller than the particle size of the medium, then it’s impossible to distinguish from noise.

So… how do we design an experiment to distinguish aether from nothing?

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There is the following evidence of aether.

‘Offset between dark matter and ordinary matter: evidence from a sample of 38 lensing clusters of galaxies’

“Our data strongly support the idea that the gravitational potential in clusters is mainly due to a non-baryonic fluid, and any exotic field in gravitational theory must resemble that of CDM fields very closely.”

The offset is due to the galaxy clusters moving through the aether. The analogy is a submarine moving through the water. You are under water. Two miles away from you are many lights. Moving between you and the lights one mile away is a submarine. The submarine displaces the water. The state of displacement of the water causes the center of the lensing of the light propagating through the water to be offset from the center of the submarine itself. The offset between the center of the lensing of the light propagating through the water displaced by the submarine and the center of the submarine itself is going to remain the same as the submarine moves through the water. The submarine continually displaces different regions of the water. The state of the water connected to and neighboring the submarine remains the same as the submarine moves through the water even though it is not the same water the submarine continually displaces. This is what is occurring as the galaxy clusters move through and displace the aether.

‘The Milky Way’s dark matter halo appears to be lopsided’

“The emerging picture of the asymmetric dark matter halo is supported by the \Lambda CDM halos formed in the cosmological N-body simulation.”

The Milky Way’s ‘dark matter halo’ is lopsided due to the matter in the Milky Way moving through and displacing the aether.

There is evidence of the aether every time a double slit experiment is performed; it’s what waves.

The following is a modified so-called ‘delayed choice quantum eraser’ experiment. If the results of the experiment are as I predict it is evidence nothing is delayed and nothing is erased.

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Does it? (the graped part) - I don’t think it does.

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It does.

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Is it just me, or does anybody else really want to play Space 1889?

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Water ‘lenses’ light around a submarine? Water is nearly incompressible - what effect are you describing here?

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The cite you quoted does not bear out your claim. Mass concentrations are – concentrations of mass. (Words actually mean things!) They are changes in density, places where there is more mass per cubic meter. The presence of mass is what produces gravity.

You seem confused about very basic scientific concepts.

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Can we use GURPS? The published rules set has…difficulties.

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Yes! I adore the ideas and the setting. The system sucks and ship combat is unbelievably math intensive.

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“The word ‘ether’ has extremely negative connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association with opposition to relativity. This is unfortunate because, stripped of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic symmetry. [..] It turns out that such matter exists. About the time relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian emptiness. It is filled with ‘stuff’ that is normally transparent but can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this because it is taboo.” - Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics, endowed chair in physics, Stanford University

Matter, fluids, solids, a piece of window glass and ‘stuff’ have mass and so does the aether.