What if spacetime were a kind of fluid?

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OP, are you asking what the implications would be IF spacetime were a superfluid? Because it sure seems like you are insisting that spacetime IS a superfluid.

“The lead Jupiter displaces more aether than our gaseous Jupiter.”

How do you know this? Has this ever been confirmed experimentally?

What do you mean by “displaced aether pushing back” and “exerting inward pressure?” How does “pressure” relate to gravitational attraction?

It sounds like word salad at this point. You seem to be spewing terms without defining them. You need to put this all together in introductory terms. Pretend you’re writing chapter one of a textbook. As far as most of us can tell, you haven’t got a leg to stand on, and are obfuscating rather than enlightening.

There’s no such thing as ‘empty’ space. The image you linked to is believed to be the bow shock of the solar wind (made of particles) from a star interacting with the interstellar medium (which is made of particles).

Image in context:

If you read all of my posts in context you would see I am attempting to have a conversation with those who make even a modest attempt at discussing the topic.

If you paid attention to the complete thread you would realize my repetitive post are only to those making no attempt to discuss the topic.

If you actually want to understand the thread as a whole maybe you should read it again from the beginning.

The aether is, or behaves similar to, a supersolid.

Aether is displaced by the particles of matter which exist in it and move through it.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment it is the aether which waves.

As someone with a keen interest in science, I often get involved in scientific discussions, sometimes quite extensively, and sometimes I learn a lot, too. You’ll notice that I’m not involved in this one. I don’t see what either the point or the question in the OP is supposed to be, and I also see a lot of pseudo-scientific drivel repeated over and over and some clear evidence of your lack of scientific comprehension. So my two cents worth is that it doesn’t seem to me that you’re actually trying to “have a conversation” at all. I honestly have no idea what you’re trying to do.

If you want to understand what occurs physically in nature then understand the following. If you don’t then don’t.

Aether has mass and is physically displaced by the particles of matter which exist in it and move through.

There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

The Milky Way’s halo is the state of displacement of the aether.

The Milky Way’s halo is curved spacetime.

What is referred to geometrically as curved spacetime physically exists in nature as the state of displacement of the aether.

The state of displacement of the aether is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

What ripples when galaxy clusters collide is what waves in a double slit experiment; the aether.

Einstein’s gravitational wave is de Broglie’s wave of wave-particle duality; both are aether displacement waves.

What relates general relativity and quantum mechanics is the aether displaced by matter.

There are fewer particles of matter in interstellar space than in any vacuum artificially created on Earth. There are to few particles of matter in interstellar space to wave by themselves.

The particles of matter exist in the aether. The aether has mass.

The interstellar medium is not the particles which exist in interstellar space. The interstellar medium is the aether which the particles exist in. It is the aether which waves as it is displaced by the stars and galaxies which move through it.

You can regurgitate conventional wisdom all you want on this thread. Until you understand aether has mass and is physically displaced by the particles of matter which move through it and displace it you will not correctly understand what occurs physically in nature.

Except that it violates the laws of momentum, exhibits no friction, and is not experimentally observable.

Without interacting with it.

Curved time-space may be gravity. Matter curves time-space. Matter causes gravity. The curve is always “toward” matter. There is no “push” in gravity, only “pull.”

The idea of “push gravity” is bunkum, and often pops up on the “woo” forums of The Bad Astronomer. Serious cosmologists don’t accept it.

“Push gravity” is trivially exploded by noting that things don’t weigh less in the “shadow” of the moon.

Make up your mind.

Evidence?

Evidence?

If you could make any of this intelligible – and if there were any evidence in favor of it – it would be a Nobel Prize winning revolution in science. At present, all we have is your word for it…and your words don’t seem to add up coherently.

By the way, just curious, what does “mpc755” refer to?

If gravity is a pull then how does the Moon physically pull on the ocean water causing it to rise? Where’s the rope?

Gravity is not a pull.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

The state of displacement of the aether is gravity.

“a “field” in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position”

A ‘field’ in physics is space filled with aether and the strength of the field is the displacement of the aether from its relativistic rest position.

Each of the plates in the Casimir effect displace the aether. The displaced aether which exists between the plates is pushing back toward each of the plates which causes the force associated with the aether displaced by each of the plates which exists between the plates to offset. This aether is more at relative rest than the aether which is displaced by the plates which encompasses the plates. The reduced force associated with the aether which exists between the plates along with the displaced aether which encompasses the plates which is pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the plates causes the plates to be forced together.

What occurs physically in nature in the Casimir effect is the same phenomenon as gravity.

There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Aether has mass and physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

The aether which exists between the Earth and the Moon is displaced by both the Earth and the Moon and is pushing back toward the Earth and toward the Moon. This displaced aether offsets and cancels each other out to some degree. This aether is more at relativistic rest than the displaced aether which encompasses the Earth and the Moon.

The aether which encompasses the Earth and the Moon is able to exert more pressure on the solid matter Earth than it can the liquid oceans. This, along with the molecular bonds associated with the solid matter the Earth consists of, causes the solid matter Earth to be pushed closer to the Moon than the ocean water opposite the Moon. This causes the ocean to ‘rise’ opposite the Moon. The aether between the Earth and Moon exerts less pressure on the ocean water than it can the solid matter Earth. This, along with the the molecular bonds associated with the solid matter the Earth consists of, causes the ocean to rise between the Earth and Moon.

My best guess is it’s the name of a computer program – Multiphasic Pseudo-scientific Conversation, version 7.55 – that creates pseudo-scientific jargon in the manner of computer poetry, and then repeats snippets of it randomly while using primitive AI to appear to respond to replies. It’s either a kind of Turing Test or an elaborate prank.

Not in dispute. The bowshock, however is going to be more dense because it’s a region where the two sparse collections of particles collide and pile up.

I think you’re wrong about that. I don’t believe gas laws just stop working at low concentrations.

Where’s the ‘rope’ for magnetic or electrostatic forces? Or are those a push too (my fridge magnet isn’t pulling the metal of the fridge, it’s being pushed by everything that isn’t a fridge?)

Neither of those have anything at all to do with your weird claims about submarines and water.

The first video is a demonstration of internal reflection (same phenomenon that makes fibre optics work - light bounces off the internal surfaces of a medium when the angle of incidence is shallow.

The second video is a demonstration of refraction at interfaces between media of differing refractive indices - except unlike the normal experiments of this kind (where the boundary is abrupt and the light is refracted abruptly at an angle, this experiment has a gradient of refractive indices, so the light is refracted on what appears as a curved path.

I believe what BrainGlutton meant was: a submarine changes the state of light propagating through the water because it is an opaque object.

Our you could understand aether has mass and is what waves in a double slit experiment.

How much mass does your aether have? If you claim this to be a fact, then the aspects of aether should be available to you.

Wow. Okay, guys, the bar is open. I’ll have a shot of whatever he isn’t having.

If you have a football sized stadium with two particles of matter contained in its volume and you think that can wave then that is your choice.

It is now known there is mass which fills the ‘void’ of space. It is that mass which the particles of matter exist in. It is the mass which fills space which waves.