Wow, a lot of free-floating anti-Christian invective there, including name calling (“fundies”). Ownership?
I don’t think you’d see any disagreement if it weren’t for the case that Michael was sleeping with another woman within a year or two after Terri collapsed. He pissed away and sanctity in the marriage at that point and shouldn’t have had control over Terri’s future given his obvious conflict of interest.
A mistress and two children by her, all while still married to Terri. Can you see why the Schindlers are just a bit angry with his professions of loyalty to Terri?
Hey, my husband is Catholic lite [episcopalian, or as he puts it scots heretic], and I was raised western NY first baptist. Deal with it. As I am getting fed up with people dragging the bible out to validate anything they want to prove, or use to block some action they don’t approve of, I wouldn’t mind seeing some basic honesty in people and have them admit that they want to restrict me [or anybody else in the world] from doing something they want to do but feel they shouldnt do. In this case the damned parents just need to freaking let go already. It isnt a question of morality at this point, but one of total denial on their part. There isnt anything but a freaking brain stem. Let her GO. Get out of Michael’s face about things. Thye gave her up to Michaels care, they can pack sand as he has the right to call the shots here according to their precious concept of marriage contract [he gave her daughter to him, on behalf of he and his wife, now they need to back the hell off and let hubby deal with the wife. She isnt daddy’s little girl any more.]
Well, how soon was she diagnosed as in a PVS? I know I dont want mrAru hanging around mourning me if I were PVS.
Can I see a cite for “within a year or two”? Because I don’t think it was THAT quick. For some reason I’d thought it was 5-7 years after Terri’s collapse.
According to court testimony, the Schindlers encouraged him to date other people once her prognosis became clear.
It was about five years after the incident before he started dating his current companion.
Really? You know that as a fact? Interesting. And how is it that you know the actual marriage vows that Terri and Michael took? And what Mr. Schindler said and did? And could you quote your source as to what the Schindler’s “precious concept of marriage contract” is? Thanks.
Done.
I’d be very interested to see that testimony.
I don’t see a conflict of interest. In fact, the easy way out for him would have been to divorce Terri and marry the woman who is the mother of his children. He certainly hasn’t profitted by remaining married to her. To the contrary, he was offered money to release guardianship to the parents, but he turned it down.
I think he has been a most loyal husband in one of the most loving ways possible. I’ve been married almost twenty years myself. I would not want my husband to spend his life alone and without children while I remained in a PVS. Schiavo has been a remarkable husband that most wives would be proud of.
The sanctity of marriage goes far deeper than mere physical fidelity.
When I went to that thread, there were two links. One no longer works, the other is to a blog.
Agreed. Some marriages don’t have physical fidelity as a goal for marriage at all.
While I agree with you, the Democrats are not doing much to stop the rancid behavior of the right. I’ve lost hope, they have no balls.
If they were married legally, and I’ve never heard otherwise, then it doesn’t matter what vows they took. They signed a contract. Included in the contract is a default change to the next-of-kin status.
Wasn’t one of the current arguments of the Schindlers that Terri didn’t/doesn’t have the right-to-die due to her being Roman Catholic? And yet, her father was encouraging her husband to divorce her?
There is no logic involved, anymore. Just one more reason for me to write that living will.
You apparently do not understand the Catholic church’s positions on divorce and annulment.
Sure, but that’s a separate topic in and of itself.
Funny, I thought they were a bit angry after Michael didn’t give them half of Terri’s malpractice settlement.
As I suspected. If he were to divorce her, the parents and family could take care of her. I don’t think the father was suggesting that he sleep with other women while still married to Terri.
First, RE the OP title-
If she died, I think a lot of us on both sides of the issue would whisper “Thank God”.
Now to throw my poo in this debate-
If Terri had openly & publically expressed a desire to die under these conditions, rather than us just having her husband’s word,
OR if her family was in agreement with him & the only outside interference was by
Pro-Life Extremists (I consider myself a 95% Pro-Lifer),
AND if we had absolute scientific certitude that she would not suffer from the starvation-dehydration procedure (and is such certitude even possible?)-
then, I’d say “Go ahead, disconnect & may she pass on peacefully.”
BUT
AFAIK her husband’s word is all that we have RE her wishes, and his entering into a para-marriage sheds some questionability upon him,
her family is more than willing to take over care for her,
and I have yet to hear how they know she won’t suffer from the lack of nutrition,
therefore, for all the invective & politicization on both sides, I can’t fault the measures to keep her fed & watered.