STV = stupid televised? Sincere Trump version? Single ticket vote?
Remember, the Trump is cunning. He’ll save any valuable info until the time is right and not before.
See The Violence (inherent in the system).
Sorry.
Single Transferable Vote.
It’s the standard way well designed democracies vote. Sadly we’re still running the beta of v1.0 here.
Thanks. I figured it was well known, but couldn’t figure it out!
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Here is a related question:
If Trump does not drop out of the race, he will presumably be a criminal defendant in no fewer than three trials in Manhattan, Miami, and Atlanta.
All of these three trials could be underway simultaneously, and potentially during the heat of the presidential election campaign, either during the Republucan primary campaign, or the general election itself during the months of August, September, and October of 2024.
Criminal defendants have to be present during the entire trial, sitting at the defendant’s table.
How can one person (Donald Trump) be at three different places around the country (Manhattan, Miami, and Atlanta) at one time?
I spoke to “Captain Obvious” about this, and he confirmed that yes, Donald Trump can only be at one place at one time.
“Captain Obvious” has been promoted to Admiral by the way. LOL!
He earned it, so everybody give Admiral Obvious a round of applause. LOL!
What this means is if Donald Trump can only attend one trial, we have to assume that it will be the federal trial in Miami, which means the DOJ will have to signal to the prosecutors in Manhattan and Atlanta to drop their cases.
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IANAL but it seems much more likely that the 3 prosecutors will get together and agree on a calendar, and schedule their trials so they don’t overlap.
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I don’t think this is necessarily true. And even if true, the chances of the other prosecutors “having to drop their cases” because of this are non existent
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There is simply not enough time to have all of these trials seperately and consecutively before the general election in November of 2024.
The trial in Manhattan is set to begin in March of 2024, and nobody knows how long we will have to wait for the trials in Miami and Atlanta to begin, and there is no telling how long each trial will take.
When all of this is said and done, there will be no way that Donald Trump will have three different verdicts from three different trials on his record.
All of the parties involved will have to agree on just one of these three trials.
There is no other way.
What happens to these trials and their vedicts if Trump is elected president in 2024?
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It is NOT necessary to have all the trials before the election. You may have bought into the right-wing BS that Trump’s trials are all a political witch hunt to “get him”. They are not.
It’s my understanding that the defendant is NOT required to be in the courtroom at all times. You may have gotten this impression from watching TV shows.
All the parties involved will NOT have to agree on just one of three trials. You are completely misguided, and are basing your conclusion on incorrect premises.
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Regarding attending at trial, we discussed before. It sounded like you can’t just not show up on day one, but that Trump’s attorney’s can ask for him to be allowed to stay away from the entire trial, even including the verdict and sentencing. And a federal judge can grant that request. My guess is that the request will be be made and granted. Trump would have to show up at the prison, but that would probably be stayed pending appeals.
Rules in New York and Georgia may be different, but I’m sure they will try to accommodate Trump bring able to spend lots of time campaigning.
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Let me ask you a question that is NOT politically motivated:
What happens to these trials and verdicts if Trump is elected president in November of 2024?
If he is elected, he will be leaving office on January, 20th, 2029.
Do you think prosecutors will continue to pursue charges after January, 20th 2029?
My guess is no.
Warning issued for @Michael_Varn
- bumping a thread with an off-topic question. Additionally there are threads out there about his trials.
- The “Captain Obvious” & “Admiral Obvious” is really pushing things over the line.
- It appears you asked and answered your own question. So it looks like a deliberate hijack.
Repeating nonsense in your next post …
And then more of hijack.
P&E threads are not omnibus threads. Look for an appropriate thread for questions not on topic or start a new thread in future.
This warning comes on the heals of several minor incidents of late.
There are probably plenty of swing voters (no, I don’t have a cite) who’d prefer a GOP president but can’t stand Trump. So I’ve assumed for a while that many GOP leaders secretly hope Trump gets convicted of something (or dies) before the '24 cycle gets into full swing, because he’s a cinch to win the nomination otherwise but unelectable in the general (I know, I know).
Him voluntarily dropping out (however unlikely) adds a lot of variables to the equation. Every GOP candidate would have Trump’s shadow lurking. One who appears centrist and sane enough, but gets Trump’s explicit endorsement, might have enough juice to win over swing voters and still keep Trump’s base.
But my best guess is Trump pulling a Ross Perot and jumping back into the race right before the convention. Madness ensues, and the Dems win everything.
[/gives a jaunty little wave hello]
Don’t suppose you live in AZ, WI, MI, PA or GA?
If Trump drops out, a stronger GOP candidate gets the nomination, and wins. But some swing voters will balance out a vote for DeSantis or Scott with one for a Democratic house or senate candidate, so no GOP sweep.
As for Trump, I think he goes to prison for a couple years. The new president wouldn’t want what happened to Jerry Ford to happen to them, so no commutation unless Trump becomes extremely ill. Yes, I know, the nominee likely promised to pardon Trump. They will truthfully say that the pardon attorney recommended against it, and change their mind.
VA. Is VA purple enough to be interesting? Like me, it opted for Biden in ‘20 before opting for a Republican for Governor in ‘21 — and there’s a Democratic majority in the State Senate, sure as there’s a Republican majority in the House of Delegates.
I’m a split-ticket guy in a split-ticket state, is what I’m saying; tallying it up over the years, I’ve voted for more Republicans than Democrats — but I’m, well, gettable, and I figure the state may well be too.