What In The World Is Wrong With The UK? (Pedophilia and Child Abuse Over The Years)

The setting of targets is a notoriously bad way to assess performance in complex systems, especially when it is difficult to work out which response actually makes a positive change.

Lets see if I can illustrate this,

Imagine any child growing up in society, that child is subject to myriad influences which cannot necessarily be determined to be good or bad, that’s because of context, one action at a certain time is good, the same one at another time might be disastrous, and you can add in a lot of luck or complete chaos theory of you want to call it that way.

Some children,- maybe most - will grow up and be well balanced individuals, or perhaps be socially functional though not perfect. A few will not, they will fail at school, and become difficult - ending up in special measures attracting social worker intervention. Yet somehow many of those will still turn out fine - the social worker may take credit, but perhaps it was a simply inspiration at sport that did it, or maybe they suddenly became interested in gardening, or whatever. It could even be more nebulous than that.

The local social services will certainly report that their intervention had the desired effect and chalk one up to their targets, however its almost certain that they had nothing at all to so with it, and in any event they had no effective means whatsoever of influence or control. Any good department would find a way to divide this particular case into small parts and count it as several successes, whereas with a less successful outcome, we may find that suddenly this case did not meet the criteria for social intervention after all.

The tendency will be for organisations to game the system, they look at the things they can directly influence and control - threshold criteria are often used, and individual managers who can utilise this effectively find their careers on an upward trajectory.

You will find large numbers of management consultant nonsense that spout how to deploy ‘Key Performance Indicators’ but these are exclusively based upon management systems with simply and predictable loops with feedback loops for learning and evaluation.

The sorts of work that safeguarding agencies deal with simply cannot fall into such simplistic management models, the external and internal influences are not known, the outcomes unpredictable, so it is no real surprise that he officials in those agencies decide to interpret the rules for themselves in order to be evaluated by politicians as high performing.

Given the option of doing something effective but hard work without a predictable outcome, we find that these officials are lazy, and greedy - they seek the rewards whilst not delivering anything other than some charts and numbers that they have largely fabricated.

A public enquiry is needed, not just into the agencies or the staff, but in the way we set targets and interpret the so-called data that is deemed to be effectively measuring performance.

For these abused children and their parents, it will be very hard to remember which official they spoke to and what they were told, and very much harder to prove it.

I will give you some real world use of KPI in m own organisation by linking to a .pdf.

hat .pdf notes why KPI may not work, and then it goes on at length to assess achievements against them - the reality is that only in the very simplest targets can any real meaning be gleaned, such as the number os prison escapes, others such as ‘Measuring the Quality or Prison Life’ are very highly subjective, which means they can easily be gamed upwards.

You will think this has little to do with what went on in Rotherham, you could not be more wrong, its this culture of performance targets so that politicians can pretend they have control and doing something useful that has led to the abysmal failure of the safeguarding agencies there.

http://www.prisonreformtrust.org.uk/Portals/0/Documents/A%20Measure%20of%20Success%202004%20-%20KPIs.pdf

This is not light reading, but I do not expect my previous detractors to read it, preferring to remain ignorant and chanting rubbish from the sidelines. What I will say is that there are reasons why these agencies failed so miserably, and I would argue that the culture of kpi measurement in complex systems is a significant one

I think it’s everywhere and the places where you hear about these scandals are just the ones that have been able to uncover it from time to time. Hopefully society is cleaning up it’s act.

This is actually my line of business and your final sentence captures the problem very neatly.
Introduce any KPI with serious consequences and you run the risk (actually the* certainty*) of people gaming the system to meet it. That brings out a whole host of undesirably behaviors.
In education we have the ridiculous system of OFSTED inspections and SATS testing which drives teachers to spend all their time either getting ready for or recovering from, an inspection. Or teaching children to pass a test which may or may not have a benefit on their education. Ultimately though, attention and effort is diverted from the real task in hand.

In industry where I work it is possible to reduce systems to simplistic input/process/output definitions and ring fence both the KPI and the behaviours. The more of a human element you introduce the harder it becomes to control and the more prone it becomes to unforeseen, perverse incentives and behaviours.

I spend a lot of my time trying to educate managers about where KPI’s will work and where they will be detrimental. Unfortunately some people have the KPI hammer and see every situation as a nail.

If the upshot of a badly defined KPI is merely a downturn in production or increase of reject widgets…who cares? we can start again and try something else. If it means a situation such as we see in education or child protection? That is far more serious.

Eventually we’ll find out that the police were part of the sex ring and that’s why nothing was ever done about it.

You read it here first.

(As an aside I can’t fathom how one person can tell another person that they were sexually abused and just have it disregarded without investigation or thought. It’s even more baffling to me that a child could tell a police officer she was gang raped and the cop just disregard and move on. I can’t wrap my head around that)

Don’t forget the role of the local council or local social services either. If the police were disregarding evidence because they were part of a paedophile ring then then same accsuation must be made towards other institutions and political bodies who also disregarded evidence. Though I suspect a variety of reasons were involved in the disregard of these accusations.

Two other things I will note. Firstly, this Rotherham social service body were the same group who removed 3 ethnic minority children from the home of foster carers. The reason; the foster carers were members of UKIP. Surely, an example of ideology triumphing over common sense.

Secondly, recently we have had taxi companies lobby against Uber cabs. One of the allegations by traditional taxi companies was that Uber drivers were not vetted. They even pointed to one or two cases where Uber drivers had committed crimes. Well, traditional taxi drivers have now been found to be abusing young girls by the dozen in Rotherham and elsewhere. They have been doing so for years.

It takes a concerted effort to bring a prosecution in cases like this. You are dealing with kids who are drunk or drugged up most of the time and come from broken homes. They do not make the best witnesses in court and may well be unwilling to testify because of threats they have received.

I do wonder about those policemen and social workers who ignored the clear warning that were coming from frontline staff.

It seems the way you get on in public service organisations is by playing the system, making sure the statistic look good. This, and the practice of paying top salaries to public service managers seems to have created a series of scandals.

However, it was not much better before targets and metrics were used to compare the performance of public services. Before that it was done on ‘trust’. Confidence in the integrity of public servants that they would provide the service the public expect. Often that trust was misplaced and in some places the standard was low and other places fine.

I really don’t know how you solve this management problem. That is what business schools are for. But it seems clear that lack of transparency was a serious issue. That brings us onto another excuse: data protection and a culture of confidentiality. The Nordic countries seem more successful in managing their public services by being very open about everything and this encourages meritocracy. People see what they are getting for the tax money and trust and value the service.

In the UK, ‘Top Secret’ gets slapped on anything and everything, especially if it could reveal incompetence. Personal privacy, data protection Act,national security, client confidentiality, sub judice, non disclosure agreements…so many plausible reasons to keep everything covered up.

The reasons for failures like this are not hard to spot. What gets me is the class of managers who are responsible for these services. In this case the police, the social services and the local politicians. Clearly they were not people of any great integrity or principle. How can you be in charge of something like that and not do anything?

In other, similar cases a disturbing attitude was clearly held by the managers. These kids were lost. They were prostitutes and were beyond the control of their parents or the care authorities. In one case it was said they had made a ‘lifestyle choice’ to engage in prostitution from an early age and little could be done to change that.

I think that attitude is very prevalent but it assumes that they were acting independently and disregarded the criminal influences that forcing them down this path.

For the criminals who controlled them it seems they discovered that pimping the girls and living off the proceeds was a lucrative sideline. I would be interested to hear from the taxi drivers of Rotherham, it sounds as if those guys were an important part of the whole sordid business. You would not have to be much of a detective to identify who was responsible. Gangs like the one that seemed to be operating in Rotherham can be dealt with effectively by the police if they consider it a priority as has been shown by cases in other areas. Sadly, they didn’t think it a priority until quite recently.

I believe this whole story and the official independent investigation started as a result of an investigative journalist Andrew Norfolk, from the Times newspaper breaking the story in 2012.

At least the press seem to have been doing their job properly.

This scandal on top of Saville and the emerging Westminster scandal.

Something has got to be done at a national level to fix this. Who knows how many other scandals there are hidden in rotten boroughs up and down the country.

Hardly ‘traditional’ - they’re not black cabs regulated by the Public Carriage Office, but minicabs, long the province of dodgy drivers.

It’s not just the UK, 90% of Pakistani street children have been abused (according to the Daily Mail,so take it with a pinch of salt.)

It seems the authorities in Rotherham had a set of priorities and child protection came a long way after child neglect and supporting families that were still intact.

Social services tend to shy away from the difficult cases because they are not confident they can do much that is effective. They all know families that complete disasters, utterly chaotic and they consume inordinate amounts of public resources.

Support a much larger number of people with social programs that could prevent them from damaging children through neglect…or…concentrate on the really bad cases?

You are damned if you do and damned of you don’t.

I can see there will be a inquiries and a big debate over what to do about problem families on the edge of criminality. Head them off with a team of police and social workers and all the other publicly funded professionals - crisis management? But that money has got to come from other budgets and if it taken from softer programs to help people take control over their lives and deal with common problems, it might not be such a good investment. Those social support programs can be very effective and prevent a lot of trouble in the future. There are no simple answers to the problems that go on behind closed doors. Every community has a lot of dirty washing that they do not want the public to know about.

Simply paying big salaries to whoever can deliver the best statistics obviously hasn’t worked. That seems very clear. I suspect that we will have some ground breaking public policy document at some point. We have an election coming up in less than a year, it would be nice if there was a cross party consensus on this and some much needed transparency.

I am pretty sure most countries with a developed social service sector agonise about the same issues. Possibly not in the same sensational way they do in the UK where the public conversation in the press has a tendency towards drama.

If I’m reading Casdave right, what we have here is a combination of the worst features of modern conservatism and modern liberalism.

You had conservative white cops who figured the victims were essentially white trash girls who’d sullied themselves by associating with dirty Pakistanis and pretty much deserved what they got.

And you also had liberal white social workers who tried to ignore the problem entirely because it’s not nice to notice when non-white people do bad things.

There is a bit more to it than that.

Places like Rotherham tend to have the same party in power for years. It is solid Labour territory. However, there have recently been challenges from the Far Right who try to exploit any tension between the immigrant communities and the indigenous English population by seizing on this sort of issue. The police are very wary of any demonstrations, not least because it will mean they have to mount a large police presence to preserve public order. That would blow a bit hole in their annual budget.

The local government will be concerned about maintaining alliances with immigrant community leaders who can deliver votes. In terms of social work priorities, they would say child neglect is their primary concern and that deals mainly with younger children who may not be sufficiently cared for by their parents. Again that is a budget issue, child cruelty cases that go to court are very expensive.

Wild teenagers who do not respond to parental authority and housed in social care homes until they are old enough look after themselves are the problem.

What do you do? You can’t lock them up, they have rights. They may have all kinds of issues having been neglected or abused themselves when younger.

How do you stop them from seeking the company of guys who are criminals who turn out to be pimps?

The fact that the these gangs of pimps were from an immigrant community is neither here nor there. There are criminals in every community and guys who get up to this sort of crime are not uncommon.

There is one important difference between communities like the Pakistani community and English and it is that Pakistanis are family people. They have big extended families and many obligations. English culture was once like that, a few generations ago, but family structures are far less developed. Part of the reason for that is the role of the state which does many of the things that were formerly done by family networks. In places like India and Pakistan, family is everything and state provides very little. Those immigrant communities, are quite well organised and they tend to look after themselves. They also observe each other and family honour is an important matter. That could affect marriage prospects, which is a big deal.

Great for the local social services, they don’t have to do anything. They are also mostly law abiding and lots of welfare considerations are taken care of by the family and community organisations. They are seldom a source of drunken mayhem, so the police have an easy time as well.

So, there are lots of reasons not to rock the boat and a cosy consensus prevails as far as the authorities are concerned and the local politicians get the votes they need.

However there are two problems with this.

There is a pent up frustration within tight knit communities. Everyone is looking at you and your behaviour is checked. For young men (and older ones for that matter) this can be difficult to handle and prostitution is common. Especially in another town where no-one knows your face. Add to that a social care home full of wild English girls who have no family to look out for them and social workers who a counting the days until they no longer have responsibility for their difficult charges. The girls hang around the local takeaway as teenagers do and they get to know local taxi drivers because the local social services pays for them to be delivered to school each morning. All the ingredients are there and the girls fall into a cycle of abuse. Moreover, there is abuse within the extended families of the Pakistani community as well. Families hide a lot of things. Every now and then it comes to the surface as an ‘honour killing’. A girl has brought shame on her family and is killed by her relatives. It happens from time to time.

People know what goes on but they keep quiet about it for what they imagine is the greater good. Family honour is maintained, social work and police budgets are on target and the polticians get re-elected.

The people on the ground, the local police and social workers see what goes on, but are powerless to do anything. Their senior managers define policy and control budgets and it is they who should have been on top of the problem. So it is tolerated until it becomes a big enough problem to break into a press story. That is what happened in Rotherham. A reporter pieced the internal reports together and ran stories that prompted questions further up the political tree. The local politicians, police and senior social workers did not recognise there was a problem despite many reports saying there was. The story broke and it went to a national level.

This case is not alone, there have been others in quite widely separated areas. It has now become an political issue and eventually a big report will be written outlining the problem and how social policy should be adapted to deal with it. Then it will be rolled out on a national scale. There has been a conversation about this sort of syndrome for a couple of years now. This case will accelerate the momentum.

Eventually the police will be told to target these guys who are pimping and they will be brought to justice. The girls will be moved to some place of safety and there will be womens refuge schemes specifically aimed at the Pakistani community and others that have the same problems.

Then we will stop reading about this in the newspapers and we can all get back to watching Breaking Bad and be relieved that while we have social problems in the UK, other places have it worse.

Sorry but I disagree with the vast majority of your post, you are blaming the victims.

I actually thought pretty carefully about my reaction to your post, but I shall not let emotions get the better of me, please examine what you have just posted and explain it.

When parents are contacting police and social services about the rape of their children - always it is rape because they are under the age of consent - and those agencies simply turn away, and others wring their hands because ‘nothing can be done’ that is far more than tearaway youth and problem children.

Even if under age children are willingly taking part, its still rape, and its still a criminal offence.

Sorry if you got that impression, but was not making any judgement on the victims. I was just explaining the broader context and the attitudes towards these girls that led to this situation. The senior police and social workers did not feel they were responsible for protecting them and they were uncontrollable.

That was wrong. I expect an investigation will reveal how that policy came about and why it was not changed when warnings were raised that the vulnerable were being targeted by criminals.

There is no doubt that crimes were committed and there is a police team dedicated to investigating them, cases will eventually come to court.

I chat to a friend who works in child protection and he has told me something of the attitudes that prevail amongst social workers and the police.

Those are not my attitudes and I think what happened in Rotherham is very wrong and the leadership of these public services should be held to account for letting this happen. The victims should get justice and the criminals brought to book.

It is astonishing that the people at the top in Rotherham ultimately responsible for this scandal have not resigned.

The Police and Crime Commissioner is a relatively recent job, the UK attempt to introduce some political oversight over the police. The UK did not really have democratically elected officials responsible for the police like they have in the US. They seem to have missed something out when they passed the law: how to sack them.

This guy refuses to accept that he was responsible and is using ‘the President did not know’ defence. In the case of Rotherham, there were quite clearly several reports pointing to the problem, which he should have seen.

The head of Social services also refuses to resign.

I suspect these people want to be sacked so they can sue the authorities for unfair dismissal. They are rich enough to employ good lawyers and will take it as far as they can.

Can you think of any similar cases, elsewhere in the world? Genuine question, not playing gotcha. I’m thinking about the enormous scope of both the crimes and the wide-ranging cover-ups, in both the Saville and the Rotherham case.

I’m attracted to the idea that “it’s just gotta be” something uniquely British about it all, what with the bureaucratic snobbery, sneering, class-based contempt for the “lower classes,” institutionalised victim-blaming, etc., but of course I could be wildly off-base; I will admit to harbouring strongly anti-British prejudices.

In the Saville case it seems a powerful celebrity who used his good works for charity to pressure people into covering up his horrendous abuse.

In the Rotherham case it seems massive political correctness allowed reports of ongoing abuse by Pakistani Brit’s against working class white brit’s allowed the issue to get covered up too.

All those elements can be seen in other countries and cultures. There are always conflicts within societies and between communities. Sometimes they create social injustic. Local politics and public institutions often lose their way and need to be put back on track. I would say that is pretty standard workings of a civic society.

The only thing I can see that may be especially British is the way the scandal has been revealed and reported by the press. The UK press feeds a huge public appetite for stories that contain elements of scandal and sensation. It is from scandals like this and the political imperatives they produce we get the backing for serious measures and long lasting reform. It is not discrete nor particularly dignified ‘national conversation’ but it is a cultural pattern that is recognisable over the past few hundred years and it has led to progressive reforms.

Turn over a few stones in any culture or society and you often find things that are unpleasant.

Maybe you should work on that, then. It makes any opinion you might have on the matter worthless.