What is considered fat?

Ahh Kalhoun, I think elgar thinks she is fat, which is affecting her relationship with her husband, and she wants to know if it bothers him. For herself, IMNSHO, she needs either to lose weight or change her definition of fat. For her marriage, she needs to find out if her husband perceives her the way she does. In most couples I know, the woman is more worried about her weight than her husband is. Of course, if a husband has a big problem with his wife’s weight, the marriage may be in serious trouble, and so there are fewer of those couples around.

I know that whenever I think I know what is going on in my wife’s head, I’m wrong. There is only one way for elgar to find out, and that is to ask, in a manner that doesn’t leave her husband defensively giving the “right” answer instead of the truth. I don’t think I met a guy that fell in love, to the point of marriage, without falling in lust, and it has only been three years, so I don’t think she needs to worry.

“Do I look fat?”

No, you don’t look fat honey… :slight_smile:

I, for one, think fat has a purpose. I surf in the cold Pacific ocean for long, long hours & if I don’t have a layer of fat, I get cold fast, even with a wetsuit. So, I prefer to think of fat as insulation. How much insulation is too much? I check around the ribs & the pelvic bone & I should be able to feel them. Just like on our poodle, I have to be able to feel her ribs easily, otherwise, she’s too well insulated :slight_smile:

I’m well insulated but not fat. Okay. Maybe I’m a little bit fat, but it’s good fat. My husband doesn’t seek out to see me naked and this bothered me but he says he doesn’t want me to be cold, so he’ll get under the covers with me. Maybe I’m not insulated enough…hmmmm…I’m 5’8" and 190, so I feel sexy fat, not sad fat.

Does anyone have pictures of what 140, 160, 180 & 200 lb women look like? most women won’t tell me what they weight so i have no idea what each category looks like.

You can’t go by weight. At 185 pounds and 5’5" I was a size 13. (I had a decidedly “Dolly Parton” figure, so make some assumptions to where some of the weight was located…) Size 13 isn’t hugely fat. Certainly no one would ever guess that I weighed that much. I probably looked “thinner” than some women who weighed less than me, but had different bone density and a different type of frame. It’s not that simple.

You go on and take pride in your big women.
There are a number of factors (body composition, etc) but in generall, 170 lbs is pretty heavy for a women unless she’s 6’2" (someone told me that pro-volleyball star Gabby Reece is about 170-180 lbs but I’m too lazy to verify).

Guess you never been to Europe or South America. People there seem skinnier in general.

There’s a diference between the American women portrayed on TV and the real ones.

What is fat?

I AM FAT! **F A T ** - Huge & glorious - magnificently Fat!

I am marvelously obese - so dense that light bends around me!

And married to the sweetest man on the planet, thankyouverymuch.

I get naked at the drop of a hat - I’ve been known to scare my doctors. :eek:

I like being fat.

Even discussing HIEGHTS AND WEIGHTS does not help.

muscle weighs more than fat… so a weel toned, muscular woman would look slim but weigh more than a slim woman with more body fat.

And I do agree… TALK to your hubby. Have a serious talk… not just a “do i look fat” when you are dressing.

Not much to add other than that as the dad of 2 girls aged 15 and 11 it is really sad how much excessive thinness is promoted in US culture. My 15 year old is maybe 5’5" or 6". Really healthy. A dancer who can do 50 pushups. And she was all worried when she discovered that she weighed 130#. I defy anyone in their right mind to look at her and see anything other than an incredibly healthy young woman.

My 11 year old, on the other hand, is a cute little pixie. But she would often go without meals if not encouraged to eat. As of yet she is not TOO thin in my eyes, but we are keeping an eye out to make sure she doesn’t tip in that direction.

Girls come home from school in grades 1-3, asking if they are fat. I know childhood obesity is a growing concern in America, but it really is sad to hear healthy - even skinny - little girls sound concerned over their weight.

The previous responses are consistent with my opinion that it is entirely a personal choice. The reality is that none of us look the same at 30-40 as we did at 20. And a new dad may have a hard time conceiving of the toll pregnancy takes on a woman’s body. It would not be unique for your bubby to think, “Heck, I’m still in shape. Why has she let herself go like this?” Fortunately, with most sane men, this passes. Especially when the women’s 30-ish sex lust kicks in with a vengeance.

I personally was always a tall, rail skinny kid. Now I dislike it when I have to go up a waist size. Not only because I prefer the way I look and feel when I am thin, but I don’t want to go out and replace all of my clothes. And I hate the thought of giving up more and more ground every year. Of course, the joke is to keep buying more and more “relaxed” fit pants, and you can magically retain the same measurements! :wink:

For me, if I put on a few pounds it is a sign that I have been especially sedentary or hitting the feed trough too heavy, and I am able to take it off quickly. But at 42 I have accepted a baseline of 10 pounds higher than when I was 20-35.

Oh yeah - men ARE pigs and will continue to check out young gals until the close the casket on them. But looking is just that. And few men “of a certain age” are fools enough to think the young fit women even notice them in return. And they no more expect their wives to model for a pin-up spread than they themselves will go into a pose-off with the 0% fat high school/college studs at the community pool.

Get comfortable inside your own skin, no matter how much of it you have. In most cases I believe “fat” is an attitude more than numbers. I have none several really obese women, but the term “fat” would not come to mind describing them if they were intelligent, lively, funny, etc. But, if they dress sloppy, carry themselves poorly, and display no personality, their weight seems to come to the forefront.

or a Variation on one…

Having coached my wife through two pregnancies, my definitions of “fat” and “attractive” overlap.

A lot.

I know some people who are way overweight (think Dance instructor lady (Miss Patty) on Gilmore Girls). Some of them, like Miss Patty, are perfectly comfortable with their weight, move well, and don’t seem bothered by it at all. They are attractive, but don’t come across as fat.

I also know some people who are probably less than 50 pounds over their ideal weight. They are obviously struggling to get by; they have problems getting in and out of cars, their clothes never fit, they can’t carry anything or go up or down flights of stairs. They are fat.

I realize there’s a lot of overlap there between “fat” and “out of shape,” and if those people who were just a little overweight exercised enough to be comfortable, they’d be fine, but still. I’d rather go to bed with somebody who’s 150 pounds overweight, and okay with it, than somebody who’s 20 pounds overweight and can’t walk up a flight of stairs without breaking a sweat.

Definitely - height makes all the difference in whether X number of pounds is “fat” or not. I keep reading all sorts of beauty articles that seem to classify a size 12 as “fat” or “large”. However, I wear that size because I’m fairly tall for a woman (around 5’9"), and I need size 12 slacks as size 10s don’t fit my hips comfortably. I am not fat. What I am is out of shape, but I have only a smallish bulge for a stomach.

I weigh around 150 pounds. I have a medium bone structure, broad hips, and a round but muscular butt. I could stand to lose some weight in my stomach, but with the exercise program I’m beginning that I hope will get me back in shape and tone me, my muscle development should cause me to actually weigh more.

Reported.

Here’s a photographic height and weight chart.

Does it promote staying active, getting plenty of sleep, and eating a diet high in braaaaaaains?

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Gotta watch everything. :frowning:

Fat sounds ugly and mean to me. Overweight, will have to do, although one time husband #2 did refer to me as his overweight girlfriend (shocked!) and it made me sad since I have never forgotten it.
I am still overweight despite having lost about 70lbs. I also have breast implants that have deflated (sadness). For the longest time all the droopiness and stretch marks from bearing a 10lb son then twins that add up to 10lbs made me sad and husband #2 wasn’t a complimentary type man. Then I married Husband #3. He tells me Im beautiful and I believe it. He makes the motions and the hubba hubbas while pinching my rear that lead me to believe that I am an attractive and sexually desirable woman. Me believing it has helped with my confidence tremendously, and they say that being confident makes people attractive.

I think I have the opposite of anorexia, where you look at yourself and you don’t believe you’re overweight. It takes a picture that someone else has taken to cure me of that.

Without a grand, emotional announcement, ask him how he feels about your body. And when he’s honest with you take his word for it. And then love him because he still picks you over everyone else.

Meh. It’s only manipulative if you won’t be able to handle it if he says “You could lose a few.” and he knows it. Otherwise, if you guys go in for the hard truths, no big deal. Ask away.

My ex wife did this and it was…not the best. Even knowing what the cause of it is, it’s hard not to be hurt by it. Dude loves and wants to be intimate with you, not your metage.

It’s been my experience that personality can make you real ugly, but not so much the other way around.
Here’s my advice. If you look at yourself in the mirror and think Gross! (which appears to be the case) then you think you’re fat, and you’re not going to be happy until you fix it. So, fix it. Right now you’re just making yourself miserable over it.

You do realize that the OP hasn’t been around this site in over 12 years.