Cute. Oh, the irony…
Here’s my complete quote:
"Hardly. **I’d say there were few debaters here who act in that manner. **And even fewer who do so and manage to remain. december is certainly one.
I’m actually quite surprised that you think that most people have this opinion. What an unpleasant view of debating you must have."
Your opinion was that “Few debators do NOT say that about their opponents.” I respectfully disagreed.
I still do, though no longer respectfully. 
Btw, I do not think december ought to be banned. But I do think his “thread-starting” abilities ought to be restricted.
They are a stain on the board.
In another community I was in (the Cloudmakers) we had one member who had joined late, and proceeded to hijack every single discussion on the board to his own agenda. The mods of that group decided to limit his abilities to post messages, and it resulted in a remarkably more reasonable tone of discussion from all concerned, including the offending member.
Unfortunately, the sheer volume of december’s posting is such that it would be unfair to request to our SD mods to request the same for him.
Too bad, because I don’t think december should be banned either, but something like the Greenlaw Rule would be ideal for him.
The Admins probably won’t go for this but the problem could be solved by giving december his own forum.
You’re talking about the concept of a ‘shunning’, SG. Interesting concept.
But I don’t think december’s detractors have the strength of character to simply ignore his posts and let him talk only to himself and his fellow travellers.
I think you’re selling a bunch of people short. I’d say there are plenty of people who realized long ago that trying to reason with december is pointless so they don’t even bother opening his threads anymore. Some also avoid threads about him.
There’s always going to be someone who unwittingly stumbles into december’s threads so what SG proposes won’t really work.
I’d be sad to see December go just as I was sad to see Collounsbury go though for different reasons. They add flavour and character to the board and were sure to liven things up. Even though December is a garden variety propagandist and all round dillpickle he still has a useful contribution to make. If that contribution is only to serve as a bad example and to make conservatives look like ignorant hatemongers then so be it. No banning please.
The new Steven King movie: Threadstarter.
A truly chilling concept.
If december’s undoubted talents at eliciting visceral howls of rage from opponents are too much to bear, consider again a proposal I made awhile back.
Someone with more time on his/her hands than I, plus a bit of webspace, could do a december page, complete with tasteful graphics and a set of his dumbest OPs and postings, complete with a numerical list of the fallacies he redundantly falls into. Then, whenever the latest dopey OP appears, one could simply link to the page, say “Bankrupt tactic #6” and move on.
Ugh. :eek:
I cannot fucking believe that you went and read that thread and aren’t outraged. I didn’t misrepresent anything. The OP stated exactly what I said it did. He wanted US soldiers to die. He went on to defend that position and was supported by others.
You quote a sentance of Dinsdale saying he “truly do not wish harm upon any individual in the US/coalition military.” Gee, what a swell guy. He only wants them to suffer large casualites. That sounds like wishing harm to me. It’s just not on an individual basis. Whatever.
As to this crap:
E.g., TVAA: “If the war goes well, and this strategy becomes the avowed doctrine of the US, then many more people will eventually die.”
MMI: “The flip side is I don’t want any of our servicepeople to die. I do not know that I could face the math, of having people die, even if it could alter potential enemies perceptions.”
TVAA: “I wouldn’t prefer the suffering and death of those involved in the war.”
Latro: “What other way do you people see to prevent this nightmare [i.e., “a century of war”] from unfolding?”
Great. So, they have really good reasons (in your opinion, apparantly) for wanting US soldiers to die. It’s still fucking wrong. Either way, they got away with it in GD, when december gets shipped off to the pit for far less. The OP of that post alone was way beyond anything december said in his thread.
Since you ask so nicely:
Re-reading you post I can see that the comment
“The SDMB doesn’t need this shit.”
Could mean we don’t need to be arguing about december. I took it to mean “The SDMB doesn’t need december.” Am I correct in my second interpretation?
I’m posting while drunk. Sorry, doesn’t often happen. I was curious about this thread and that fucking rediculous post by minty drove me to log in.
My second interpretation of your post, Jeff was the reading that “the SDMB doesn’t need this shit (to be arguing over december)”.
Assuming this is correct, I apologize for my mis-reading your post earlier today. I thought you were calling for decembers banning, saying we don’t need this shit (december).
ElvisL1ves
WTF are you talking about?
I’ve ommitted nothing. I’ve admitted nothing. And I haven’t misrepresented anything either.
I will however, submit that you are a toolbag who needs to go back and read that thread.
:wally
Apology accepted. Yes, I was saying we all could find better use for our time instead of going 'round & 'round about december. Everyone keeps saying the same old thing but nobody’s listening.
This thread locked in 5…4…3…2…
What is december still doing here?
Using his right to free speach. And what do we do if we have no-one to correct?
If everyone thinks likevise?
It would not be nice just to streamline all thinking.
That said:
Morons of the world unite! Show us how stupid rants You can produce from the ultra-right!
P.S. I have even read about a guy that explained that communism came to USA when the US post was run by the government.
That was most enlighting 
Henry
Henry
With all due respect, before you call people morons, You should learn that free speech in the US means that government may not abridge speech. Private interests, like the Chicago Reader, may censor whatever they please. Here is the full text of the First Amendment:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Emphasis mine.
Is there anyone who thinks that december does NOT hyperbolize his rhetoric with the intention of being inciteful?
Yes.
It seems to me that december mostly posts about political topics. On most political issues there is simply no right or wrong answer. It is just a matter of opinion. Should taxes be cut? Should the US go to war with Iraq? Those are political topics to which there is no one true answer and thus the fighting ignorance part does not apply.
I figure there are quite a few people on both sides of the political spectrum who will never change their mind no matter how convincing arguments their opponents put forth.
I think that a lot of the debates started by december can be quite interesting reading and quite enjoyable to read, apart from the posters who respond just by calling him an idiot and never seriously try to counter his arguments.