Jeebus forking cripes on a bicycle. I didn’t know there WERE 5,000 women in Israel. In the pics all you ever see is stinky-looking guys in uniforms carrying assualt rifles and pigtailed orthodox jews.
I knew Saudi Arabia was a shithole in its treatment of women, and a lot of other Arab states, too, but I really did expect better of Israel. Maybe it was naive of me. And it’s not just Israeli criminals that are to blame. Judges giving guys who are RUNNING sex slavery rings community service instead of actual jail time? Who the hell is running things over there, John Norman?
It’s getting harder and harder to tell the good guys from the bad guys over there …
These kinds of statistics are of course very difficult to verify, but it is clear that Israel (or, indeed, the Middle East) is not at all unique in this regard. The vast majority of trafficked people are women, most of those bound for the sex trade, and quite a lot of them cross borders everywhere in the world. Of course, estimates vary widely, but clearly there are many bad guys in America too; how many just depends who you ask:
(from Wikipedia, citing an Attorney General report)
Yeah, but how many US judges have given convicted sex slavery ring operators farking COMMUNITY SERVICE? I’ll bet the number would be really close to “0.” If not 0.
What is it about North America that turns men and women alike into finger pointing, icehole pigs who fail to see that many of the problems they blast the rest of the world for having, occur here?
This isn’t a problem with the Middle East or just Middle Eastern men- this is a global problem that is happening at our front door as well. And heaven knows we- Americans- have plenty corruption in our legal system. Unless you’re trying to say that all of our judges are fair and strict and only looking out for the well-being of the community.
A bunch of European countries that legalize prostitution have to grapple with sex slavery because it’s a legal recourse. If I recall, Germany had/perceived to have a problem with this exact thing during the World Cup.
Exactly. It would be like saying, “Why are there so many women alcoholics?” If there’s the same or greater rate of alcoholism among men, the question becomes uninteresting.
Y’know, if someone was gonna ask me about the country or area I’d think of when they say “sex slavery”, the first place I’d think of is Thailand. Not the middle east.
But it happens everywhere. It’s pretty stupid to say WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THE MIDDLE EAST AND ALL THIS GOING ON when, uh, it happens the whole world 'round.
I’m just trying to point out that your anger is misplaced. The Middle East has nothing to do with this, other than they are our current punching bags here in the west. A few years ago it was the Thai sex trade, before that it was South America.
Of course our own problem with the sex trade does not justify theirs, but the point is that it isn’t just them. This is a global problem and your suggestion that Middle Eastern men are just “farging icehole sexist pigs” isn’t fair. If your criterion to be a “farging icehole sexist pig” is the partcipation in the sex trade, then pretty much everyone in this world is a farging icehole sexist pig-- from those that actively participate and those of us that turn a blind eye to it.
I am always wary and skeptical of these alarmist estimates and claims. Sex slavery has always been a problem, but I’ve never seen compelling evidence that there is the huge underground network of nefarious human traffickers that the media is trying to sell us on.
Sex slavery and trafficking in humans is not new, media hype, or unique to Israel in any way. It is real and it is tragic. It’s estimated between 800,000 and 900,000 people are trafficked every year, mostly, but not entirely, as sex slaves.
I’ve had a lot of training and information on this thrown at me, because Bulgaria is both a source and a destination for trafficking. The people here, especially minorities, are poor and often desperate to find work in the West. The typical scenario is that a “friend” or even a “boyfriend”, someone a woman might have known for months, and trusts, suggests going to Greece or Italy to look for work. But as soon as they cross the border, she is sold into slavery to a waiting pimp. After that, she is held captive, told that she owes the pimp money for the cost of transporting her, and is beaten and raped. There are also trafficked women from even poorer countries, like Ukraine and Moldova, being prostituted in the resort towns on the Black Sea coast.
Yeah, even in the US you can look for those massage parlor ads int he sports sections of major newspapers (the Washington Post used to have them. They may still but I don’t read the hardcopy any more) for ‘Asian Massage’ or ‘Oriental Full’ massages. I’m pretty suspicious that the women in those places aren’t there entirely voluntarily.
No it’s not. Just because sex slavery exists in the US, it doesn’t mean sex slavery in Israel is OK. Murder exists in the US too, does that mean it’s OK everywhere else?
Like I said, I thought the Israelis were somehow better than us as far as crime goes. Now I know better.
You should be. Here in Georgia there was a bust a few years ago of a sex slavery ring that was operating Asian massage parlors and kept hundreds of women imprisoned to work there.
But that does sort of undercut your argument about middle eastern males being huge sexist pigs when it’s well-demonstrated that the subject of the rant (sex slavery) is endemic around the world.
That doesn’t, however, mean that sexism doesn’t have differing levels of concentration in different regions around the world.
Well ya see, furt, there’s this thing called reality and this thing called fantasy and, well, they’re different. Frex, as a kid I used to enjoy playing war games – the tactical and strategic one where you slid pieces around on a board emulating generals, but also running around with a stick going “bang!” Even as a kid I realized that war was not a good thing, that really killing people and really being shot was very different from going 'bang!" and then dropping to the ground in dramatic fashion.