What Is the Gospel?

Over on another GD thread His4Ever said the above, and I completely agree – and, I think, so would lekatt and a number of other regular posters to GD religious threads.

But I suspect that the average lurker would never know that we agree by our posts.

Certainly the reference is not to the four books of the Bible called “the Gospels.” I know what I mean by the term. I have a passable idea of what His4Ever means by it – but I don’t want to put words into her mouth. And I have a fair hunch what several other posters might be using the term to mean.

So the basic question is, “What constitutes the Gospel which Christians are commanded to share with others?” In what does the kerygma, the basic “teaching of the Gospel” consist? There will, I think, be a variety of points of view and hence emphases as answers to this question.

One small ground rule: Questions are just fine, but if you want to post why someone is wrong, don’t stop there but explain further what is right instead. In short, let’s not get bogged down in how someone’s conception is in error, but rather look at positive statements that show different perspectives on the question.

In particular, questions from non-Christians poking holes in our assumptions might be most helpful in explaining what it is that we mean by the term, and why and how people are supposed to react to it.

gospel = “goy schpiel” or non-jewish stories. So I guess it’s the whole New Testament. :smiley:

Er, no, sorry, QM (or are you kidding?)

I can’t put it any better than the dictionary, Poly.

Nice way to kill a thread, DDG!!! :mad: :smiley:

Seriously, what is *entailed * in “sharing the message concerning Christ, the kingdom of God, and salvation” seems to be what people have a problem with. Got any comments?

The gospel is the good news that Jesus came and shed His precious blood for our sins so that anyone believing in Him might have eternal life. John 3:16 is often used as a description of the gospel: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” It’s clear from Scripture that Jesus knew the purpose for which He came. At the last supper as Jesus gave the bread and wine He said of the cup as He passed it: For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins, Matthew 26:28. Jesus also said in Luke 24:47, "And that repentance and remissions of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. I know there are those who don’t believe Jesus died for our sins. There are too many Scriptures that say otherwise so I can’t agree with that teaching, ever. There are many Scriptural warnings and exhortations also that indicate not everyone is saved, only those who accept and trust in Jesus as their Saviour believing in His sacrifice on the cross for our sin. According to John 3:36 God’s wrath abides on those who don’t have the Son. I’ve said it before. God is pure and holy and can’t look upon or exuse sin. God is also love. He loved us yet we’d sinned. The sin had to be paid for. So because of His great love for us, Jesus came and paid that price so that those believing in Him can be saved. Jesus is the Lamb, the sacrifice for the sins of men.

I imagine the reason a lot of people have trouble with Christianity is it’s exclusivity. We believe there’s one truth for everyone, only one plan of salvation, only one way to God, not many paths as some want to believe. This is the truth and why we proclaim Christ as the only way to the Father and why we send people to other countries to win souls for Christ out of every nation. Many, of course, disagree with this but that doesn’t change what the gospel is : the good news of Jesus’ sacrifice for our sins.

A historical question from a non-Christian:

Why were the various books that became the Christian canon picked? For example, why was Peter or the Letters of Paul chosen yet Thomas was left out? Are there any records of the decisions made to accept some books as canon and others to be left out?

My God Freyr, talk about a hijack. Good question though, so why don’t you start your own thread in GQ?

Freyr, for one person’s version of why St. Thomas and other books were excluded from the Bible: http://petragrail.tripod.com/nicea.html

Our right to share ends where the other person’s right NOT to hear begins. How would we feel if some Muslim backed us into a corner to hear her or his beliefs and Koran quotations?

You speak for yourself, not for all Christians. I and many other Christians believe that there are many paths that lead to the same God who is known by different names. Other Christians disagree. Have you ever noticed the similarities in the world’s great religions? I do not proclaim the Christ as the only way to the Father although I believe that he did die for the misdeeds of all.

These are my beliefs as a Christian. And, according to the teachings of Jesus, we cannot sit in judgment of each other.

I believe that “the Gospel” is used to mean “the good news” of the coming of the Christ, his teachings, his sacrifice and acension into heaven, and our redemption by that sacrifice.

“The Gospels,” however, refers to the first four books of the New Testament – Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. (Some Biblical scholars now refer to “the five Gospels” and add the Gospel according to Thomas.

“gospel” is also used as a synonym for “truth.”

I hardly find St Paul’s teachings about the role of women to be “good news” in any way! Of course, there are other parts of St. Paul’s writings that I find to be of great comfort and insight.

I do not take every word of the Bible literally. (I find that the New Testament contradicts much of the Old Testament and thank God for that!)

If you want “to win souls” live such a good example of love and peace that others will ask to know where your strength comes from.

“Sharing the Gospel” != “Sharing my view of the Gospel.” We’ve already seen what passes for H4E’s sharing her view: malicious lies and willful ignorance.

Better yet, we’ve seen Polycarp’s version of sharing the the Gospel: Poly lives it.

I leave it to you to decide what should complete the following equation: Sharing the Gospel = x.

Yes, DDG, that was my lame attempt at yiddish humor.

QtM

Qadgop, I love you dearly, but a skilled doctor like yourself should have more respect for someone with a sour stomach!:smiley:

To me, the Gospel is not only John 3:16, but also John 3:17, “It was not to judge the world that God sent his Son into the world, but that through him the world might be saved.” As a side note, His4Ever, each time I catch you quoting John 3:16 in a judgemental context, I am going to cite John 3:17 at you until we both know both verses equally well. :wink:

More to the point, the Good News which is the essential point of Christianity, and which keeps me from turning away from it is not only that Christ died that our sins might be forgiven and that we all might be Saved, whatever you choose to mean by that, it’s that the great and all powerful Creator of the Universe chose to wear this fragile, mortal form so that He might make it clear to us human beings that He understands us. He understands the limitations of human flesh, including farting, needing to go to the bathroom at inconvenient moments, muscle aches and sore feet, sleepiness, anger, fear, and yes, even that damnably inconvenient emotion that is lust. He also understands the comfort of a friend’s smile, a good laugh, and even a good glass of wine. When my furnace was out earlier this week, I found myself praying, talking to Christ as intimately as if He were an old and treasured friend about the pleasure of a warm bed on a cold night, and about the temptation of remaining in that warm bed on a cold morning. All the while, I was aware that I was speaking to the All Powerful, All Knowing, who could incinerate my entire apartment with much less energy that it takes me to blink. In another religion, I might be concerned about God doing so and not noticing. Because of Christianity, because of the words of Christ recorded in the 4 canonical Gospels, I know he Will notice, will not do destroy me in a moment of inattention, and will continue to love me. I’m a very small an insignificant sheep who’s prone to going astray, but He knows my name and will find me and love me anyway, no matter what incredibly awkward situation I get myself into (and there have been some doozies!).

I’ve been struggling a lot, these past few months. Quite frankly, there have been days when I haven’t been sure I’ll survive. God who created the mountains, the oceans, and the unfathomable depths and glory of space knows of this, and has, in the person of His Son, known what it is to hurt, to weep, even to lose a friend in far worse circumstances than I have. In that glorious entity that is the Holy Spirit, He has wrapped me in His love and seen me through a few rather nasty nights. Last night, when I was driven by depression to believe myself unlovable, I opened my book of daily devotions to find this verse (from Revelations, no less!) highlighted: “And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.” I can’t give you the Biblical context yet. In the context of my life, it prompted a fresh flood of tears, and the question, “Even all of mine?” The answer was, of course, “Yes.”

Excuse me. This has been a long post even by my standards, and it’s probably one of the most overt bits of witnessing I’ve ever done. Still, Polycarp did ask, and my answer is important, if only to me. The Good News? Even an outcast rebel who managed to achieve negative self esteem like me is not only loved, but known and cherished by the Creator of All Things, and He made the ultimate sacrifice to prove it. Now if only He’d find me a job!:wink:

Very, very humbly,
CJ

The Gospel, to me, means doing what Christ said-love your God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself.

Do unto others as you would have done unto you. It says, over and over, that whatever we do to one another, we’re doing to Him.

It is a message of liberation-a way of freeing ourselves and others from injustice, intolerance, and hatred and ignorance.

Jesus constantly said, love, love, love your neighbor. Love your God, love yourself, love the earth, love one another, love love love… (All you need is love!!!).

LOVE is the Gospel, I believe. God is Love.

Thanks, Zoe, that helped answer my question.

Sorry to scare you like that, grienspace, but I thought that in discussing the Christian Gospel, knowing it’s history would be important!

Don’t then forget to include John 3:18 - “Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son” :wink:

The gospel (to me) is the good news that God has provided us with a way to be reconciled with Him through the death and resurrection of His son, Jesus Christ. My responsibility is to witness (as one would in a court case) to what I have experienced, read and heard about God. If someone wants to know more, I will tell them, but only if they want to know. Then (and only then) we can talk about the cost of discipleship, how I think your faith should affect the way you manage your finances or why meeting regularly with other Christians is important.

I have yet to meet someone who has been converted/changed thier mind by the random ravings of a street corner preacher - which is why I don’t do it… well, one of the reasons… :wink:

Grim

To which I cleverly riposte with John 3:19, 20, and21:

John 3:22 and 23 anyone? :wink:

Actually, the Bible I use on an everyday basis puts John 3:18 a bit more gently – “the unbeliever has already been judged in that he has not given his allegiance to God’s only son.”, but that probably should be over in the Biblical inerrancy thread.

It’s a pleasure reading you,
CJ

Don’t forget Revelation 3:(3 or 20)
Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone opens the door and asks Me in, I will sup with him."

Oh, I know, that one’s a real bummer. Always gets me down.

Sorry 'nilla - I couldn’t resist!

I am so sorry Poly, but I couldn’t resist this one either

Jesus knocks

Me: yo - c’mon in Jee!

Jesus: yo man, you ask me in? sup wit you?

Me: chillin. sup wit you?

:smiley:

Mars: :stuck_out_tongue:

CJ speaks for me, and with eloquence and grace.

I’d add that Christ rose, not to produce a bio-philosophical conundrum about life-after-death, but in symbological proof that He provides us with new, richer and fuller, and unending life. Somehow that seems to come missing in these accounts of the sacrificial, propitiatory atonement of Christ to a just God angry about the sins of man – He loves us, all three Persons of Him.

When Jordan was three, he decided it would be fun to run out into the road, and we all lived on a busy rural highway. I grabbed him, scolded him for heading for the road, and spanked him. He was shocked that Uncle Dave, who loved him, would spank him – but the message came across – it’s bad news if you run into the road and get hit and injured or killed by a car; whatever a grownup needs to do to stop you will get done, and you’ll get punished; better, then, to stop yourself from running there.

I didn’t stop loving him; I punished because I loved, and in proportion to his offense, and with the single goal of negative-reinforcement teaching about the danger to himself.

I did not cast him into the trash can, nor turn away from him and refuse to love him any longer. I acted justly for his greater and longer-term good.

Someday he will be grown. I hope he will continue to love me as the old guy who was there for him when he was young, who spanked rarely and always for good purpose, who was prepared to give him treats and attention whenever he wanted, and who now will be his friend as adult to adult. But it will be his choice to continue to love me, or not.

I cannot believe in a God who would condemn eternally for an offense. Rather, his “wrath” – his temporal punishment – is, like mine was, a piece of His love. And I think He will continue to love indefinitely, as I will love Jordan, while allowing His human creatures the freedom to walk away from that love or not – just as I will Jordan.

Mars- LOL!