To All Holier-Than-Thou Christians

I’m sorry, it had to be done. I am not addressing the issue of homosexuality here; I am addressing every time you wrap yourselves up in the Bible, proclaim that your way is the only way, and tell everyone else they are wrong and, by extension, going to hell. Stop it. You are hurting the cause you claim to espouse, the Christ whose salvation you say you proclaim.

I grew up in a Christian small town in the USA, going to church on Sunday, etc. I knew kids in church youth groups and kids who went to the local Catholic school. They could be among the meanest kids in town. It’s hard to see the benefit in a religion whose members are beating you up. I’ve been called “too ugly to live”, been made to feel less than human. I’ve smiled at someone and had it treated as an insult. I’ve received the message “Jesus loves you but I don’t want to talk to you.” Twenty years later, the scars are still there.

You think X is wrong? That’s your privilege. By my standards, for one who proclaims herself a Christian, cruelty is the ultimate sin. Here’s my rationale. According to those verses in Matthew which have been being cited a lot recently, Christ said loving God was the greatest commandment, and loving one’s neighbor, a new commandment, was the second. If you’re calling yourself a Christian, I’ll assume you’re keeping the first commandment. If you show cruelty to someone, by condemning them, by calling them an “abomination”, by telling them that they will never be worthy of salvation, by my standards, you’re breaking that second commandment, the one Christ gave us.

Also, when you condemn without listening, when you show cruelty, you’re driving people away from this beautiful, life-giving, soul-sustaining religion we have the grace to call ours. If you tell me I cannot love, if you tell me I have no faith because I disagree with you, what incentive do I have to change to Christianity? I’ve been involved in a few Atheist vs. Deist threads, and one thing I’ve noticed is people have given up on Christianity because of the actions of Christians.

Look, I’ve been where some of our non-believers are. I freely admit one of the main reasons I’m Christian is because my small church, which had all of three kids in my year in it, was the one place in town I could go and not be insulted. It was a very narrow thing which kept my Christian, and I am grateful for it. My best friend, unfortunately, was insulted and made to cry within church itself. How can that be the action of Christians?

I don’t know God’s will, and I’ve probably got more questions than answers. I’ve noticed that if I keep asking though, I get answers. Sister and Brother Christians, I am not your enemy, but I am someone whose tired of seeing you hurt others while proclaiming a God of Love. I realize some of you won’t bother to read this, but I have to try. I am Called to try, if you will. If I fail, well, it certainly won’t be the first time.

Oh, if you’re wondering about my credentials as a Christian, I’m currently a chalicist, lector, and choir member at my church. I’ve also taught Sunday school, rung bells, played music at retreats, written essays and hymns (dreamer has the text of one), and done whatever else needed to be done. I’m also, for what very little it’s worth, straight.

Respectfully, still,
CJ

I agree with your OP completely and want to raise just a very minor point about those you addressed in your OP who call themselves Christians but do very little to try and follow Christ’s life … there is a term “bibliolatrist”, which basically means “one who worships the Bible”. I have found that often those who lead the happiest lives look at the two commandments you cited about loving God and loving other people. And those who worship the Bible, instead of God, tend to be the ones who are quick to condemn and judge and point fingers. They also tend to be the ones who believe theirs is the one true worldview.

Perhaps the philosopher who said there are as many truths as there are people had the right idea…

May I just offer a loud, hearty, and heartfelt AMEN?

nods

What Steve said.

Trouble is, if they say they are Christians, then that’s unfortunately what most people can be expected to accept, besides, otherwise we just get into the One True Scotsman thing.

Anyway, I’ll be happy to check if you have a speck of sawdust in your eye just as soon as I remove this plank from my own (it’s taking longer than I thought).

I don’t know, Mangetout, I suspect I’ve got enough planks in my eyes to build a pretty good-sized house.

Beautifully put, CJ. In fact, it is not possible to love God without loving others. Whatsoever we do to the least of these…

I myself am not a christian. Never was, never will be. But I hear ya. Unfortunately there is not a whole lot of intellegence out there.
But every once in awhile I come across people that aren’t so disheartening.
There will always be a jerk in the crowd.

Bloody 'ell, I’ll amen that.

Actually, when Christ said to Love Your Neighbor As Yourself, he was quoting from Leviticus. What Jesus did was expand the definition of Neighbor to include even your enemies, as evidenced by his parable of the Samaritan.

Sorry, forget the source: www.biblegateway.com

Well, actually, they are holier than me. I’m not holy at all. In fact, I am downright unholy. And quite pleased about it.

There is a sect of Christians who believe that accepting Christ as their savior insures their entry into heaven. They don’t have to do anything further to deserve it, just accept Christ. I guess if you’re going to heaven no matter what you do after accepting Christ, it’s carte blanche as far as your actions are concerned

Eve, you may be a godless heathen, but you’re better dressed than them! (Doesn’t own a pair of jeans…Hon, that’s just un-American!):wink:

Here’s one that cranks me: Those ads in the classified that say something like “Christian couple available to clean your house.” As if being a self-proclaimed Christian is some sort of moral gold star that makes them immune to the sin of robbing me blind.

The “Jay Leno’s Headlines” section of the Tonight Show Web site has an ad that goes something like “Christian lady with two small Christian dogs seeks house to rent . . .” :rolleyes: :smiley:

I’m not pleased. I wouldn’t normally mind, but the care packages are getting annoying. Will you please stop sending me apples … and I’m not buying the “one a day to keep the doctor away” notes you include
either.

If the devil can cite scripture for his own purposes then the book is useless as a supposed divine moral code. Since there are thousands of possible interpretations of that one book (as shown daily on this board in GD), the idea that any one specific interpretation is better is laughable.

Be nice to people. Help people. Try not to be judgemental. Try to create something. Bring joy to peoples lives as much as is possible.

I don’t care whether you have to believe in purple-flying-people eaters, resurrected messiahs, or thunder gods to get yourself to feel like this is a good idea. The truth is none of you know for sure the nature of reality. At best, you just think you do. If instead of the above you are mean to people, try to be hurtful, are overly judgemental, and bring more anger and pain to peoples lives than good, then regardless of what myths you believe, you come in as a first class jerk in my book.

DaLovin’ Dj

WRT finger pointing -

remember, when you point one finger at someone else, three fingers point back at you.

Eve, you are so deliciously “Eve-il”. Hehe. See you in hell, baby.