His4Ever, A Word With You Please

The BBQ Pit
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His4Ever, I was going to do this privately by e-mail, but since that option’s not open to me, I’m afraid I’ll have to do it here. Concerning your response to this thread on Christ’s adolescence , not only am I a friend of agentfroot, I was also her Sunday School teacher and continue to concerned with her spiritual welfare. I have been to church with her and continue to be chalicist at the same church her family goes to. I can assure you her mind has not been “warped by the evil one.” It has, however, been warped by holier-than-thou Christians. I’m afraid I find your attitude and your post offensive. Agentfroot asked a question, possibly inspired by some of the things I mentioned about Christ’s humanity, such as needing to go to the bathroom at inconvenient times. To this Christian, it’s a fair question and one I’ve wondered about myself. To me, denying Christ’s humanity is closer to blasphemy.

I have read many posts by you on a variety of religion-related subjects. In all of the posts I’ve read, I’ve never seen you exhibit a trace of compassion or love, only condemnation of those who disagree with you. You have had the temerity to cite Christ speaking about “Love the Lord Thy God with all thy heart”, etc. but skip what He said was the second commandment, “Love Thy neighbor as thyself.” I’ve read a lot of judgement from you, but little of love.

With regard to your post being “erased”, as has been pointed out, because of the Board’s recent outage, not only posts but entire threads were erased, including one asking for birthday wishes for a poster’s son, and one I started asking for friendship on a day when I felt like a failure. Your compassion in that thread was noted.

I’ve been hanging around this board for a couple of years now. I’ve seen threads which I know I don’t want to look at; I’ve seen threads asking for congratulations for things which I think are wrong. My response to them is simple. I don’t open them, or, if I do, I don’t respond to them. For a facetious example, I seem to recall a thread out in MPSIMS a while back that was titled something to the effect of “For Women Only. Men Keep Out.” Several of the gentlemen of the SDMB opened it anyway only to find out it was a very graphic thread about menstruation.

You cited Phillipians, “At the name of Jesus, every knee shall bow.” Your attitude comes across as “and if it doesn’t, I’ll be standing by with a baseball bat to make sure it does.” As agentfroot’s spiritual advisor and friend, I would like an apology, because, you see, if she has been “warped by the evil one” then either I had a hand in it or I failed to prevent it.

CJ

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To be fair to H4E, she was obviously under the influence of evil, herself. Look at the font color she used: Purple. As me and my MaDa companions have discovered, “Them’s the colors of evil!” (to quote Jefferson Davis).

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It is my prediction you won’t get it.

His4Ever is a grunt, with a heart fulla hate, & a mouth fulla pious words. An old song, but he still dances to the tune.

People like him make me frantic with rage. Sadly, they also sometimes alienate me so badly, I miss meeting nice people like you, cjhoworth . :slight_smile:

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cj: If you’re Catholic, you’re not “really Christian” per H4E.

Bosda: IIRC, H4E’s a woman.

H4E: Still at it, huh?

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Grunts is Grunts.

Just like “pigs is pigs” in that O. Henry story. But not cute or funny.

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H4E is the kind of friggin’ credulous, ain’t-never-read-a-book-'sides-the-Bible moron who helps perpetuate the stereotype of Christians as intolerant assholes. Her breathtaking ignorance about, well, EVERYTHING, makes dealing with her a trial.

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Don’t worry folks: I think H4E’s confidence about getting into heaven is a bit misplaced.

Can you imagine St. Pete, JC’s bouncer, letting such a boring, humourless twerp through the pearly gates?

Hey, if H4E is indicative of the quality of the clientele in heaven, I’m more than happy to head south.

And for H4E, for goodness sakes, lighten up woman! I believe that questions about Jesus’ puberty are entirely legitimate, and further, our ability to laugh at the notion of JC with zits and wet dreams is what makes us so delightfully human. It’s not blasphemy. And I feel that He would be chortling right along with us.

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Maybe she is.

Pretty horrifying, either way.

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The hell it is! Purple is a liturgical color, actually-used during the Lenten time. HA!!!

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Yes, Guin, but Purple is also the color of an evil cloak possessed by a demonic entity named Steve.

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kambucta: You just made me remember the film, “Last Temptation of Christ.” How much you feel like betting H4E wouldn’t be caught dead even contemplating watching that one?

[rhetorical query: I don’t bet.]

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A) If Jesus was at His computer right now, reading the puberty thread, he’d probably be laughing and reminiscing.

B) I was simply pondering the idea of Jesus as a teenager, and yes, it was partially because of what Cjhoworth told me about Him being human. Funny how my humanoid “spiritual advisor” (as oppose to the SPIRITUAL spiritual advisor) is a completely different religion, isn’t it?

C) Here’s the deal: You respect my beliefs, I’ll respect yours. One of my best friends is a true “bible thumper,” and she at least has the decency to put down the Jesus stick in my presence. I don’t care how much people talk about Jesus, as long as they don’t criticize my beliefs or claim theirs are superior. I like open-minded Christians. I avoid evangelists. At all costs.

D) Purple isn’t evil! PINK is evil! It’s the evillest color out there! Just look at Barbie!

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I will apologize because you desire it. My attitudes are not what you think they are. I found the things they were saying very disturbing and so I commented on them. If that’s a no no or you’re angry then I apologize. I’m not “holier than thou” or think I’m better than you. No one here has understood my motives or feelings yet. They’re NOT what you seem to think they are. I have no plans to take a baseball bat to anyone, that is a ludicrous comment. I simply quoted what the Scripture says will happen one day. If you don’t believe it, that’s your privilege. I resent being called the names I’ve been called and being considered a hateful unloving person. It’s not true. Just because I can’t say what you want me to or agree with everyone DOESN’T make me a hateful person. There seems to be some sort of “clique” on this board and if a person disagrees with them, everybody piles on.

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H4E: Concerning what we think are your attitudes–I suppose you don’t recall what Jesus, the Christ, said folk are judged by? IIRC, it’s by what comes out of their mouths. Ponder that.

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What’s IIRC mean?

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p.s. I’m not implying that I’m juding you as hellbound or heavenbound; just explaining where I get the iimpression you know naught about theology, or even JC for that matter.

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If I Recall Correctly.

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If you had poisted, “Talking about Jesus in such an irreverent way seems blasphemous to me,” this thread would not even exist. When you tell another poster “you have been warped by the evil one,” people tend to get the impression that you’re hateful and closeminded.

Hint: It’s possible to state your beliefs clearly, yet not be considered hateful. Try including YMMV (your mileage may vary), “Just my opinion,” here’s what I think", and so on. When you post, H4E, you give the impression that the Metatron has gone on vacation and left you as the interim Voice of God. If you stop acting like your ideas and your views are the unquestioned commandments from on high, and start acting more like just a person who acknowledges that her views on Scripture are just hers, and other people may view the same Scriptures and come away with entirely different ideas, then you might find that you’ll start getting a different reception.

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Darn.

You know, I was thinking of a way to break it to H4E gentle. I want to explain to her that she uses words like a baseball bat, not that she is gonna hit anyone with a baseball bat. It’s called a metaphor.

I have been watching the threads for a while now. I lurk alot.

As a Christian and a Catholic (oh, wait that doesn’t count…) I am offended. I apologize on her behalf, because her apologies seem less than sincere.

People who I have read for a long time, and delighted in their wit and cool under fire have been transformed into knee-jerk reactionaries lately. I can understand why. It doesn’t ever stop, does it?

His4Ever , look at it from a marketing perspective. Why would the likes of us, as sinners, want anything to do with the God of your understanding? He apparently can’t stand us? I don’t stay in the company of those who cannot stand me. Why would I want to be reminded that I am evil all of the time, especially when I perceive myself as a Good Person ™? What is the draw? Threats of fire and brimstone? How is that worse than the persecution that you hurl? There are some in here that would probably prefer an existence in Dante’s Inferno to what they deal with on a day-to-day basis from people who hate and fear them due to a lack of understanding.

<sigh>

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His4ever, there is a difference between saying, “I think you are wrong, and here’s why,” and “your minds are warped by the dark one.” And there is a difference between disagreeing with someone and calling them evil. Learn them.