There is this guy who lives somewhere out here (seen this truck a few times) drives a big old Coal-Roller, and on the back on his tailgate are the words, “I Eat Ass”
So, I guess he ain’t got a problem with hotdogs.
I don’t think it’s any worse for you to eat the sausage and smoke the cigarette every day. The hard part would be smoking just one cigarette a day.
The good thing about overindulging in sausages is that there’s no secondary wiener effect to take down those around you.
Unless they slip and fall due to all the grease from cooking wieners.
Well, I have demonstrated a disconcerting level of sensitivity to carcinogens getting up my ass [well, fine - colorectal cancer twice in a row =) ] and as it is a particularly fast growing type, I get a full on colonoscopy every year, I get quarterly bloodwork and I see my oncologist quarterly, I get 2 CT scans a year … and was told explicitly to avoid a whole range of chemicals that are commonly used in foods including the sorts of preservatives found in luncheon meats, sausages and the like. And very very very specifically to avoid ‘liquid smoke’ and smoke seasonings [including smoked paprika]
I do have recipes for various sausages, and large primal hunks of meat to use for sliced sandwich uses that don’t have all the chemicals - I do a sous vide turkey breast that is amazing, and a roast beef [also sous vide] that makes wicked good beef on weck [I also make the weck, heavy on the carroway and light on the rock salt] I bake breads twice a week that are ultra basic - flour, water, salt, yeast, whole milk and unsalted [sweet cream] butter. I favor King Arthur or Bob’s Red Mill products, I use a local knackers shop that sources pigs, cows, lambs and poultry from local farmers and have been known to buy whole skin on pork bellies and pure leaf lard for projects.
No doubt, in general most people can handle a certain level of pollutants in their bodies, but for those of us with a demonstrated sensitivity, we avoid screwing ourselves over =)
John Cougar Mellancamp would approve.
What about chicken nuggets every single day vs sausages every single day?
Very insightful response thank you.
Sorry to hear about your colon cancer; there are very few forms of cancer that suck more than that.
But, do you think you’d be likelier to get polyps from eating unhealthy hot dogs daily, or 1 cigarette per day?
Also, what was your first symptom that something had gone wrong with your colon?
There is no doubt that the statistics don’t lie. Cancer rates of all forms have been on the rise and it seems to be following wherever industrialization / processed foods took over natural / organic food taken straight from the earth to your mouth and no factory with processing involved.
I’m sure environment/pollution plays a big part in it also but it definitely is something in our diets and we are consuming something in larger quantities and frequency that is directly related to increased heart disease and cancer (the top 2 world killers outside of natural causes). But at the same time, it is still interesting to know some people seem to have an immunity. They smoke their entire lives and never get lung cancer but someone who does it for a couple years suddenly gets it and passes away. Same with eating processed or junk food. Some people seem to have basically lived off it their entire lives and never got cancer (maybe they have heart disease or obesity/diabetes). I’m sure the real answer is it’s a combination of a number of factors and this very complex combination is the result to why some people seem to get it worse and others never have that issue.
I read recently that Whiskey is actually good for you (in moderation of course). It’s loaded with antioxidants and a lady who I think lived to around 110 or something like that was asked what her secret was and she said she’d have a little glass of whiskey every night before bed. Now I’m sure it could easily be a thousand other factors not mentioned…maybe she just has good genes, maybe she ate collard greens too every day…maybe she had a life surrounded by love and happiness with 0 stress who knows…but I had no idea whiskey actually was loaded with antioxidants lol (so are fruits and vegetables I know).
As they say…if you drink a little whiskey before bed every night for a hundred years, you’ll live a long time.
Sausages - they smell better.
Do you have a cite for your claims (either that statistics do not lie or that cancer rates are on the rise)?
From here:
The risk of dying from cancer in the United States has decreased over the past 28 years according to annual statistics reported by the American Cancer Society (ACS). The cancer death rate for men and women combined fell 32% from its peak in 1991 to 2019, the most recent year for which data were available.
In the past 20 years, from 2001 to 2020, cancer death rates went down 27%, from 196.5 to 144.1 deaths per 100,000 population.
Wins the thread.
In addition to death rates from cancer dropping, cancer incidence (new diagnoses) has been declining in recent years as well.
There are multiple factors involved, but the continuing decline in percentage of people smoking is very likely important. Sausage consumption, not so much.
Fat and assorted chemical content. Though nicely cooked whole meat non formatted chicken would be reasonably OK. Better if it is home raised so one can control the diet =)
Thanks - but in general colorectal cancer is one of the slower moving forms [comparatively speaking, there is a reason the normal spacing is 5 years between colonoscopies] and for the most part, it got to stage 3 allmost unnoticed though for me it was a perfect storm of issues that apparently made it go from nothing to stage 3 in 4 years [serious stress, diabetes, potentially diet.]
One wouldn’t have colorectal issues from smoking [well, maybe if one was le Petomane and smoking up his ass …]
Wellp, to make a long story short [too late] and to get sort of TMI …
I had been on Byetta and after a couple years started having issues [I was ‘losing’ meats - started with pig, first sausage caused me nausea, then it was bacon, then ham then finally roast pork. Then it became beef, and then chicken - leaving me with fish, tofu and eggs as protein sources] so I went off byetta. Then victoza came out, and I was on it for about 2 years, then I started with the nausea issues. So we stopped victoza. Somewhere about the time I was starting Victoza - between 7 and 8 years ago, I was also having issues with the fat content of foods [something that had occasionally bothered me] which to my primary doc and I ascribed gallbladder issues.
Here is where it started getting bad. 8/15/15 an arsonist torched our house while we were in it [talk about stress overload!!!] and my ‘gallbladder issues’ got drastically worse - it was bad enough that within about 6 monnths, I had one of those large square cat litter buckets sitting by the bed and I was randomly vomiting, pretty much all food smells made me nauseated and life was absolutely miserable. Several ultrasounds showed nothing, so a colonoscopy was arranged for despite it only having been 4 years since my last one. A side issue was what I had thought were thrombosed hemerrhoids. Turns out that from the anal ring in for 15 cm, full depth [the entire thickness of the intestinal walls] and fill circumference was tumor. The external lumps were actually tumor making a break for the outside. We got it before it spread =)
See, my digestive issues were the tumor choking down my output from normal poop diameter to that of about a finger in diameter. When food cant get out the bottom, it goes out the top. The diarrhea was my body trying to get stuff out the bottom. THe little ‘appetite’ I did have was mainly because a small amount of food was able to be processed, so there was minimal space around breakfast time, but later the food wasn’t moving fast enough to clear stomach and intestine space, so it would sit in my stomach fermenting until vomit time. Yay.
So oncology time. We went nuclear with chemo and radiation [a wax free brazillian and butt suntan] and it seemed to have been beaten. 19 months later, it was back - a golfball sized lump with a finger looking appendage in the image made my roomie tell me that I had a butt gremlin - which it did sort of look like =) and back into chemo - at the 6th infusion point, back to CT where we determined it was actively growing during chemo so off to surgery. They basically field dressed me [just like a deer, but they sewed me back together with a stoma.] I go in quarterly for bloodwork and general health check.
I would say that if it were not for actively trying to diagnose what we thought was gallblladder issues, waiting 1 more year would have seen it metastesized. The digestive issues, other than the skinny pooping, which was also being masked by the diarrhea were easily explained as gallbladder or some other digestive issue. There was no blood in the poop, so I probably would have had a really horriffic experience if I were too young to be getting colonoscopies.
Not very many. I suspect the percentage of smokers in the 90+ age bracket is far, far lower than the percentage of smokers in the under-90 age bracket.
@Thudlow_Boink showed upthread that one cigarette a day is surprisingly bad for you, but hotdogsausageweinerfrankfurters are a problem, too. The “shady fillers” referenced by the OP aren’t really the problem: lips and assholes aren’t exactly prime cuts of meat, but they’re still meat, and if you can sneak that stuff past your brain, your digestive system won’t be able to tell them from ribeye. Instead, the main problem - the thing that makes cured meats considerably worse for you than uncured meats - is the curing. That is, dosing it with sodium nitrite, a salt that acts as a preservative while also making meat taste really good.
The link says that a couple of ounces a day of processed meats substantially bumps up your risk of colon cancer. A typical hot dog is about 2 ounces, so if the OP is talking about 5 links a day, figure maybe one at breakfast, two at lunch, and two more at dinner. Ten ounces per day. While I would probably enjoy an all-sausage diet more (at first) than being forced to smoke one cigarette a day, I’d wager it would kill me sooner than the cigarettes.
