What issues would you most like to see debated in...

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the upcoming presidential campaign debates?

I know the election is aways away, but I’d be curious about the things you feel most strongly about. Listed in order of terms of their importance, my choices would be:

1.) Iraq troop withdrawel. (Get them out as soon as possible.)

2.) Illegal alliens. (Was at a large super-market the other night and probably of all the many hundreds of people there, a good 95% were illegals.)

3.) A foreign policy Admendment that makes sense. (It’s the lack of one that causes us to be in a muck field with all these wars and screwball entanglements. Also, I’m fed up with our hard-earned $$ going to other countries because of politicians taking us for granted.)

4.) Fossil fuel replacement. (We need to build lots of nuclear plants, as the technology to make them safer is said to be much better these days. And, we need to focus our fabulous technological wherewithal on creating motors for transportation that replace the internal combustion engine. It should have been done a long time ago, the smelly things.)

  1. Crime. (Put the teeth into the Law. Build more prisons, have the prisoners help build them.)

  2. Pornography. (Get rid of it. I say that as one whose been addicted to it for years, and trust me – IT’S EVIL! Actually, THIS should be listed at #1.)

  3. Use that politically-driven Ad Council to drop their current agenda and have them start pumping out this message over the airwaves instead: “There are at least 11 forms of birth control. Please, please, please, for the sake of the world, STOP having children if you can’t afford them. This ad is brought to you by the Ad Council.”

That’s it for now. Please feel free to respond with a comment or suggestion, and I’ll look at them later. Thanks!!! :slight_smile:

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[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
6. Pornography. (Get rid of it. I say that as one whose been addicted to it for years, and trust me – IT’S EVIL! Actually, THIS should be listed at #1.)

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:eek: You’re joking, right??

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  1. The need for class war in America. Actually, there’s no “need” as we’ve been having a class war since 1980 at least – but only the ruling class has been fighting it. What we need is a consciously two-sided class war.
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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]
8) The need for class war in America. Actually, there’s no “need” as we’ve been having a class war since 1980 at least – but only the ruling class has been fighting it. What we need is a consciously two-sided class war.
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Sorry BrainGlutton you missed out on the late 19th and early 20th century :(.

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[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
5. Crime. (Put the teeth into the Law. Build more prisons, have the prisoners help build them.)
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We have more prisons than just about anywhere else; we might be #1 by now for all I know. <sarcasm> so far it’s worked perfectly <sarcasm>

[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
6. Pornography. (Get rid of it. I say that as one whose been addicted to it for years, and trust me – IT’S EVIL! Actually, THIS should be listed at #1.)
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No, it’s not.

I propose this subject : “The average Republican : Evil, or just stupid ?”

Just to watch their reactions, mind.

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]
I propose this subject : “The average Republican : Evil, or just stupid ?”

Just to watch their reactions, mind.
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Followed up by “Democrats who don’t actually want to get elected: Stupid, or just incompetent?”

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[QUOTE=Martin Hyde]
Followed up by “Democrats who don’t actually want to get elected: Stupid, or just incompetent?”
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“Spineless” should fit in there somewhere.

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]
“Spineless” should fit in there somewhere.
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No way. It takes a ton of backbone to throw away any chance at election just to make a meaningless political point.

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[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
2.) Illegal alliens. (Was at a large super-market the other night and probably of all the many hundreds of people there, a good 95% were illegals.)
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Did you ask for green cards?

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Iraq, obviously. It’s the most important issue of the day and everything else is seemingly meaningless in the shadow of this meat grinder. Aside from that, the usual: universal healthcare, education, environmental science (or, really, science in general – it’s good to weed out the evolution denying lunatics early, see: recent Republican debates), and foreign policy.

Be careful not to fall into the trap of thinking this matters more than a ceremonial Kabuki play, though. The candidates can say whatever they want. As an example, Bush said some of the ‘right’ things in 2000 but he had other motives once sworn in.

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[QUOTE=DMC]
Did you ask for green cards?
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What, you don’t tattoo your legal aliens on the wrist? Makes them easier to spot.

Yeah, it made me go WTF too.

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[QUOTE=DMC]
Did you ask for green cards?
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Yes, I did, but they didn’t understand me.

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[QUOTE=Secret Volcano Lair]
:eek: You’re joking, right??
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No.

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[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
3.) A foreign policy Admendment that makes sense. (It’s the lack of one that causes us to be in a muck field with all these wars and screwball entanglements. Also, I’m fed up with our hard-earned $$ going to other countries because of politicians taking us for granted.)
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:confused: A constitutional amendment governing foreign policy? How would you word it?

[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
5. Crime. (Put the teeth into the Law. Build more prisons, have the prisoners help build them.)
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Are you aware that the U.S. already has one of the world’s highest incarceration rates?

[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
6. Pornography. (Get rid of it. I say that as one whose been addicted to it for years, and trust me – IT’S EVIL! Actually, THIS should be listed at #1.)
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:mad: When you pry my cold, dead fingers off my penis!

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This board had almost changed my mind America has a country and then I see something like this. I don’t know you GuyNblueJeans but I don’t like your politics.

[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
1.) Iraq troop withdrawel. (Get them out as soon as possible.)
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Is this really a major issue? It was never going to be a permanant invasion and the coalition forces pull out they’ll just end up invading someone else anyway. It’s not like the don’t have a history of it. And we know they’ve got some targets lined up.

[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
2.) Illegal alliens. (Was at a large super-market the other night and probably of all the many hundreds of people there, a good 95% were illegals.)
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Slavery did wonders for the Roman empire’s economy and the subject you’re talking about is only one or two steps removed. Maybe you shouldn’t be so quick to denounce it! :stuck_out_tongue:

[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
3.) A foreign policy Admendment that makes sense. (It’s the lack of one that causes us to be in a muck field with all these wars and screwball entanglements. Also, I’m fed up with our hard-earned $$ going to other countries because of politicians taking us for granted.)
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From what I’ve heard politicians aren’t going to let a small thing like a constitution get in the way of their plans. Don’t elect war-mongers would be a better bet than an amendment.

[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
4.) Fossil fuel replacement. (We need to build lots of nuclear plants, as the technology to make them safer is said to be much better these days. And, we need to focus our fabulous technological wherewithal on creating motors for transportation that replace the internal combustion engine. It should have been done a long time ago, the smelly things.)
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I gotta agree on this one but I don’t see the need for a costly and damaging revolution. A gradual change in emphasis is all that’s needed. And lets get the prisoners doing something useful, like building the powerplants!

[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
5. Crime. (Put the teeth into the Law. Build more prisons, have the prisoners help build them.)
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That tactic will only work so far. How much of your $$s are you willing to spend. There comes a time when you’ve gotta look at alternatives too. But if the prisons are really overcrowded, then yeah. build some more. I say we make really nice ones so we can sell them as luxury housing after the crime rate drops as a result of the extra prisons.

[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
6. Pornography. (Get rid of it. I say that as one whose been addicted to it for years, and trust me – IT’S EVIL! Actually, THIS should be listed at #1.)
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You may think your experience makes you qualified to say this, but as you’re a confessed addict (or ex addict) you’re not exactly coming from an objective view point. Leave the decision to the politicians. They’re all wankers anyway.

[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
7. Use that politically-driven Ad Council to drop their current agenda and have them start pumping out this message over the airwaves instead: “There are at least 11 forms of birth control. Please, please, please, for the sake of the world, STOP having children if you can’t afford them. This ad is brought to you by the Ad Council.”
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I’m sure there are better options. Donating the excess to McDonalds. Labour camps. Experimenting with neural interactions to try and build a version of ‘The Matrix’ in order to run the world’s most complex computer than can design a cure for cancer. ‘Stop having them’ is dull and especially hard if you wanna stop the porn.

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[QUOTE=essell]
Is this really a major issue? It was never going to be a permanant invasion . . .
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:dubious: Can you say “enduring bases”?

No?

How about “coaling station”?

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Here are a few questions that I’d like to see asked. Generally they apply to just about any candidate.

  1. You claim that you want to see a federal balanced budget, yet you also have supported massive pork barrel spending in your district. How do you explain this contradiction?

  2. What would you do to stop prison rape?

  3. We spend over $700,000,000,000 a year for a military that can’t even beat a few insurgents in Iraq. Many other industrialized countries spend nothing or almost nothing on their military, and they don’t suffer any negative consequences as a result. Why, then, do we spend that $700,000,000,000?

  4. Holy Grail or Life of Brian?

  5. Do you at all regret the fact that a million people have died in the war in Iraq?

  6. Can you say something spontaneous?

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[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
Yes, I did, but they didn’t understand me.
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Then how do you know they were illegal aliens?

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[QUOTE=essell]
Is this really a major issue? It was never going to be a permanant invasion and the coalition forces pull out they’ll just end up invading someone else anyway.
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As BrainGlutton pointed out, this was most certainly intended to be a permanent occupation. And this war is no longer at all popular, so it is a major issue.

[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]
:mad: When you pry my cold, dead fingers off my penis!
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“You’ll get my porn when you pry it from my warm, sticky fingers !”

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[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
6. Pornography. (Get rid of it. I say that as one whose been addicted to it for years, and trust me – IT’S EVIL! Actually, THIS should be listed at #1.)
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Why should your addiction deprive me of wanking material?