Choice is exactly that. That the choice is left up to the woman. You can’t be denied abortion and you can’t be forced to have one. The position is that the choice lies with the woman and her doctor. No one else.
This is EXACTLY how Trump supporters rationalize their support for, easily, the most detestable person to hold a nomination since Goldwater, at least. The “aw, shucks, he ain’t that bad it’s all for show he don’t really mean it that way you’re just twisting his words he’s being sarcastic, blah, blah” is a bullshit argument for hypocrites trying to defend the indefensible. Virtually everyone on this thread could come up with 50 examples off the top of their head of things Trump has said or done that, if said or done by a Democrat, would disqualify him in the mind of a Trump supporter.
And if Trump had mishandled classified information there would be Dems screaming about how that should be disqualifying and he should be in jail. There’s hypocrisy on both sides.
Try taking some cocaine in front of the police to see how much real control you have over “your” body.
Depends of if he’s careless, blurts out classified information at a rally or sells it to Putin.
It’s a little embarrassing, seeing an analogy fail so utterly. My condolences.
She’s hovering in the low 30’s% in ‘honest and trustworthy’. The rest must include a fair chunk of people who are going to vote for her (as less bad than Trump overall) besides a lot of people who are going to vote for Trump just as less bad than she is: it’s very far beyond ‘his followers’, unless you’re just speaking of aspects in which his followers think she’s more dishonest than the rest of the ~70% thinks.
One explanation is mass psychosis. Another is ‘Faux News’… except a tiny proportion of voters watch Fox and even talk radio’s audience is nothing like 2/3’s of the electorate. An alternate explanation is that it’s just being kind of cute to ask why most people think Hillary Clinton is not very honest. 
I don’t recall too many demands for the jailing of Bush or his cronies when 22 million emails “disappeared” from private RNC servers during the investigation of his Justice Department. Not too many demands for his head when he overlooked a dozen opportunities to prevent 9/11 even though that was just a bit more serious than Benghazi. Every politician has issues his/her opponents can point to as disqualifying. And every politician’s supporters have to overlook flaws they might not in an opposing candidate. But Trump is on a different plane of existence in this regard, as are his supporters. Suggesting there’s equal hypocrisy on both sides is another false equivalency that’s allowed this fraud to get this far.
And those 50 examples I could cite about Trump would also keep me from voting for Hillary, or anyone else.
What an amusing counterfactual. Get back to me when it has any basis in reality.
Remember when the democrats got really really pissed about Alberto Gonzales doing, well, exactly this?
No?
Me neither.
You can pretend that, were the sides reversed, the results would be exactly mirrored. But that concept is missing one key fact: the democratic party hasn’t collectively gone completely off the fucking deep end. The republican party has, and if you can’t see that, maybe I should introduce you to Donald Trump, your current nominee. :mad: You might as well claim that were Trump the democratic nominee, we would be ignoring all the things we pillory him for. That just ain’t so. You know how I know? Because democrats and liberals go after Clinton for the same shit on a far lesser scale as well.
She was first elected to the Senate in 2000. And didn’t run for president until 2008. So she was elected to the seat twice, with an even bigger margin the second time, both time with lots of support from upstate New York, only leaving to become Secretary of State for Obama. And she still lives in the state. Doesn’t really seem like that bad a job of being a resident of the state.
Persons on this board who have actual experience with protocols for classified information have repeatedly stated that this sort of thing is almost never prosecuted, so your speculation remains just that: pure speculation. But as we know, Mr. Trump has not really ever had the chance to mishandle classified information, so who can say what might happen?
This election is like a football game … with two goal post.
One goal post is November 8th, 2016 … the other goal post is January 20th, 2017
in the middle is a playing field of huge proportions with the two well known players of Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump along with lesser known players, but the most important players are the field judges and the head referee and the lines men that move the chains.
The Supreme Court and the US Congress will decide the winner, but not unitll the fat lady sings with her excuses of this all being one big mistake.
I left out the coach for each team, but you know who they are by now, right?
The play by play people are CNN, Fox, ABC, CBS and NBC …
Whatever is going to happen has never happened before … you will be shocked, because it is a battle for what we think. It always has been a battle, but it is usually only in hindsight that we can see it.
May the best person win … notice I said the best person and I do not think it is in the best interest of this country for it to be Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. :eek:
Does anyone ELSE want to announce their candidacy for the next Official Chicken Little?
I didn’t say the sky is falling yet … did I? Just planting a seed thought that is all …
If nothing happens I will slink back into the cave I came from 
This is kind of where I am. Trump isn’t really lying. He’s just wrong on all the facts. A lot of the times he is wrong because he massively exaggerates something, so in fact what he says may contain a kernel of truth. Other times he distorts the truth in a ridiculous way.
He’s kind of like a regular person in that he is incredibly biased and he only listens to things that support his preconceived notions, and on top of that forgets most of the details. Add in his other attributes and that makes him a very dangerous person.
Without condoning prevarication, can’t we agree that statements like “I was the only candidate to promise no tax increase on the middle-class”, even if false, seem more like campaign bluster than offensive lies? Yet this claim appears multiple times in those lists.
If such routine campaign bluster counts as a “lie,” I think almost every single statement Trump utters would count as a lie.
Here’s all you need to know about what lies Hillary has been caught in:
“Hillary lied about … You know, she’s such a liar! She lies all the time. Everybody knows that!”
Or, at least, that’s what it looks like, judging from my Facebook feed.
She’s thesecond-most honest pol on the national stage, only barely beaten out by Obama.
“Facts are the enemy of truth!” - Don Quixote
She did not lie about Benghazi:
**She never said it was in response to the video. **