For the 2 or so remaining Trump supporters on this forum, how do you reconcile your support with something this damning? How do you expect ‘your man’ to do what you want when his view of reality appears to be distorted to be what he wants it to be instead of the truth?
I don’t think he will be removed from office by the Senate. While investigations may be ongoing, I doubt a smoking gun, at least one smoking *enough *for Republican senators to act, will ever be found.
But he does in fact appear to be a liar. On a scale far beyond others like Hillary…
It’s a question of priorities. For example when Trump delivers peace in the Middle East (his son-in-law Jason Kushner is in charge of that) Dopers will mostly forget about his lying.
To answer your question, Trump supporters here or anywhere else will respond to this as being “fake news”. They are a group of people who seem to be amazingly uninfluenced by facts or reality.
It’s make-believe. They make themselves believe. For them, this is just another TV show. They aren’t participating in a democracy–they’re watching The Apprentice. They’re too mentally lazy to learn about how governance actually works.
If the media had been 1/100th as interested in calling them on all their lies and shenanigans, the Clintons would dwarf Trump. It’s most amusing to see how the media has suddenly become so fixated on truth and the facts now that Trump is in office.
Always with the yeah-butt. Can’t ever just admit that Trump is a pathological liar and leave it at that. As if any lies Clintons ever told absolves Trump of any wrong doing.
Weak sauce, sister. Where’s the list of their lies (we’ll even let you include both of them, because we’re nice that way)? Let’s see, Bill lied about having sex with an intern; Hillary lied (at least possibly) about being under fire once as Secretary of State. What else you got?
Some of 45’s lies may not be important, it’s true, but look at the number of them! I gave up counting, but there must be hundreds.
Well, I just meant in the linked list in the OP, covering his tenure so far, not per day. There are even days that don’t appear in the list, so apparently he doesn’t actually tell lies publicly every single day.
I have a hard time believing anyone can be okay with all the lies I’ve seen from Trump. It’s right there in front of us. You can’t keep saying ‘fake news’ when the lies are coming right from him and we have access, like the twitter business or all these interviews and recordings from rallies and meetings and the lies about the recordings of those meetings.
This is generally excused by hearkening back twenty years ago with those “yes-buts” mentioned previously. But what I’m also seeing is a reminder that a “righteous lie” is acceptable. This is biblical. Paul says sometimes it’s better to lie if it increases God’s glory. And even our own VP says his hope is to bring this country to God’s Kingdom. So lies will be told, and excuses will be made. Anything to glorify their particular god or cause. We all do it, but this is madness. There is no rational excuse for all this. You must really be getting something good out of this man to keep excusing his behavior.
All right. Want to play a fun little game? Let’s go lie for lie. You name one lie from Clinton, I name one lie from Trump. I’ll make it even easier for you - my lies have to be unique, meaning that if Clinton repeated a lie on numerous occasions, I have to come up with a new lie from Trump each time. And even easier: my lies have to be of at least similar magnitude or type. So it’s not enough to point out that Trump lied about what he had for breakfast if Clinton lied about what happened in Benghazi.
Fun game, right? You should have a huge advantage - I have a presidential campaign and half a year of being president to work off of, you have a multi-decadal political career. Should be easy, right? Y’wanna start, or should I?
