It’s true, part 2 isn’t totally irredeemable. Although it all but abandons the dream sequence killings that are the heart of the series, that bit at the beginning with the school bus teetering on a rock spire over a pit of fire was pretty damn cool and right up there with the best dream sequences of the entire series.
Was New Nightmare #7?
The genius of that one was that it really understood the audience. Instead of a teenager trying to save themself and their friends, it was a mother trying to save her baby.
I saw the original when I was a teenager and New Nightmare came out when my son was about 4 months old. It really hit home how Wes Craven knew where his original audience would be.
I thought this movie was a riot. It was pretty much exactly what I expected it to be, except I figured out the entire plot about ten minutes into the movie and didn’t need it explained to me by four seperate characters. Still, I wasn’t expecting an intellectual screenplay, just mayhem. Well worth the admission price in my book.
And IMO Jason thought he was pulling his mother’s head out at the end, we knew it was Freddy, though…
Quick question to anybody who wants to help out an one-time fan. What is the scoop with Jason? I vaguely remember the killer was his Mom, and then him, and then some other kid he possessed, and then… well, they lost me. Now, I know logical coherence and internal consistency are a lot to ask from this particular genre, but could somebody let me know who Jason is, what his backstory is, and how is it that he is nigh buy indestructable? Thanks.
Hamlet, who saw Elm Street and Dream Warrior in the theater way back when.
Can’t remember if I ever saw Part 2. Of what homoerotic imagery are you speaking?
Yeah I saw Freddy vs. Jason yesterday - didn’t think I was going to but a buddy wanted to check out a newly remodeled theater. What a fun movie!
This review from the always-hilarious X-Entertainment site will explain all you need to know about the homoeroticism (and homophobia) of NoES, Part 2: Freddy’s Revenge:
http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/0774/index.html
Enjoy!
So is this basically the American version of Godzilla Vs. Mothra?
I like the fact that they brought the T and A back. Big time.
I liked when not-Beyonce was ragging on Freddy, especially the end of that bit.
I better box this, just in case:
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[li]The lead character has the gender-neutral name “Jesse”, and he screams like a girl. A lot.[/li][li]Close-ups of Jesse’s pelvis as he butt-bumps his drawers closed during the “unpacking” montage. He also does a “yankin’ my crank” dance step during this.[/li][li]Exchange between Jesse and his close friend Grady (who we see more of in the movie than Jesse’s girlfriend): “Do you remember your dreams?” “Only the wet ones.”[/li][li]Yet another exchange: Jesse - “Something is trying to get inside my body.” Grady - “Yeah, she’s female and she’s waiting for you in the cabana. And you wanna sleep with me.”[/li][li]And then there’s the major stuff, like the scene where Jesse wanders away from home at night, winds up in a “leather bar”, and is caught there by his coach. Coach appears to be a regular.[/li][li]Right after that, Coach gets killed. Here’s how: some jump ropes drag him into the shower and tie him to the pipes. He is then stripped naked, and wet towels whip his pasty middle-aged male ass (with close-ups) before Freddy gives him the glove.[/li][li]In total, there are two shots of male ass (Grady pulls down Jesse’s pants during a baseball game. Oh that kid!), and no breasts.[/li][/ul]
Stuff like that. I didn’t really pay much attention the first time I saw it, when I was like 13, but watching it again now…yikes. Not the usual way a slasher film is made.
Yup. It was a very good movie, I think. It really overcame the source material in a very Blair Witch-ey way, and was IMO better than the first one (and all the others, since everyone says they’re worse; I’ve only seen Part 1).
As far as I know from websites read out of curiosity, when I realised I’ve never actually seen a Friday the 13th movie: In the first movie his mother’s doing the killing cause she thinks he was drownded, in the 2nd he wasn’t really waterlogged and kills everyone that killed his mum. 3 and 4 are similiar and in 4 he’s killed as well. In 5 there’s an imposter, I’m not too sure about that one since all the websites pretend it never existed. In 6 he’s brought back to life as a zombie, so his indrestructibility from there on out is because he’s undead.