What perks do hot women get?

In My Humble Opinion
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Right. I think it’s more of a gender thing than a hotness thing. I’m not hot, I don’t get speeding tickets and I’ve been pulled over so many times for speeding that I’ve modified my driving habits. I don’t stop speeding of course, I’m just more aware of speed traps, and speed less often and am more aware of my surroundings in unfamiliar areas. I basically drive to avoid being pulled over these days. In the jillion times I’ve been pulled over in the past, I’ve only been ticketed once, and I knew for a fact when I saw the cop get out of my car that there was no charming my way out of anything. He was just plain fucking mean. Perhaps a hot woman could have weaseled her way out of that particular ticket? We’ll never know.

I recently had a conversation with a male friend about the same exact store wherein he complained about the spectacularly shitty service and asked, “Who do you have to bribe to have someone help you out there? The store is tinier than my living room, so what gives?” I’ve been in this store three separate times, and each time, even though they were busy, someone helped me right away. Once they were very busy, so the person in the front of the store who was helping another customer at the time made sure to tell me, “Miss, I’ll be with you in a moment.” I don’t mind waiting, but I do mind being ignored altogether, so that was nice. Another store guy then said, “I can help you right now,” when another (male) customer said, “I was here first.” So the store guy assisted the male customer, and apologized to me for the wait.

This is just one anecdote which proves fuckall, but this overall trend is not uncommon in my experiences. My female friends and relatives and I seem to get treated better everywhere we go than our male counterparts. I’ve known many a male to gripe about how he has to earn good will, whereas with with me (and other chicks), it’s just bestowed immediately.

Shit, if I were hot, maybe I’d get free booze (at places other than bars), groceries and clothes at the department store, and all kinds of crazy shit.

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Of course, for every example like this, there are examples of women - attractive or not - who were treated like an idiot or worse by somebody who doesn’t respect them. Women - have you ever been in a store with a guy and found that the clerk directed all the answers to the guy even though you’re obviously the one trying to make a purchase? In my experience that never happens to guys but it’s pretty common when I’m with a woman for her to be ignored.

My experience has been that you can get a heck of a lot out of people just by knowing how, and I don’t even have a vagina. If nothing else, dress well, smile, and be sincerely friendly. Really attractive women happen to be uncommonly good at being friendly and nice to people, but it’s something everyone can do. You’ll get a lot more out of people than the average person does just by being nice. Rarely you need a different strategy. Sometimes you just have to be a prick to get what you want, but it’s rare.

It’s definitely possible there are heights of free stuff I can’t attain due to being a man but I gotta say I don’t feel like I’m missing out.

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Me.

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Hot young women get to marry rich old geezers.

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I hear stories like his all the time, and I must say, I’m never convinced it’s *entirely *about gender. There is the perception out there that women don’t know anything about fancy technologies, but this assumption while shopping at Best Buy (or wherever) can be debunked fairly quickly if the woman demonstrates she knows what she’s talking about. Yes, it is unfortunate that this is often the assumption in the first place, but I’ve found in my admittedly limited experiences, if the woman initiates the conversation with the salesperson, and is clearly knowledgeable, the “Let’s talk to the man!” crap never happens.

To use more anecdotes (which I know don’t prove shit, but here we are), when I used to go shopping with my 80 year old dad, sales clerks would always address me, as if my father were some senile, old coot, incapable of understanding simple English. After my dad would address the clerk directly, proving he wasn’t some shit-for-brains, barely sentient octogenarian, the conversation would focus on him. My mother, who is also old but actually is clueless (love her dearly), but not so clueless that she doesn’t realize she doesn’t know what she’s talking about, drags us along on expensive shopping missions to make sure she doesn’t get taken. It doesn’t take the sales rep to realize, between all the general confusion that ma exhibits and her asking us questions, that the conversation is best had between him and me, or whoever is helping my mom shop.

What is the point of this rambling post? That sales people will often direct their pitch at who they perceive to be the most knowledgeable person around. Unfortunately, that person can automatically be assumed to be the male person (or the young person, whatever). It is not necessarily a gender issue. It is a perceived cluelessness issue. If the perception is inaccurate, it can be overturned within three sentences, or the seemingly incompetent (old) woman can cut the shit right away, engage the sales guy right away and establish, “Hey, you’re talking to me” before he even has the chance to direct his spiel to the youngest male around.

So I guess I’m not disagreeing with you ultimately. Sometimes women, because they are women, are not getting the best customer service right away. They have to establish competence, which most men do not. But hey, at least sales clerks are more eager to speak with us, even if it is to assume we don’t know what we’re talking about. Gotta look at the bright side, you know.

if anyone cares, I’ve never, ever, had a salesperson speak with the male who accompanied me when I was making the purchase. I’d probably get pissed if it happened.

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I’m reminded of a news story I read some years ago about female police officers. A female highway patrol officer quoted in it mentioned she found it enormously amusing to pull over someone and find it to be a pretty young woman, primping and preening herself in anticipation of flirting her way out of a ticket. Until she realizes it’s a policewoman she’s dealing with, and promptly deflates and becomes very cooperative.

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Sadly, my boyish charm wasn’t enough to get me out of tickets the two times I got pulled over by female cops, either.

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I’m a guy. Even as a guy I never considered myself on the level of “Hawt” where women fall all over themselves but still…

One time as a teenager I got myself a job at an Italian restaurant. The manager who hired me put me to work in the kitchen.

Later on that night, as I’m sweat’n away washing dishes, the owner drops by. He walks in the kitchen, he immediately sees me and the with a heavy italian accent he starts to go off on the manager: “Hey! Whatsa goin’ on? whadaya got him back here for wash’n the dishes? Look at him, he’sa beautiful! He should be wait’n tables!” gush

The next night I started waiting tables.

I wish I had more stories like this but I don’t. No acounting for taste I guess,

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My mother was a lifelong leadfoot. She got stopped, but she never got a speeding ticket–until she was 58 years old!

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Well, Italians are going to be less hesitant to recognize and admit to the beauty of another man. That’s a different kind of culture. Men kiss each other on the cheek. An American guy, unless he was homosexual, would probably never say anything like that, out of fear of being called gay.

Attractive women definitely have an easier time being hired as waitstaff.

Decades ago this stuff would have been seen as trivial. “Waitresses? Receptionists? Secretaries? So what if pretty women have an advantage getting those kind of jobs - they’re demeaning any stupid anyway!” But today, in 2009, with the economy in the piss-pot and college graduates scrambling for even the shittiest jobs, that’s nothing to scoff about.

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I agree with the OP, I’ve never seen it soley due to looks.

BUT…

I have seen it a lot if a girl is nice looking and fun to be with. I knew a girl Debbie, she was just fun to be around. I knew another girl Renee who got away with murder, she was very pretty, but she was also fun with a great personality.

I worked with Renee, we were young and she was a front desk clerk, and men would bring her stuff. Once a guy checked in and he had a bag of McDonalds and Renee jokingly said “I can’t check you in till you give me some of your french fries.” He laughed checked in then went and bought her french fries and gave them to her.

She would get flowers and most of the comment cards were directed at Renee. And there were others just a friendly or even prettier, but Renee had the combo.

I think THAT is what gets women and to a lesser degree men, gifts and such. It’s not like on TV where it’s based on looks alone, it’s a combo of nice looking with some personality to make the person feel good about her/himself that gets the person gifts and such

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As so often happens, the Onion has already covered this :-

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This has happened a few times. Even if I’m asking the questions computer salespersons direct their answers to my husband - until he makes it painfully clear he has no idea what they are talking about.

But back to the thread. I can think of two examples of young women trading on their hotness. One of my husband’s nieces is very attractive in an artifcial Paris Hilton way. A few months ago she was stunned at a petrol station when she asked the worker to pump the gas for her & was told to “do it yourself.” She had been driving for 4 years & never had to do that.

The other - i worked for a “rep”. I really liked her but personally didn’t think she was that attractive. She looked a lot like Jennifer Aniston & I don’t think she is particularly goodlooking either. But she really charmed the men & her incompetence was put up with for a long time. But the fact is its a hard old world out there & when she started arriving at stores 3 days late she was fired.

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It’s a turn of phrase, a hyperbolic way of saying “becoming totally distracted to the exclusion of everything else”.

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Just last week, I walked into a door because i was checking out this really premo babe. I can see it happening. Sometimes, it’s the weather in combination with the babe.
I also believe that competence at work will be viewed through the filter of ones attractiveness. If I screw up at work on my 2nd week at a job, I’m an incompetent old man. If a hot babe does it, ‘she’s just learning the job.’ Now, to be honest, I’d think the same thing, and fire the person that was like me, and keep the babe, but that’s not at issue.
Clerks, speaking to males in the presence of a woman, are not dissing the female-they are doing this out of a sense of self preservation-who knows what Bubba will do if you are paying too much attention to his woman? I’ve done this numerous times:“Eyes off of those tits, self-act like you care if he strokes out, or not…force yourself to act like you don’t want him in somebody’s car trunk…this idiot knows that he will never get this lucky again, so who knows what he’d do to some interloper…” Leave the big baboon at home, and then see how ignored the hot ones are.

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I agree with you that it’s not just about sex. In fact, I would say the relative personalities of the people involved has a lot to do with it. Unless your online personality is all a sham, I’m not surprised salespeople don’t do it to you. But in my experience, just establishing competency isn’t enough for most women. I’m not sure exactly what’s missing - confidence and forcefulness?

For what it’s worth, I don’t find the phenomenon to be limited to male salesmen or to technical items. If I’m with a woman while she’s buying curtains, sure they’re going to talk to her. But something that’s still not typically masculine, but expensive like a couch? I’ve had questions directed at me even when I tried to make it obvious it wasn’t my couch and I wasn’t living with her.

I really didn’t mean to take the thread on a sidetrack. I was just trying to say, if this ever happened to me it would annoy the shit out of me. Totally not worth the free French fries.

Or to get to the point more directly, I think getting out of a speeding ticket is a better example of a perk than getting a free treat, unless you happen to be 8. As a man, when I’m charming or schmoozing someone into something I’m usually trying to get them to ignore a rule I find inconvenient or make a special exception I want, and I’m remarkably successful at it just be being friendly and charming. On the other hand nobody buys me French fries.

So if the question is, on the margin, what little treats do hot women get - that’s fine way to go. I’m just not convinced there are many **meaningful **perks that average women and men can’t get by being friendly and charming and knowing how to interact with people to get what they want.

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HPV?

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Those broads tend to be the best salespeople. Of course they have to be competent as well, but the most successful business developers in my business (gov contracting) are hot chicks.

Mainly because most Government decisionmakers are 40-50 yr old white dudes with a slumpbuster back home, and they love the attention they think they’re getting.

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I’ve never walked into a lamppost, but I have actually walked into doors and walls a couple of times because I was checking out a girl. Of course, my spatial awareness is poor, and it’s entirely possible I would have walked into the wall or door anyway.