My question: there have been several well publicized incidents of (male) pedophiles keeping up their nefarious activities, into their seventies. Anybody know why? Seems like interest in sex wanes as one ages-but for pedophiles, not so much.
This is the point of jury nullfication. If you’re on the jury of someone charged with what you consider a bad law, they you can say he’s not guilty.
There have been several well publicized incidents of regular guys remaining horny well into their seventies and fathering children at that age, too. There’s even a whole wing of the pharmaceutical industry devoted to helping men keep up their nefarious activities in their dotage.
I think your impression is a good example of selection bias, in other words.
This is a big doper pile on every time. But ,we know that some people are wired a bit differently. What does a guy who only gets turned on by young girls do? I do not believe that they want to do it but what if thats who they are?
On one hand we can not sacrifice our kids to satisfy them . On the other hand they are likely to get into the legal system. Can they be reprogrammed. ? If not what ? Jail at the first contact is an ugly and expensive solution. I got no answers. I think none really exist.
Do trials that hinge on the recovered memories of a person who was eight at the time of the alleged attack count?
The point of jury nullification is to get someone to jettison their obligation as a juror. The appropriate (at least in theory) body to determine the “goodness” (constitutionality) of a law is not the trial court’s jury.
Death!
Death to rapists, child rapists, killers, robbers, etc. If you demonstrate your willingness to commit violent acts, we should demonstrate our willingness to put you down like the worthless animal you are.
Would you keep an animal in a cage until it died if it chewed off a child’s face? Why would you do that to a human that did essentially the same thing with a shotgun or a broken bottle?
Put 'em down!
At least you’re consistent.
Then they shouldn’t indulge their desires. I suspect that the number of people with pedophiliac urges is much larger than the number of actual pedophiles; I’d expect most people with desires in that direction never go farther than fantasising, for the obvious moral reasons. The people who actually molest children are those how won’t or can’t control themselves.
As for what to do with them ? Lifetime institutionalization of some kind, whether it’s a prison or mental hospital. NOT executions; given the sheer hysteria on this subject, that’s begging for innocent people to be executed.
Be that as it may, doesn’t the jury represent an opportunity for one’s peers to recognize and curtail prosecutorial injustice? Without this final check, why bother with a jury system at all - have guilt determined by a judge or panel of judges who can decide solely on the basis of legal texts and precedents. I’d like the think that if a law was passed that sought to punish a particular ethnic group, twelve people could still declare it to be bullshit, well before it had to crawl its way through the laborious constitutional vetting process.
Considering the likelihood of emotional and psychological trauma, I think we’re best off treating rape as a crime almost as heinous as murder. Telling a person who’s been raped that they have probably sustained serious injury is far and away different from implying that they are somehow “spoiled” or “ruined”.
It took us a long time to get rape, in all its myriad forms, taken seriously by law enforcement and society in general. Please don’t diminish that.
Thanks. And why attach ‘serial’ to it? One rape, one death. Why wait until they have a string of victims, some possibly murdered? Just put 'em down.
Because they’re not animals. If they’re a danger to society, then lock them up and consider some options that may result in their rehabilitation.
Death Penalty.
It is totally unfair to the taxpayers to require them to keep a walking piece of shit alive for another 40 years at public expense.
You’re aware that the death penalty costs the taxpayer more money, aren’t you?
I expect under Clotha’s scheme, the appeals process consists of marching the condemned out back and a-peeling his head off.
Some people would say the same thing about gays and lesbians. I think that’s the reasoning behind “curing gays”–even if you want to DON’T. I read a Jehovah’s Witness tract that people should be able to not act gay like people learn to control their tempers :eek:
Island prisons.
Gays and lesbians suffer from the “problem” that what they want isn’t wrong. That viewpoint would actually make perfect sense if homosexuality was wrong, but it’s not.
And the fact that homosexuality isn’t wrong is a major reason why such “gay cures” don’t work even as far as convincing people to stop having gay sex. Since there’s no actual reason to consider it wrong, their resistance to their homosexual desires is based on sand. It’s easy, after all to justify to yourself any frustration involved in not molesting children or not raping a woman or not beating up someone you dislike - because the harm involved is real, and obvious. It’s far harder to control yourself when the “harm” involved is imaginary, and when you are hurting yourself in the process.
Refusing their homosexual desires means they have to base their resistance on unsupported faith in homosexuality’s “evil”, and it also means they are hurting themselves. Cutting away any chance at a real romantic or sexual relationship. So it’s not surprising that such “cures” tend to end up with the person in question being found sleeping with members of their own gender anyway. I regard it as the sexual equivalent of a fad diet that consists of drinking sewer water; it’s disgusting, it’s unhealthy, and no matter how dedicated they claim to be you can expect the dieters are all sneaking sandwiches and beer when you aren’t looking.
Life without parole.
In a case like this the term is about protecting society for a murder it is about punishing the offender or ‘justice’ if you will.
So the sentence may be the same, but they have different reasons for imposing them.
It’s kind of like those 3 strikes laws (which I oppose).