What should you do if you belatedly find out you've fed someone something they shouldn't/wouldn't eat?

First, apology to the mods, I really couldn’t decide it this belongs here or cafe society. Recipe(s) involved, but the question is, I guess, about manners and morality/ethics.

Okay, tonight I made what we call “clean out the fridge stew” for supper, which is why this question came to mind again.

Years ago it was a recipe from a friend whose birth family had called it Vegetarian Chili. Which was a reasonable name, it was mainly a mix of various beans and some other vegetables in a mostly tomato-y base with lots of chilis and peppers and onions and spices.

She’d married a devout meat eater, as in, if there’s no meat involved, it isn’t a dinner. So she started adding meat to the no-longer Vegetarian Chili. Not any particular meat, whatever she had on hand or needed to be used up. Most often it was ground beef, but it could be lamb, or ground turkey, or chopped up leftover roast chicken, or, heck, hot dog slices. Whatever. Otherwise the recipe stayed pretty much the same. At least five kinds of tomatoes (diced and stewed and crushed and whole plus either sauce or paste. Maybe both – she was cooking for a family of six. And beans. At least pintos and small whites, but pretty much anything else was game. She even tossed in baked beans once. (Said the sweetness from the molasses was a bit unusual, but not enough to put off the hoard.) And squash was a standard to add bulk, at least zucchini and summer but whatever else vegetable that was at hand worked too. Tons of chopped onions and garlic and peppers and chilis and, well, you get the picture. Chop everything up into a reasonable size to eat off a soup spoon, pre-cook meats if needed, toss it all in a dutch oven and simmer in the oven for at least an hour. Done.

After she passed the recipe on to me it mutated further. We’re not as dedicated carnivores, and hubby isn’t fond of really spicy food so I milded that stuff down. Also cut down quantities wildly, since we’re a household of two, and even though we’re both willing to eat leftover lunches sometimes, there are limits.

Plus I started adding fruit that was starting to be less that wonderful. You know, the apples that were no longer crisp? The end of that box of raisins that had turned into hard pebbles? Those peaches that were disappointing because they never really ripened into wonderful juiciness? That handful of dates I never found a use for? Peel/core/stone as appropriate, chop small, and toss in. The random bits of sweetness against the background vegetables tastes good, at least IOO. Which is how the recipe became 'Clean out the fridge stew."

Sorry, long prelude. Now to the story: one time, Wow, two decades ago, friend had made Ex-Vegetarian Chili for supper. One of her sons asked if his new school friend could stay for supper, and of course she said yes. So, the supper was apparently the ‘normal’ for them free for all, and everyone enjoyed the chili. At the end, when she was clearing bowls to prepare to serve dessert, the friend thanked her very nicely for the meal, said it was great. She told him he was welcome.

And then he said something like, “And to think my mother was afraid we wouldn’t fit in.”

“Why not?”

He shrugged. “Well, you know. With having to eat halal.”

Urk. The meat that time had been pork. Not even pork adjacent. It was chopped up pork loin. Pork, pork, pork. She didn’t know much about the rules of halal eating, but basically everyone knows Pork Is Forbidden.

She said she stood there pole-axed for god knows how long. What should she do? What should she say? The pork was eaten! If it was something he was allergic to, like nuts or shellfish or whatever, she’d have to do something fast, but what? Do you induce vomiting? Rush the kid to a hospital? Call poison control??

But for a religious taboo? Would vomiting the food up ‘help’ him spiritually somehow? Or just make him aware he’d sinned and thus feel awful? Should she call his parents and ask? But then THEY would know, and couldn’t unknow it.

Maybe it didn’t count if the person had no idea he was breaking the taboo? Or maybe there was some ritual or atonement he had to go through and thus he/they should know?

She had no idea. Finally she stopped staring and said, “Who wants ice cream?” and just carried on. The boy was happy and smiling and clearly in no distress and so…she never told him or his parents or anyone at the time.

“Least said, soonest mended” she said she’d decided, when she told me about it years later. She’d found out later from her son that the new friend had told him he ate halal food, but son didn’t understand what that meant, and hadn’t passed it on to her.

So, my question is, in a situation like that, where you know after the fact that someone has unknowingly trespassed against some religious or ethical rule they hold, what’s the right thing to do? Do you tell them? Do you stay quiet? I think my friend made the best choice she could at that moment, that situation, but is there an overall rule to follow?

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As someone who could have been in that position , if it’s a religious/ethical thing keep your mouth shut and don’t tell me that there was meat in those beans I ate on a Friday during Lent. There’s nothing I can do about it but I would have felt awful , even though it wouldn’t have been a sin since it was unintentional.

The one exception would be if it was a vegan ( or possibly a vegetarian) who ate meat because that can cause digestive problems.

Why did the guest think that the meal would be halal compliant? That seems like a huge assumption for someone to make when eating at someone else’s house. If they didn’t mention anything about having special dietary restrictions before the meal, I wouldn’t say anything afterwards.

Agreed; dumbass for the son’s friend to visit an American home and not mention upfront that he maintains a halal diet. I have a co-worker who does so and we’re reasonably careful about restaurant choices and he still quizzes the waiter about the food.

The Lil’wrekkers boyfriend is Palestinian.
He practiced eating restrictions growing up.
He never did on his own. He didn’t mind bacon, cause who would?
We had lots of fun trying to talk him into sausages, when he found out regular hotdogs are mostly of the pork variety in this house.
He was horrified when he read the ingredients.
I told him we could get him turkey dogs. He said, no he would accommodate himself while scarfing down a big ol’ BBQ sandwich (AKA, pulled Pork).
He’ll eat anything now.

But he did mention it. He just didn’t mention it to the right person; but he presumably assumed that the person he mentioned it to had told the cook.

Sorry; missed that.

Pretty much the same thing happened at a meal I was invited to. I was in an intensive Indonesian language program with three other students; our two main instructors were Muslim. Sally, the wife of one of the students, invited us all for dinner one night.

Sally was in an interesting position because her husband was a college professor and she was only a high school graduate - and all of the four students already had advanced degrees. It was clear she felt a little nervous/inferior with regard to her lack of education, but an area she excelled in was cooking, and she was legitimately proud of her skills and knowledge in that area. (She would make baked good for her husband to bring to class fairly often - always excellent stuff.)

I felt sorry for Sally because of course she was just as worthy a person as all the folks she hung out with due to her husband’s position, but she felt like she wasn’t as good as the rest of us.

Anyway, you can guess what happened: Sally did not realize that most Indonesians are Muslim and don’t eat pork, so her salad - which all of us consumed with gusto - had bits of bacon in it. I only realized after we’d all eaten some that this was a mistake.

I felt that the right thing to do was to keep my mouth shut. Sally would have been absolutely mortified. While the Indonesians might have been a little grossed out, surely they would realize that Allah would know they had not sinned, because they didn’t eat pork on purpose.

This all happened decades ago, but a few years later I asked, on a message board where all the members were either expats living in Indonesia or were Indonesians, what they thought the correct response would have been.

I was quite surprised that almost everyone - Muslims and non-Muslims alike - said that I should have told the two Muslims that they had eaten pork. People said “if it were me, I would want to know.”

I dunno - I don’t think they properly appreciated how painful it would have been for Sally if I’d spoken up during the meal and stopped them from continuing to eat the salad.

I guess I could have waited and told the Indonesians the next day, so Sally didn’t have to know. But all in all, I still feel that there was really no need to say anything. But then, I am not Muslim or religious in any way.

I feel like I was in a similar situation. I worked with a girl who was vegetarian from India. She absolutely loved Caesar salad. I never told her that it has fish in it.

I’ve run into similar situations a couple of times in my life (though never after the fact). The first time, my mom inadvertently served bacon to my Jewish friend in high school. Being conscientious I brought it to his attention, but found that he was evidently not Orthodox as he chowed down on it due to the fact that in his household it was only prohibited at home [that is, his own home].

The second time was at a work BBQ in which an Indian coworker (who I knew did not eat beef) was about to take a bite of her hamburger. I expressed my surprise at her choice of food and she reacted in astonishment, “You mean this isn’t a veggie burger??!” I told her that the chance of it being a veggie burger at an American BBQ unless clearly labeled as such was nonexistent. So she threw it away. I guess where she came from all of the burgers were veggie burgers. Looking back on it now I wonder if it was an honest mistake or if she was “pleading ignorance” with her conscience.

As for me, I was raised nominally Catholic, but always thought that the meat-prohibition during Lent was ridiculous, essentially since fish was allowed. So I always ignored it with no regret whatsoever.

I remember years ago, my parents had some guests who were British Indian members of ISKCON (i.e., the Hare Krishna movement). As I remember, they were careful about eating only vegetarian food and the daughter checked the package of cookies we had before eating them. But then for whatever reason, the dinner my mother served included Jell-O. I didn’t say anything at the time, but I mentioned the source of the gelatin to my mother sometime later.

I once fed pork to a Jewish person. I did not know that she was Jewish when I made and served the food, I learned a few days later when I noticed her wearing a Star of David.

I spent several days second guessing myself over it and then went to a Jewish co-worker and asked her what she thought. She said that she would want to know but would understand that it was a mistake that certainly wouldn’t be repeated. I told my friend. We stayed friends and I got much better at checking labels.

OTOH, when my Dad was alive, he would come to stay with us for a few days or a week. We both worked, so he was in the habit of using his key to go in and would make himself lunch and snacks while we were gone. This was all perfectly fine with us, his hobby was fixing things and we had an old fixer that needed love.

One day he showed up while I was at work (and before I had a chance to shop for him) and when I got home I asked what he had had for lunch so I didn’t make the same thing for dinner.

He said he had made a potted turkey sandwich. I hadn’t shopped for him so I knew we didn’t have any potted meat (ICK!). I causally peeked in the trash can to see an empty can of Wellness turkey cat food.

There was no moral dilemma there, I didn’t say a word to anyone until after he died.

Unless there’s a matter of health involved say nothing. I don’t know how all religions would regard an unknowing consumer of proscribed food but some certainly don’t consider that a sin in an any way as there was no intent or knowledge. And anybody that does consider it a sin can go to hell.

I’ve known a few extremist pet owners who wouldn’t think of feeding anything they hadn’t tried. But IMO, ewwww.

If they’re correct that it’s an offense, they may in fact be going to hell.

Unless there’s some reason to believe there is a health issue (allergies) I wouldn’t say anything.

We have both Hindu Brahmin and Muslim friends who don’t eat anything at our house. The Brahmins because anything I touch is apparently unclean and the Muslims because everything in our kitchen even the cutlery and crockery is assumed to have touched pork.

Other Muslim friends are less particular. If I accidentally left some bacon fat in a skillet when I started the beef stew, forgot about that when I was serving it up four hours later, and remembered the next day, I wouldn’t dream of calling them up to tell them. Can’t see the upside.

Not saying this ever happened, mind you…

Are you okay with this? It would bother me. A lot. It’s just such a basic of hospitality to offer food and/or drink to guests, and to have them essentially say, You are such a disgusting person that anything you touch is contaminated … Well, I just couldn’t really be friends under those conditions. I mean, we could be work friends, or happen to belong to the same club or something, but not really friends.

I have a friend who is jewish and kind of orthodox. He won’t eat any food I prepare because my kitchen isn’t kosher. My attitude is, hey, more food for me!

I grew up in a 95% Muslim country. Almost all my friends were Muslims. Maybe I’m desensitized to people who believe in ritual cleanliness/uncleanliness.

Maybe I should say that the Brahmins are parents of my daughter’s friend (possibly bestie) not people we chose as friends. I definitely have an issue with the caste system. Even more so, since they will eat at restaurants where they have no idea who touched their food.

I’d be OK with the “everything in my kitchen is assumed to have touched pork” because really, everything except the coffee cups and drinking glasses probably has. It’s the “anything I touch is apparently unclean” that would mystify me - that sounds very much like a caste thing , and I don’t understand how those people would choose to be friends with me.

Edited - “Daughter’s friend’s parents” makes a little more sense to me but not much. Because that still means the daughters were young enough when they became friends that their parents would have met each other - and I wouldn’t think that those parents would have allowed their daughter to have such a friendship.