I’d heard that Bluetooth degrades audio.
They took away the audio mini-plug in phones.
My Samsung phone still has a mini-plug port. But it’s cheap. The audio cuts in and out if the cable is touched. I tried electrical contact cleaner. Didn’t help.
We have to pick up and hold a phone. A cheap port connection is useless.
It’s not a phone vs computer thing, but the specific protocol in use. Bluetooth isn’t a single thing, but many different protocol versions under a Bluetooth “umbrella” with many different codecs of differing quality levels and latencies, some of which are horrible and some of which are excellent — and it’s not always easy to tell which protocol you’re actually using, and which are supported by your equipment. If you have a recent enough phone and a recent enough set of speakers, and it sounds good to your ears, then great, it’s fine!
But if you’re considering getting an external USB sound card to up your output or recording quality, then it makes sense to start nit-picking over that vs Bluetooth. Or if you have old enough equipment that still has Firewire, for example, it’s possible that it also has older Bluetooth hardware that doesn’t support the modern, better-sounding versions. But if it all sounds good already, then no need to worry about it.
Beware… this is a DEEP rabbit hole, lol. For sanity’s sake, I’d suggest you avoid getting into it unless you have personal or professional need to (i.e., something about your current setup is unsatisfactory). For me, it was the key to understanding two annoyances in my life: why gaming over Bluetooth often resulted in out-of-sync audio and video, and why music quality over Bluetooth severely degraded whenever I joined a meeting. The answers to those are related to the Bluetooth versions and protocols.
But if your setup is working just fine, it is NOT worth your time to dive in, lol. It’s a lot of boring and confusing nomenclature and nerd rage.
Yeah. His takeover of MuseScore and the way Muse Hub was build is not very confidence inspiring. MuseScore 4.0 was still in an alpha version when released, with bugs galore, and just runs really slowly even on decent computers at the time. It’s gotten somewhat better, but
I still do my work in MuseScore 3 because it works better. I only load it in MuseScore 4 to use the advanced instruments. I could go into a long list of bad decisions with MuseScore 4. But, basically, he prioritized an interface change and adding a bunch of stuff over efficiency/optimizations and stability.
Then there’s Muse Hub, which basically kinda puts a proprietary layer into the mix. It’s not that you can add a bunch of different open source instruments in this new type. It’s you can download Muse-only stuff. And then its integration means you don’t get clean attacks on stuff, and everything takes forever to load in MuseScore.
I don’t get the vibe he knows coding that well, really. When I first saw him, he was a YouTuber muscian who complained about music software. He seems to have taken over MuseScore to turn it into his own personal vision of what that software should be, rather than honoring the legacy.
I suspect I will be using an older version of Audacity as well, because what is their priority? Adding new features. Throwing in this specific “save to web” thing. It’s very much like “Oh, now this is Muse’s audio editor” rather than “we really love this project and want to keep it alive and work with it.”
And, honestly, the YouTube video thing has always rubbed me the wrong way. Like, yeah, need to advertise for it. I’ve seen some smaller devs do it, but his videos specifically come off as “I know people will object, so I’m gonna try to convince them for the company.”
I was at one point excited when he took over these projects, but he presented it as this small thing of him taking over things that were languishing. It’s clearly much more “I wanna make what I wanna make, and I don’t care about what came before, or really the ethos behind it.”
Yeah, i recently updated Audacity, and it seems like a modest downgrade. More clicks to do the same stuff. An unwanted “save to web” option. Or still she’s what i want it to do fine, though
Bluetooth can cause… issues: everything @Reply explained about the standards and codecs and latencies, plus imagine you are mixing or recording microphone A, microphone B, synth C, guitar D, and laptop E— better to use cables There are specifications for digital audio/video streaming and synchronization if you know what you are doing, but nobody is talking about Bluetooth there, and in fact in my experience is it is better/more reliable to use Ethernet cables and not wireless.
If you are just sending sound to one or two or four Bluetooth speakers to listen to some music, then maybe it does not matter if there are 40 or 100 ms of latency (or even more) or if the digital audio gets compressed.
Indeed. But with free software you do get what you pay for (which is not always zero— many people are under a misapprehension), so
You can use any old version of Audacity, and it will not stop working; of course people have already forked/cloned/modded Audacity so as not to deal with the new issues: https://tenacityaudio.org/ — all that possible because it is free software rather than some proprietary product you paid for but it is or became shitty and you got screwed— there is also free software like Ardour that can multiple tracks, including latency compensation and other features people expect.
If you pay money for non-free software, e.g. I see Bitwig is 399 Euros now, of course it is polished, and the kind of thing you get is they throw in more instruments, effects, samples, packages than you will ever even use; it is an integrated all-in-one digital audio workstation and music production environment. (Not that you couldn’t do all of that with purely free software, but there is some time-is-money tradeoff at work here if you are a professional who wants to produce music and not download dozens of different things and waste time getting them to work with each other. Nevertheless, to modify an MP3 with a simple effects chain you do not need to pay 400 bucks for something.)
Download and save their zip file, 2. create a folder on the local hard drive, 3. copy files into folder, 4. Find the exe, 5.Create a shortcut and save on desktop
Open Audacity and start editing
Any version will work. But Windows 10 prefers 64 bit apps.
Thanks. Maybe I’ll end up there. Although … I don’t see a Mac logo, and I definitely want to be able to edit music on my Mac. (You may remember me from my other thread about getting Audacity to work under Linux. But that’s my travel laptop. My main laptop runs Mac OS.)
Right. A DAW and signal processing are really rather different use cases. A DAW is more designed for actually recording and mixing music on multiple tracks, though of course they usually have a suite of effects, either built-in or installable as VSTs etc.
Yeah, so maybe they will be an option in the future. I’m not going to muck around with nonstandard Mac software that i need to understand.
Right now, Audacity is still working for me. But it’s good to know why it has become more annoying, and that i shouldn’t routinely trust future releases. I may even downgrade it on my computers, and reinstall an older version.
Ardour is the DAW I’ve been using for more than a decade now. I love it, but these days they want a subscription to download compiled binaries from their website. If you download the binaries through your package manager (at least in Ubuntu), it’s not the demo version (which goes silent after 10 minutes), but it does nag you for a subscription every time you export.
OTOH, the source is still free if you want to compile it. I don’t know of anyone who’s forked it. Subscriptions can be had for as little as $1 a month, which is damn cheap for a fully featured DAW. I pay more, just because I use the software a lot.
My research showed that Muse Hub is not designed to replace Audacity, it is designed to enhance it’s functionality.
Muse Hub
is not a replacement for Audacity; rather, it is a companion app designed to enhance and extend the functionality of the latest versions of Audacity. Both are owned by the same company, Muse Group