What the hell is Trump?

One good reason to support him is so Melaniacan be First Lady.

NSFW version: Sproinggggg! Aaa-OOO-gah! Aaa-OOO-gah!

Yes, this is definitely the greatest risk we face if Donald Trump— shameless liar and exaggerator, slayer of companies, camera-whoring TV personality, sociopolitical simpleton— were to become President of the United States of America, arguably the most powerful man in the world: “the Left” might say mean things about him.

I apologize, tomndebb. I haven’t posted in this forum very much in the past and wasn’t aware a comment like that was verbotten.

This is at least the third time you’ve used this phrase in the last couple of days. I’m guessing you just recently discovered it and you think it actually lends some sort of weight to what you say.

It doesn’t.

Who said anything about inferior races? Who even said there was such a thing?

I get it too. No reason in the liberal mind to object to illegal immigration…ergo, no rational or reasonable reason exists to object to illegal immigration…ergo, objection = racism.

It’s all bullshit and a very large part of the reason Trump is doing so well. People are fed up with the liberal my-way-or-you’re-some-kind-of-asshole approach to politics.

And we need more Arpaios. People strive not to go back to his jails, and that’s a good thing. It’s truly a sad state of affairs when this country seemingly has only one jail criminals actively try to avoid, and the guy running it is therefore considered to be a bad guy. What is it with liberals and criminals? You may not have noticed it, or you may be too delicate to acknowledge it even to yourselves, but you guys get victimized too.

Sounds a lot llike Obama and most other Democrat politicians to me.

So much of this stuff just depends on whose ox is getting gored. At least I recognize it.

I’m Hispanic and with plenty of experience and social studies knowledge to boot, it does.

…and this is no different to how in a “more civil time” there were “things you don’t mention in polite company”. So the motivation today is to avoid “triggers” or giving offense to protected groups, and back then it was to “avoid violating public morals” – it’s always someone telling someone else “don’t say/do that” or “only say/do it in private”; it’s always someone saying “I’m better than you”.
Frankly I’d like some people in the media (including the RW establishment media) and intelligentsia to realize that sure, if someone (doesn’t have to be the Donald, can be anyone) takes “being frank” over the edge into being rude, they should be called out on that by all means… but that then you should be prepared for him/her to NOT immediately act chastened and rectify to your satisfaction just because ***you ***are Oh.So.Shocked. We seem to have become too used to that if someone says to us “that you just said is offensive/biased/terrible” we must immediately commence apologizing and trying to show we didn’t mean it that way.

  • “You can’t say that on television!!”
    “Well I just did. So there!”*

Big chunk of the public just eats that up.

Of course it is a good thing that you point that out and show once again what you wilfully ignore:

Now, thing is that the Arizona Senators (not liberal as it has been also wilfully ignored by you) told many times before to the rally organizers and other politicians to avoid Arpaio nowadays because of very inconvenient reasons:

Mind you, if Trump was not aware of this he is an incompetent, if he was aware of it and still he invited Arpaio then he is a tone deaf lover of bullies that ignore justice and even the courts. He even ignored the advice of Senator like Jake Flake of Arizona. Trump then does deserve the contempt that all Hispanics will give him, and we will stand to that bully and many others when we will vote against Trump and many Republicans when November 2016 shows around.

If the language police issue no citations, but say that calling women fat pigs or claiming that Mexican immigrants are mostly criminal is patently offensive conduct, then hand me a badge.

As a Californian, this is factually wrong. California, at least, has a history of ethnic tensions with Latinos. From Gold Rush Era lynchings to the Zoot Suit Riots, Hispanics have been “disliked and resented” by bigots since the Americans www the immigrants.

Starving knows nothing about Texas History, either. (We’re still better than Arizona.)

Oh, but since the polite, well-spoken textbooks and sources of information for polite, respectable, well spoken America were not mentioning that, it must have meant we all were really happily getting along all that time. Out of sight, out of mind.

However, Trump does belittle any call for or even notion of civility as overly PC. He’s just like all the guys who come to Thailand “because of the freedom here,” when all they mean is the freedom to run around and act like a bunch of assholes.

According to this conservative commentator, writing in The Federalist, Trump is a right-wing conservative in the European mould: a practitioner of white identity politics.

Are Republicans For Freedom Or White Identity Politics?

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[…] You wanna talk about irrational hate? Take a look at soonerblue’s post, in which she (I presume, based the comment about Trump’s sex appeal) attempts to make Trump responsible for the actions of people he’s never met and who took actions he’s never come close to supporting, followed by a whole string of extrapolated hate-speech that she attributes to him and which he’s never come close to saying or iexpressed as a belief in any way, shape or form. And of course she insists he’s guilty by association with the bigots who beat this guy because his response wasn’t PC enough and he instead tried to use the occasion put the focus back on how fed up people are with how things have been going. […]

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I don’t hate anyone, “irrationally” or otherwise. My point was to share an article that tied in with what happened to my 12 y/o friend … which made Trump not funny anymore.

I didn’t mention anything about Trump’s sexuality, but you can fault me with not knowing how to properly quote a news article on this message board.

I do think Trump could’ve made a stronger statement condemning supporters who commit criminal assault in his name … but all he said was that the beating “would be a shame.” And in the next breath - “I will say, the people that are following me are very passionate. They love this country. They want this country to be great again. But they are very passionate. I will say that.”

I would have respected something such as - “I do not condone or advocate violence, and condemn this brutal attack which does not represent the message of my campaign.”

This was the article I was trying to share:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...funny-20150821

And now fresh insults for Megyn Kelly. Stay classy, Trump!

I really am starting to think he’s on a secret mission from the Clinton camp.

His father was German. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. :slight_smile:

As for independently funding his own campaign:
He’d spend a billion of his own money so he doesn’t have to deal with lobbyists. Yeah. Way to Spin, Donald
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/25/donald-trump-says-pols-are-beholden-to-big-donors-so-why-is-he-raising-super-pac-funds/

And eye opening
He’s appealing guys who say “White Power” at a rally in Alabama and he doesn’t address it. https://www.youtube.comwatch?v=c4_UiUrRcbgAnd

He may be making fun of all the other Repubbies in the clown car, but cozying up to white supremicsts is a lot more dangerous than ushing in a pregnant Mexican.

Trump’s latest fan? David Duke. Man, this gets better and better. Go Trump go!

Roger Ailes from Fox News just released a strong statement condemning Trump’s remarks about Megyn Kelly and fully supporting her. He went so far as to say “Mr. Trump rarely apologizes, but in this case he should.”

It remains to be seen what happens next, what Trump does and how Mr. Ailes actually behaves with Trump. But I applaud the statement.

I give it three days before Ailes issues an apology to Trump for daring to suggest that he ever need apologize for anything.