yup yup…
whats wrong with women? the same thing thats wrong with men… we just have a longer history of takin the blame…
Jodi, gotta applaud your wisdom. Love it.
You sound like a man who’s easily pussy whipped. Get over that and don’t take any of the BS you speak of and you’ll do fine.
I mean come on dude your wife gets pregnant by some other dude then convences you not to divorce her?! GEEZ have some self respect for crying out loud!
You didn’t overreact.
She wasn’t sincere.
I’m a unbroken woman.
Hear me roar.
Psst, I can answer that one for you. You don’t deserve us, but you’re amusing, especially once we get you trained. It’s especially cute when we let you think you’ve gotten your way. 
Seriously, though, I think the common denominator here is your bad taste. Just like certain women I know who just keep picking the jerks, you keep picking the ho-bitches. What it is that draws you to women who treat you badly, I can’t say.
I can say that you sound terribly easy to manipulate, and some people like that. I can’t like or respect people who let me bulldoze them, but some folks are into that.
Really, now, everyone knows perfectly well what “Let’s be friends” means. It’s as easy to translate as “He’s got a wonderful sense of humor” and “She’s got a great personality.” But just in case you’re out of the loop, I’ll translate. It means she has absolutely no interest in you whatsoever, but you’re a nice enough guy and she doesn’t want to hurt your feelings.
And even if she does mean it, you know what women tend to do with their friends? Bitch about their love lives. Sorry, it’s just the way a lot of us work, and if you’re going to be a woman’s friend, you’re probably going to have to hear a great deal about her current, past, and potential romances. It’s just part of the territory.
I’d guess you need to figure out why you keep picking women who treat you badly and whore around on you, and then you need to grow enough spine to say, “Look, if we’re going to be friends there’ll have to be certain boundaries. If you can’t respect those boundaries, I’m afraid we can’t be friends.” Then you need to stick to that.
Oh, and then you need to explain to Shakes that plenty of people with absolute boat-loads of self-respect try to salvage their marriages after infidelity. A lot of them succeed, at least for a while. Some marriages emerge from infidelity stronger than ever. Others shatter like china hitting a stone floor. It’s never a black and white situation.
Seems to me in almost every relationship I have been in, or been witness to, there is a fucker and a fuckee. The fuckee is the one blinded with passion, the one that’s going to get used and abused until they realize the situation they are in is just not worth it anymore. The fucker is the one in control, the one that gets away with murder (so to speak).
Call me a bitter cynic, maybe that’s what I am, but I can only know for sure what I have experienced.
Relationships pass from infatuation, to passion, to tolerance. If you can both reach the point of balanced passion and tolerance towards each other, and keep that balance in check, you are truly in love. If one or both of you tips the scale of that balance, it’s over, be done with it, win or lose, move on.
She sounded pretty ****ed up in some way, but I don’t think I could tell you how(Though it sounded like some huge blind spot as to your feelings rather then a sadistic form of toture from where I’m sitting). You definatly didn’t overreact. If nothing else, you have a sort of patience that I could never claim.
I would have personally:
A.) Told her not to talk about it
B.) Tell her off if she did it again
C.) Ignore her completely if said behaviour continued.
D.)Do this for a couple weeks/months and then start taking her calls if they were still occuring. First mention of her boy toy gets her put on the permenant no-call list with no removal.
Though I’ve been accused of being mean.
Please don’t tar us all with the same brush.
Some of us would never behave like that in a million years, and are very private people indeed.
It sounds like the women you’ve described are keeping you as a security blanket. They date you, they put you through an emotional rollercoaster, you guys break up, but they insist on “remaining” friends.
They use you as something to fall back on, and because you do react the way you do (you get upset when they insist on telling you about their latest conquests - which is the reason why they’re telling you these things), you make them feel good.
let me explain: you wouldn’t get upset if you cared diddly squat about them. So telling you about their boyfriends and knowing you’ll be upset, is an ego-stroker for them.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Next time a girl you’ve dated and treated you like dirt, wants to “stay” friends, tell her kindly that a clean break would be best.
And it is.
makes me think of a cranberries song:
But i’m in so deep
you know i’m such a fool for you
you got me wrapped around your finger
do you have to
do you have to
do you have to let it linger?
you can’t be friends with an ex-lover untill all the wounds have healed. And constantly being confronted with the source of your pain, isn’t helping.
And for your information:
there’re a lot of men out there that act in the same way. 'Tisn’t only women.
The way people treat you is largely in your own hands. Not completely, but largely. Be consistent.
the reason why she kept calling, is because you caved in before. You taught her if she nagged enough, you’d give in.
be strong.
good luck.
This is pretty close to exactly what I DID do…
Elfje I do not doubt that there are guys that do the same thing. The difference being that I’ve never dated a guy, so I haven’t had that experience 
Rapunzel Further up in this thread, I posted an append to the title, adding “That I Have Been Involved With”… Therefore the only way I’m tarring you with that brush is if you are Melissa, Tina, or Renee
Wow ccwaterback, that is cynical (and that’s coming from another cynic.) I hope you’re oversimplifying things, or that your luck changes.
Some women happen also to be icky people. The same is true for any other demographic. More’s the pity, because a lot of them rock:)
I’m married. It’s both mine and my wife’s second marraige. The other day, she was discussing her ex’s current wife and what kook she is. She also thinks my ex is a kook.
She looked at me and said, “What is it about you two, both of you got two wives that are nutcases.”
I replied, “that’s because all women are nutcases. Can you think of one that isn’t?”
She laughed, thought about it a second and said, “The sad part is, I can’t.”