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April 7, 2025, 11:16am
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…says the person who has repeatedly denied doing the things they literally did in this thread . So tell us all about being a “bad faith piece of shit liar”.
This remains true:
As indeed you have repeatedly done about this thing you find “abhorrent”.
Let’s have a look at some of your “posts on the topic”:
Continuing the discussion from How much transphobia is permissible before banning :
Everyone here who compares debating issues like trans women in women’s sports to debating the pros and cons of segregated water fountains or of Nazism.
This is of course ridiculous: the first is actively being debated by sporting bodies, as well as by governments, in the press etc. it’s fairly often brought up by posters in other contexts because it’s a topic of interest. The latter are long-discredited fringe views which few people are interested in discussing.
I agree with you that these people are being ridiculous. But they aren’t the moderators (or even if the moderators personally believe that, they aren’t moderating accordingly).
Andy outlined exactly how you can make the point you want to make without running afoul of the rules.
That doesn’t mean the rules are perfect; for example, I think that if “trans women are biologically male” is banned, which is fine, then the argument “trans women belong in women’s sports because they are women” should also be banned, because that argument is tautological and serves no purpose but to invite contention over the forbidden question of whether or not trans women are women.
But that quibble with the rules doesn’t prevent you from expressing disagreement with the inclusion of trans women in women’s sports, or any other women’s space.
You two think segregation was a “fringe” view? Remember, we’re talking about when it was happening, not now (although… ).
And you think comparisons between the Nazi treatment of trans people and other minorities and what the current administration are pushing are “ridiculous”?
Feel free to explain how you are not minimizing what is actively happening right now.
For example, I doubt there is more than an extremely tiny minority of transgender-rights supporters who really believe that people should be treated in every area of life without regard for any aspects of birth-assigned sex, genetic or anatomical sex, etc.
Interesting! Can you name an area that you feel trans people should be treated as their birth sex for, regardless of their personal wishes?
Can you name any area that involves someone other than the trans person’s romantic partners and doctors identifying the trans person based on their sex assigned at birth rather than the sex they want to be identified with?
Or would you withdraw all objections to this part of her argument if @DemonTree instead said:
people should be treated accordingly in every area of PUBLIC life without regard for aspects of biological sex, and various other things.
Why exclude the two main ones?
Or would you withdraw all objections to this part of her argument if @DemonTree instead said:
people should be treated accordingly in every area of PUBLIC life without regard for aspects of biological sex, and various other things.
But she didn’t, did she? And is treating people in the qualified way you present an extremist position?
The mod note in that thread prevented any response to this. Perhaps you’d like to answer now?