Well, if we define it as a thread designed to get others to object, then it’s a tautology. Yes, anyone who posts such a thread is by definition a troll.
But there are threads that some of us interpret as provocative, like the one on puberty, that maybe aren’t. I don’t think all of those are trolls.
But that’s not exactly something searchable, so I think these will remain Schrodinger’s trolls.
Not a tautology, but an application of the definition of “troll”.
And definitely subjective. Which is the whole point of having the Trolls R Us thread, so posters can discuss it. While I appreciate the long-term impact of discouraging new posters, there’s also the short-term impact of the board tolerating toxicity.
I think we all agree on the general objectives. We just differ on where to draw the lines of too early or late.
Which is good, because it gives us something to talk about while we wait for the next troll.
It’s taken a little while, but I’m now at the point of thinking the reason DocCathode is fighting so hard to keep deepfake porn legal is because that’s what he faps to. His insistence that it doesn’t count because it’s not “really” the person depicted being violated is starting to sound awfully defensive.
Huh. Try again.
Also, I can see ‘DocCathode just does not get it- and it aggravates me!’
Why the leap directly to personal insults?
Where did I say “it doesn’t count”? I said, and continue to say that the definition you quoted does not include deep fakes. The one Jophiel quoted from the same site is about deep fakes. You can say deep fakes should be included in the definition you quoted. They are not. Especially since the term “deep fakes” appears on the site elsewhere. If they meant for deep fakes to be included, why mention them elsewhere but not in the list you quoted?
Because Pit, and I don’t have to be polite about someone playing “cute” games about what’s “technically” sexual violation here.
Every place you said it shouldn’t be illegal.
I would reluctantly point to myself as a possible counterexample. To be honest, and one of the reasons I had to re-examine myself hard after @Johnny_Bravo chastised me on being over-eager, is that I myself match a LOT of the profiles for a troll or returning trock.
I was a long time lurker (not directly, but via threadspotting from links on the straightdope.com page back when that was a thing), and when I joined, I was quite familiar with board styles and most but not all of the rules. It was during the really unpleasant days of 2020, where I was isolated, and absolutely not at my best due to the realities of Covid AND the ugly bits nearer the end of Trump 1.0. And yes I jumped into threads I thought interesting, and I fully admit the first thread I started was provocative and NOT in a good way, to which I ended up apologizing for in thread.
To the best of my knowledge, outside maaaaaybe one or two possible subtle digs, no one seemed to dig into me as a possible/probable trock, and I have no desire to do research to find out if I am wrong.
Aside: THANK YOU @gyrate for setting up a new thread to end the single topic pitting. I greatly appreciate it.
I remember when Jamie/Ambivalid first showed up and started a few controversial threads. Over the course of a year or so he seemed to calm down, stopped posting about the same thing all the time (and I get that it must have consumed his life at the time) and started meshing better with everyone. I don’t recall how long before he joined that he had his accident, but I remember he had a lot of pent up frustration and anger when started posting.
I’m playing :“cute” games? First, why not say that in your post here instead of
That still strikes me as unnecessary.
Again, there are all kinds of things I find repulsive that I don’t think should be criminalized. I have asked how under the law a deep fake is different from other images that are legal. I have not received an answer.
Because what I said in my first post is also what i think.
Still not hearing a denial…
Sigh,
The following statement posted earlier (here it is so nobody has to scroll up)
Is entirely and completely false. It has no basis in reality whatsoever.
I agree, it was a classy move.
This is very kind of you to say. I know I’ve yelled at this particular cloud in the past and I’m gratified to hear that it was constructive.
On the other hand, agreeing to become a mod is maybe a bridge too far in terms of self-flagellattion.
Zing!
Point to your side.
But at least I’m not on a constant loop of the Disco Duck from a prior penance.
Thank you but I should have done it sooner. It’s gone a bit lively over there.
Little help, please? What does “platforming” mean when used in this sense?
I Googled and only found references to video games.
The opposite of deplatforming.
Alrighty. Thanks.
Der_Trihs is waving around his genocide boner in the Greenland thread again. I swear you could start a thread about the campaign Rural Fire District Commissioner in your area and he’d find a way to turn it into “REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO BURN THE COUNTY TO THE GROUND AND JERK OFF WHILE THEY WATCH YOUR NEIGHBORS’ FLESH MELT OFF THEIR BONES”.
Dude needs a hobby.
Your criticism might have more weight if you weren’t a fascist boot-licker.