Well, apparently we might see a ceasefire, at least for a while. Live Updates: Israel and Hamas Negotiators Agree to Gaza Cease-Fire Deal, Officials Say https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/15/world/israel-hamas-cease-fire-deal-gaza?smid=nytcore-android-share
UK media has largely been crediting the Trump administration for this, saying that it was the envoy Steve Witkoff who talked tough with Bibi and that Trump wanted this all sorted prior to his inauguration.
I am extremely skeptical of this.
Biden’s biggest (genuine) failure was indeed his handling of this conflict, so it’s somewhat plausible that any change in strategy could reap dividends. I just don’t buy that Trump would want this while he still isn’t president yet and that his envoy would immediately have such sway.
What’s much more likely is that Trump and/or his envoys were planning to do something extremely stupid like bomb Qatar, and Israel realized that they weren’t ever going to get a peace agreement if he stuck his nose into things.
Biden did nothing wrong at all- he got two ceasefire agreements thru the UN, accepted by israel, and both kiboshed by Hamas. Hamas doesnt seem to want a ceasefire, and they rejected several. This most recent one, which seems to be accepted was indeed partly done by Biden. What did you want him to do- land troops?
And dont tell me about Military aid to Israel- that is a budget item done by the House and then Senate- yes, Biden signed it, but he doesnt have a line item veto, it was a compromise budget and aid to Israel was a tiny part of it- and note he did get some aid to Gaza in there, ad well as a bunch of aid to Ukraine. Biden can not unilaterally stop aid to Israel.
Needless to say this is very much disputed; both sides have claimed that the other set unreasonable demands.
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He didn’t push very hard for the support to end, and we’ve seen now just how much leverage the US has. I’m reluctant to give the Trump administration credit but even media that has been (rightly) critical of Trump for many years is reporting that it was his envoy that made the difference here.
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Previous presidents, red and blue, have blocked military aid to Israel when the IDF went too far. In this case, US military aid has hit a record high. Of course I put some of the blame for that on Biden.
Of course. But the fact is- the two UN deals that Biden brokered were agreed to by Israel, and it was Hamas who rejected them.
On a temporary emergency basis, which Biden did. But the House didnt like it.
Yeah- that deal?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/01/16/israel-war-gaza-ceasefire-hostages-news-hamas/
An Israeli cabinet meeting to approve a ceasefire and hostage deal with Hamas was delayed Thursday morning after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accused the militant group of “reneging” on parts of the agreement.
Netanyahu’s office said the cabinet would not convene until Hamas accepted all elements of the deal.
Do you have any facts to support this concept? Qatar hosts some Gazan leadership. It’s also a densely populated city-state that’s a major transportation hub. It’s conceivable that assassinations in Qatar could occur with some CIA assistance. But unless you mean individually targeted attacks such as planting explosives in mobile phones or cars, which I wouldn’t describe as bombing, it’s extraordinarily unlikely that a Trump incoming administration would support bombing attacks. And even that is unlikely considering that the incoming Trump administration supports the Gaza/Israel cease fire.
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WS
This is how I feel. For starters if the positions were reversed Palestine WOULD be heartily genociding Israel with a lot more gusto than Israel is doing now. I think the majority of the resistance to condemning Israel stems from this. It’s hard to see Palestinians as victims and not just another group who wanted to kill everyone in the other side and are just sad that they are losing.
Hamas would, we don’t know about Palestinians in general but bear in mind a lot of the people killed have been babies or infants. But sure, we can just assume that they would be out genocidin’ if given the chance, along with healthcare workers, journalists etc.
It’s not hard for me to see people who are innocent of any crimes dying as victims. I of course see the people who died/bereaved on Oct 7th, or have suffered as hostages all this time, as victims, despite what Israel has done and despite having heard high profile Israelis tacitly or explicitly say they would be happy to see all palestinians wiped out.
I find it a bit disturbing TBH that there are people who cannot empathize because of the conflict.
Unfortunately, the suffering of innocents has virtually no political impact.
Which leads to an extremely unpopular truth, that being victimized doesn’t necessarily make martyred saints of people. If they were assholes before, being victimized often just makes them bitter, resentful, self-pitying assholes.
I took some anthropology courses that were also part of the university’s Middle Eastern studies program when I was an undergraduate. I was a nerd, so I tended to participate in school functions, and it included interacting with other students who were from the Mid East. One thing I noticed was the majority of students from the region would not talk about Israel other than to say negative things about it.
The one exception was a Palestinian student. I remember he was talking to a young lady who was heading to the region for a study abroad program over the summer and unprompted she said something like, “Don’t worry, I’m not going to Israel.” He shook his head vigorously, waved his arms, and replied vehemently, “No, no, no. I do not hate Israel.” He explained how he was unhappy with some of their actions but she should visit. I admit to being pleasantly surprised.
The truth is, unlike those other students from the Middle East, he might have been the only one who had ever spoken to an Israeli in his life. And at the end of the day, the Palestinians have to talk to the Israeli’s while Arabians, Egyptians, and Jordanians don’t.
What will happen in Gaza now that Trump won?
Fewer hostages, more food, less destruction, loss of war material from Iran. At least until they get bored and start fighting again.
Other than that it will be business as usual until people from Gaza divorce themselves from Hamas.
Israel will build a better wall and upgrade their response time to attack.
trump has temporarily canceled all foreign aid- except to Israel.
Trump just announced this…
Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel
The trivially predictable results of a Trump victory, remain just that.
Where are Rashida Tlaib and Kshama Sawant now? Where is Jill Stien now? Where are all the protests now? These people went all in against Biden and Harris.
All of the sudden they are all silent. FAFO is real.
Well, yeah, but somehow people continue to blame Biden- who did all he practically could.
It seems trump can commit murder on the steps of the Capitol, and Joe gets a parking ticket, and Joe gets all the abuse.
C’mon, man, at least give a cursory Google before you make easily disproven posts like this.
Maybe we need a new forum called “Israestine” which is part Pit, part discourse.
Why do you hate the Mods? 
I don’t feel as though that is a good cite to dispute the point I’m trying to make.
She is not responding to Trump in that cite. Trump just said he wants to remove the Palestinians and clean out Gaza. I don’t see her addressing that in the link posted.
That link looks like a stock statement, and in no way a response to what Trump said. If Harris had said the same thing that Trump said, what do you think her response would have been?
She was giving hard criticism to the Biden-Harris policy in her district and they decided to give Trump a chance, and now all we get is a stock statement? They openly protested her, to the point of interrupting her on stage. The sitting president is now openly calling for genocide, where are all the protests now?
This is why people are not voting for the Democratic party now; they are not fighting and are bowing down to power.