Is it even possible? Assuming she’s even considering it, would the party ask her not to? Is it set in stone nowadays that the sitting president gets the party nomination?
For those that know more about inside politics…would it cause a big rift in the party? Does Obama have a power base aside from being president? Would we have a brokered convention for the first time in my life?
What’s the drop-dead date for entering the race? I don’t think there’s an official one, but what’s the latest anyone has ever successfully jumped into a presidential race?
As for your questions, Quintas, I don’t know how it could not fracture the dems. A lot of people who supported Hillary the last time around held their nose and voted for him, just like a lot of us on the other side who supported someone else did the same with McCain, and I don’t see too many of those voters being loyal to Obama if Hillary enters the race.
Obama would have to be polling insanely badly, for her to make a run. I thought she was a better candidate four years ago, and I think she still would be,* but the incumbent has an inherent lead in the voting booth, and she isn’t. Hillary vs. X would be an even match, which the party would actively move to prevent.
I think it’s likely that Obama will serve a second term, largely because the Republicans aren’t fielding a credible alternative, not because the country is on his side. Four years from now, there’s going to be a stronger push for a Republican president again, which means that Hillary has 8 years before she can try for the again. By that time, she’ll have been out of the limelight for so long that no one will know who she is.
This is true for a lot of us. I shifted my support from Hillary to Obama on the day it became evident that she didn’t have a chance. In the unlikely chance that she’d get drafted I’d still support her, and I believe she’d have a better chance of winning the election. The thing is, the Tea Partiers have a couple of valid points, which Obama would never accede to, because the TP has made every argument against him personal. Hillary would have a greater ability to negotiate with them. But it’s not gonna happen.
So…the Tea Partiers wouldn’t make personal attacks on Hillary? What planet were you living on during the 90s?
I would be thankful for enusing Republican victory in the general election.
Moved from Great Debates to Elections.
It would be horrible. They would push more of the Bush policies that took a vibrant economy down the tubes , removed many of our rights, actuated big brother watching us all . They started 2 wars without paying for them. They ended regulation so the bankers could loot the system.
Hell. who would not want a return of those days.
Gee, I hate to dampen anybody’s enthusiasm here, but does anybody here remember the 2008 primary? Obama won because he ran the better campaign, people. He was able to shift with the tides effectively, maximize his positives and downplay every bit of negative sound-bite the opposition threw at him. Hilary thought she was going to be coronated on Super Tuesday and when that failed to materialize, it took her an eternity to figure out that, yes, she might actually have to work for the nomination.
Besides, what would her campaign message be? “See, I Told You So!” ?? Yeah, that’ll play well…
…"because the TP has made every argument against him personal. "
Wrong. Every argument made by the TP has been made personal by [fill in the blank]
Who are Hillary’s political advisors these days?
Bill?
No. Not without utter cataclysm.
She’s not considering it. She’s getting out of politics after 2012, or so she’s said. Without the utter cataclysm mentioned above party leaders would take her outside and beat her senseless if she gave a hint.
Yes. Absolutely yes. Adamantium if you want something stronger than stone. No exceptions.
You’re heard of the Atlantic Rift? That’s a scratch by comparison.
Being president doesn’t give you a power base? He’s President. He crushed Hillary in 2008. He owns the party. There is nothing else out there.
You will never see one as long as primaries exist.
Wait, how does that make the quote wrong? The blank is filled in by “the Tea Party”.
It’s totally up to the Black Caucus, Sharpton, Jackson and their ilk. Especially now that Blumenthal has made it alright to predict riots.
Wouldn’t you just love to see a Sister Souljah maneuver from Hillary though!
Whenever the incumbent is challenged for his own party’s nomination, has to expend time, energy, and resources to defend himself, and is exposed to a nasty campaign from within his own party, that candidate loses the November election. (Kennedy v. Carter 1980, Buchanan v. Bush 1992). There is no way the Democrats are going to tolerate any dissension in the ranks against Obama.
Incidentally, it’s the Republicans who need a Sister Souljah moment. Someone has to have the balls to say, “No more pandering to plutocrats.”
Ultimately, it’s cheap and easy to take a stand against the harmless excesses of a few self styled black radicals. Much harder to speak truth to real power. What’s hilarious is that so many people think the CBC are villains, and not the wealthy interests who routinely rape Americans in the ass.
Look no further-Ralph Nader has made an official bid to primary Obama. Actually it may not end up being him specifically.
What, pray tell, can they do to enforce that?
Oh, I hope so. Much better that he try to run as a Democrat and lose in the primary that siphon votes away from Obama in the general.