What Would You Do If You Were Treated This Way?

Well, according to my mother, who pays attention to these kind of etiquette questions, the bride and groom could be bank robbers, murderers, or cannibals, but as long as they do hand-written thank you notes no more than three months after the ceremony, the proprieties have been observed.

The mother of the bride, and the bride herself, have lots of rules by which they must abide for a Proper Wedding. The mother of the groom need only do two things:

  • Wear beige
  • Keep your mouth shut.

Both were difficult for my mother, but she managed.

All guests must do the following:

  • Send the gift to the bride’s parents’ home - never to the reception
  • Tell the bride she looked beautiful
  • You say “Best wishes” to the bride, and “Congratulations” to the groom
  • Let everything else go.

Weddings have lots of opportunities for hard feelings, which is why so many books are written on how to run them. Sorry if your feelings were hurt. I honestly doubt, from your description, if it was deliberate, but if you want to feel otherwise…:shrugs:

You don’t seem likely to be seeing each other socially, and apparently your husband is being careful to avoid any hint of unfairness in his relations with the bride, so you can simply drop the acquaintance.

I still think they were trying to avoid having a possibly noisy baby disrupt the ceremony and reception.

Regards,
Shodan

H’oboy.

Mr. tlw mentioned to Shelley how sorry we were that we wouldn’t be able to come to the wedding now, since we aren’t going anywhere without Baby tlw.

I would not have mentioned that this was the reason why - because, just as someone else said, the bride is going to feel obligated to make an exception for you. Now, having said that, it appears that she was more concerned about kids running around, not, perhaps, babies. So, who knows - but I do think it is tacky to say, “We can’t go…because we can’t bring our baby.” I think the gut reaction when THE BOSS says he can’t attend without his child is to say, “Nonsense! Come along.”

It’s entirely possible you said you couldn’t come and she asked “why not?” (tacky on her behalf, perhaps) and you simply told the truth. From your story, though, it doesn’t sound that way.

To me, it seems clear - if the invitation says no children under 10 and you’ve got a child under ten who you are not willing to leave with a caregiver, then you’re not going to the wedding.

That’s just one issue.

Next…the church. I, like astro, don’t really understand the point you intended by going on about how uncomfortable the temperature was or whatnot. You think it was cooler at the front of the church? I would guess that you were ticked about being seated in the back and then the temperature soared - and along with it, your temper. Shit, I’d be pissed off, too. So you complained about the temperature. I understand - but that’s not really the issue, is it?

Note: You couldn’t hear the bride/groom up front - know what? They wouldn’t have been able to hear a baby, either. That’s probably what they wanted.

Next: Reception. Okay, this I don’t get. I agree that it is odd not to seat you at a table with other people and to, instead, place you at a table similar to others used for gifts, etc. The only thing I can think of was that she assumed you wouldn’t be attending because of your baby and made seating arrangements previously (which she later then shuffled and bickered about). It is a stretch, however.

I’ll be honest - if I went to a wedding and at the reception, I was stuck in the back at a card table, I’d feel hurt/insulted - and then I’d get angry. And I’d feel justified - so I do understand you feeling this way.

HOWEVER, now is the time to decide how to handle it. I agree with you that your husband should not “corner her” - Talk about bad judgment. That’d be stupid and legally risky. Good advice on your part to hold back.

Do I think it is race related? No, not really. I mean, I just don’t. I’m a female minority and I’ve had to deal with discrimination but I just don’t see it here.

Is it baby related? Yup, I sure think so. Maybe the bride was pissed that she felt obligated to extend an invitation (verbal) including your baby and then was angered that you accepted so she retaliated. I’d guess it was baby related.

You seem very angry right now and I realize that you’re positive that your perception of things is right on the money. Did you want reassurance that it was? or did you want to know IF it was? This is in IMHO so I’d guess the latter.

We all just do not agree with you. Either from lack of being there, lack of understanding, or what - but we just do not all agree. Accept that and be gracious about it. Your defensive posture only makes you look more reactionary and makes me discount your judgment, especially in how you’ve interpreted the wedding.

I’d be hurt, perhaps insulted. But that doesn’t mean I’d think it was personal. And it sure as hell doesn’t mean I’d think it was racial.

I say move on in silence and never attend another one of their events. Even if you’re right…isn’t that STILL the best decision?

Tibs.

Count me among those who think the bride should have either accepted your husband’s saying you couldn’t come because of the baby or explained to him at the office one day that she was going to have you seated a bit away from the action because of the baby. She would, of course, tell you that she was doing that for the baby’s convenience, although it would likely be so the baby wouldn’t disrupt things. I really doubt the seating arrangements had anything to do with your race. If that was the case, she would have either not invited you (even if it meant making a no co-worker’s rule) or overcompensated. Certainly she would have breathed a secret sigh of relief when your husband said you weren’t coming and left it at that.

Well, your question isn’t really “what did this mean” so much as “what would you do?”

I would have moved in the church. I would have gotten out of my seat and moved up where I could hear things. If the baby cried, I would have left the church. I don’t know how rude that is considered, but I personally would not much have cared. If you’re not causing a disturbance or inconvenience, I can’t imagine why it would be a problem to move. Then again, if I were in a hot church where the service was not even miced so others could hear it, I doubt I would have stayed. If it makes you feel any better, I seriously doubt anyone even up front could hear them, either.

At the reception? I would have eaten, then left. It sounds like during the re-invites something got fucked up and you ended up with an “extra people” type of table. That shit does happen, but I would have eaten (for the same reason as your husband!) and then left, shaking my head and reaffirming that I will never, ever attend another wedding (I do this at all weddings, by the way).

So I would have done what you did, but probably not been as pissed. I just figure lots of people are really, really stupid and it’s not worth giving myself an ulcer to decide which ones are intentionally dense and which ones are accidently dense. It’s all the same to me.

Zette

Once again-if/when I ever get married, I’m eloping.

Guinastasia -

If you do, I will take it the wrong way.

Regards,
Shodan