Maybe another TV show. Probably a book and speeches. The Dems don’t have the attention span to do anything, and once he’s out of office the motivation behind the investigations will peter out.
There will be a flurry of Pit threads for a month or two, followed by a flurry of new ones with the same tone and rhetoric aimed at whoever they are told is the next Republican monster.
If he’s re-elected, stocks in pail and mop companies will sky rocket, to clean up the exploding heads.
Regards,
Shodan
First of all, if the Dems win the election, Trump will have a hard time admitting defeat. He’ll lie about the election results and accuse the Dems of rigging it. Then he’ll finally admit foreign interference in the election, this time in their favor. He’ll go out kicking and screaming, and not attend the Inauguration.
After that, who cares?
Bush was never mentioned in the indictment of his lawyer. There wasn’t a flurry if requests for Bush’s bank records and tax returns. Bush never paid off any porn stars.
It is possible that whoever gets elected pardons Trump to ease the transition, but it is also possible that the multiple state and federal investigations into him will go forward once he loses his immunity.
And I hope they put him in Epstein’s cell.
Nothing. Nothing will happen. We needed a massive investigation and housecleaning after the last Republican administration started an unnecessary war and opened a chain of secret gulags. We didn’t get it then and won’t get it next time either.
Maybe I’m too cynical. Maybe if we elect someone like a former prosecuting attorney as the next POTUS we might get somewhere.
Trump will immediately announce his candidacy for 2024. He will spend the next four years vomiting all over the airwaves about his nutty conspiracy theories. Come 2024 election season he will be the immediate R front runner.
Don Jr. will mount a Senate campaign, as will Jared K.
Regarding any prosecutions, I agree that the D’s will be too busy trying to clean up the mess and will focus on “moving on”.
Any fantasy scenarios I can imagine to prevent these outcomes can not be discussed here on a public forum.
Do you guys think that GOP politicians or the party will continue to back Trump if he loses in 2020 (for a 2024 bid) or will they go back to being anti-Trump like many were before he won?
I have no idea, you guys know better than me.
What should happen: indictments, trials, and the whole sorry lot dies in prison.
What I expect: Dumb Donald pardons himself and his family, they all resume their con games and live out their lives spending their ill-gotten booty.
Dream scenario: They all seek exile in Russia and are disposed of in the same manner as the Romanovs.
I wish more ex-presidents were like Bush Sr. and just quietly go back to their former lives. Carter was ok doing his charities.
The Clintons have always acted like they were still on top and I bet they have more influence in the DNC than most people think.
The Obama’s have done well.
Not to derail the original discussion too much, but with former D presidents ISTM they are still motivated to “make the world a better place”. Whereas with former R’s (and I can hear the screeching ramping up already) I wouldn’t say that is part of their core value system.
And regarding the Clintons hold on the DNC, I would dispute your “than most people think” conspiracy bent. More than Carter and Obama, the Clintons were/are lifelong D party leaders. The generations that followed them into leadership of the party grew up in their camp, so there is not real surprise that they continue to be the “emeritus” party leaders.
No, he will be irrelevant. He was an outsider before, he will be an outsider then. Issues with illegal immigration might continue to arise, and the GOP, or some of them, will attempt to continue to try to reduce it, but there won’t be a wall or anything.
The GOP supports him largely because he won the Presidency, just like the Democrats don’t support him because Hilary didn’t. Hilary isn’t that much of a mover and shaker in the Democratic side either, and she was much more an insider there than Trump ever was.
“There are no second acts in American politics.”
Regards,
Shodan
Well, with the level of blowing up the old norms that Trump has accomplished, I have my suspicions that the “no second acts” will be another one.
OTOH, “You won’t have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore.”
Um, that’s really not why Dems don’t support Trump, at all.
Had he been even marginally competent in the job and not the impetuous buffoon that he is, I and many other Dems probably still wouldn’t like him, but we wouldn’t be out to get him. To us, he represents everything that is wrong with not just conservatives but politics in general, and he’s doing it both intentionally and unintentionally, because he simply doesn’t know or even care to know what the fuck he’s doing, which is probably the most insulting and infuriating thing about him.
You don’t want to move on, but you do realize that “lock up the family of the outgoing leader” is a very bad look for a democracy and that one of the problems with this administration is that they ignore longstanding norms that let things function in a more or less decent way in the absence of law. So we should try to make a return to those norms. (and pass a lot of laws to say in clear language the things that formerly went without saying)
So, you make the calculation as to which is worse and know that you have constituents (like me) that are not, themselves, really sure of what they want*. And that has a high likelihood of ending up at “moving on”
Or
“leaving it to the states.” 
*practically. viscerally, leeches and stockades. but aspirationally, I don’t want to be the type of person or support the type of party who wonders how far the 8th amendment actually goes. still, there’s some appeal to leeches.
Whereas I think that it’s a very bad look to have an extensive government investigation that produces 448 page long document of evidence and conclusions that definitively show that the dude and his associates are guilty as fuck of numerous crimes, and yet the government tosses that out and endorses crime and the end of the rule of law.
It’s a bad look now, and it’ll be a bad look once Trump leaves office and no longer has the fig leaf of the attorney general saying “We refuse to prosecute the guy who signs our paychecks”.
And yes, that’s what’s going to happen, because despite the fact that everyone right and left knows he’s a criminal piece of shit, the republicans are divided between those that need the approval of his cult and those who are his actual partners in crime. Even if the dems win the republicans will prevent anything from happening.
Horse shit. It’s the perfect look for Democracy to try, convict, and sentence anyone who commits crimes. Trump and his family and associates should thank their lucky stars in the event nobody bothers to add treason to the charges. But absolutely fuck the idea of letting everyone just go home without another thought–which based just on the unredacted evidence is the alternative to locking them up.
Does this attitude port over to our illegal immigrant conversations?
It means that we should be arresting the people who knowingly hire them. It probably doesn’t mean we should lock them in concentration camps without trial and separate the kids from their parents for literally no other reason than to be assholes.
Nope. None of that with the Bush admin. Just a pile of war crimes. There was plenty for the Dems to go after, they just chose not to.
Really? Do you seriously think that the big reason that Democrats don’t support Trump is because he won and Hillary Clinton didn’t? You don’t think the collusion, racism, sexual harassment, rudeness to others (including members of his own party, such as John McCain), narcissism, lack of attention, etc are the reason not to support him? In short the man is massively unfit for any elected office and that’s been obvious to some of us since he started his campaign. And yet you think the big problem is that he beat Hillary in the election?