Hey people, you have to remember that Trump is a paragon angel without flaw, as well as a hero of the people and the best one at being best at everything. He’s literally saving the country and the economy as we speak.
Given that, being mad at him for beating our girl is the only plausible reason we might oppose him.
Well personally, even though I’m republican, I havent really “liked” a candidate since Reagan. It’s just that I’ve disliked the democratic choices even more.
People need to stop think of a Presidential election as an opportunity to make a new friend. We should treat it like a job interview and ask “Which of these people will do a better job?”
I find it amazing that anyone could have looked at the two major-party candidates in 2016 and decided that Trump was better qualified for the position.
Or, using the “job interview” metaphor, how does Trump look better for the job?
Nonsense. Quite a few Latin American countries have been locking up former leaders for corruption, which demonstrates a functioning democracy and makes them look better. If it’s decided that Trump is not subject to the law because of his former position it will make us look worse than a banana republic.
March in and lock up the family of the outgoing leader is the first thing that autocratic despots do. (Unless they just flat out kill the outgoing leaders and their families). If we were hearing about any other country where that happened, it wouldn’t be seen as a bright new stage, but the beginning of their slide into tyranny.
Republicans didn’t think there would be another Democrat in the White House. Then in 1992 a non-veteran defeated a war hero who’d had a 90% approval rating. Because Democrats didn’t beat Republicans over the head about it, there was 24 years of seething.
I’m not in favor of prosecuting Trump for stuff he did as president, I’m in favor of prosecuting stuff he did before he was president, and stuff that had nothing to do with him being president. Like lying on his loan forms. And of course covering up crimes he did before while he was president.
It’s not like there isn’t enough stuff to lock him up for a long time without setting a bad precedent.
I think you mean is. Carter is doing OK with his charities. He’s in his nineties, but he’s still actively involved with Habitat for Humanity. Wouldn’t it be great if that was the expected role of all former presidents?
I, for one, don’t like Trump because he uses an unsecured phone. Lock him up!
I would also gladly support criminal prosecution of Trump (as just one example, he is a co-conspirator in election fraud crimes for which Michael Cohen is currently doing prison time). I’m not confident that will happen, but I do have hope that he will be tied up in lawsuits for the remainder of his miserable life.
I also predict that trump branded products will get a big display at WalMart, but will be considered tacky and cheap junk by discerning shoppers.
And that Donald ends up putting his presidential library at Mar A Lago, for lack of any benefactors who want to be associated with it. The place sort of becomes like Graceland in terms of odd and garish tourist attractions. It’s also the only Presidential library who’s papers consist entirely of tweets.
The family? I have a real hard time imagining Ivanka or Don Jr holding office, but I’m certain that both have thought of it. So, who knows, maybe some senate or house races? I doubt we’ll see much of the others - Melania will go back to feasting on diamonds in her tower in New York. Barron will randomly appear in some news story in 15 years (maybe a wedding or something) and we’ll be surprised to see how he turned out. Eric will audition to play Sloth in a reboot of the Goonies. Tiffany will still look weird.
You’re making the wrong analogy. When democratic regimes replace autocratic despots, they rightfully prosecute the leaders of the former government for their crimes. Impunity for crimes just because of someone’s position is an abdication of the rule of law. As I said, many Latin American governments have legitimately prosecuted and sometimes convicted former leaders for corruption. Here in Panama, the former president Ricardo Martinelli was recently tried for corruption during his presidency. People are extremely pissed off that he wasn’t convicted, since they are increasingly fed up with corrupt governments.
Another way to consider how absurd this claim is: imagine if Trump hadn’t won the election. Despite the unprecedented racism and xenophobia, mocking of the disabled, incitements of violence, etc. – *people who opposed Trump would now be remembering him fondly, because he didn’t win the election.
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As I said upthread, they’re projecting how they felt when Bill Clinton won.
If Trump is defeated, in order to avoid lengthy and costly legal battles that may last the rest of his life, his best move would be to cut a deal with Pence to pardon him after he resigns before the next President is sworn in. That would be a comprehensive get out of jail free card.
Several European ones as well, for corruption and for other things.
That certain people aren’t subject to prosecution while they hold whatever jobs protect them from it, does not mean they aren’t subject to prosecution once they leave the jobs. The Spanish books have specific crimes for “abusing an elected position” and “accepting bribes while a public officer”: that the abused power and the bribes took place while one was in an unprosecutable job actually makes the crimes worse.
And in the case of the Trumps, the items that Miller investigated took place before the election: does being elected make someone unprosecutable for anything they ever did? Maybe Polanski should run for POTUS!