What's the appeal of Big Bang Theory?

This show has recently tied Numb3rs as the #1 show everyone thinks I would like just because I have a degree in physics. (I just recently finished my Ph.D.) I’ve also seen more than one poster on here mentioning it as one of their favorites.

So recently I tried to watch an episode, and I only made it one scene in before giving up and changing the channel. Now, I realize that may not be a fair sampling. So tell me, why is it worth giving another chance (or is it)?

In the scene I saw, one character didn’t know what he was going to do tomorrow (or something like that), and made some joke like “I’m like one of Heisenberg’s particles. I can tell where I am, or where I’m going, but not both at once.”

There are several reasons why this bothered me:

Apparently I’m supposed to be amused that the show is referencing Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle. Why, exactly? They didn’t even bother to make the joke funny – in fact, there doesn’t even seem to be any joke there beyond “Ha ha, this guy is such a geek he references Heisenberg in his casual conversation.”

The thing is, it is possible to make a funny joke out of the Uncertainty Principle. When I was in college, someone had graffitied the wall of the men’s room in the Physics Building with “Heisenberg might have been here.” Now that made me laugh. But notice how it’s actually kind of subtle. It doesn’t explain the joke (which is essential when the humor is derived from the audience picking up on an obscure reference). It also references pop culture (“Kilroy was here”), rather than merely saying “Guess what, we physics students can namedrop concepts from quantum mechanics.” Looking at why that joke was funny shines a spotlight on why Big Bang Theory’s joke wasn’t.

Not only does explaining the joke ruin whatever humor there might have been, but it also isn’t remotely true to the characters. They’re supposed to be some sort of physics prodigies, right? When the one character started elaborating with “I can’t know my position and …” the other one should have jumped in with “Yeah, I get it, I’ve known about Heisenberg since I was 12!” It’s actually not an obscure reference at all to anyone who has even read a few popular books about physics.

Moreover, he wasn’t even getting the physics right with his reference. Saying “Heisenberg’s particles” makes it sound like Heisenberg discovered some new particles that obey the uncertainty principle. In fact, Heisenberg was talking about ordinary particles. You know, atoms and electrons and what not. I’ve never once heard someone actually use the phrase “Heisenberg’s particles”.

If they wanted to make the joke funnier, maybe they could have had an exchange like this:

Character 1: Hey, where do you think you’ll be tomorrow at 2:00?
Character 2: Even if I knew, I still wouldn’t know where I was going.
Character 1: Dammit, Heisenberg!

Just leave it at that, no explanation given. Of course, most T.V. viewers wouldn’t get it. But the thing is, they won’t really get it anyway. I mean, if you’ve never heard of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, then the whole joke just boils down to “Wow, he just referenced some law of physics I’ve never heard of. What a geek!” Is this really that funny to anyone?

But beyond that, what turned me off to the show was that the humor is apparently derived from a bunch of physics geeks not knowing how to act like human beings. The thing is, physicists aren’t actually like that. Other than the fact that they actually like learning about physics, most of them are pretty normal. My first year of grad school we all had a required quantum mechanics class in the late morning, and then a required seminar in the afternoon. In between, a bunch of us would go have a beer at one of the campus bars, gripe about how much work our professors were assigning, and talk about our plans for the weekend. I know, what freakish nerds we all were, right?

I get that T.V. sitcoms aren’t concerned with realism, and characters are bound to be exaggerated and stereotyped for humorous effects. But the whole “scientists have no social skills” thing isn’t even remotely original. It’s trite and obvious. If the show was all about how fat people are a bunch of food obsessed gluttons whose furniture is constantly collapsing underneath them, I would be able to say “Yes, I am familiar with those absurd sitcom conventions”, but I sure wouldn’t want to watch the show.

I realize that spending the whole post complaining about the show isn’t the best way to solicit positive feedback from its fans. But really, I do know that I only watched one scene, and I may have the complete wrong impression. So tell me, have I come to the wrong conclusion here? Or are my complaints about the show accurate, but it nevertheless has positive qualities that more than make up for the flaws?

Well, it isn’t a half an hour of physics jokes. They have all kinds of different geeky references, funny plots, and good chemistry between the characters.

I gave this show a chance because a few friends kept telling me I’d love it. The first episode felt forced and while I chuckled a few times it really wasn’t spectacular. I watched about 2 more episodes to see if this was just a poor pilot, but it was pretty consistently mediocre.

The laugh track is incredibly irritating. I just can’t watch something with canned laughter. It’s so forced and pulls the show out of whatever comedy momentum might have been building, and makes me feel dumbed down to. It doesn’t help that in this show the laugh track hits after almost every line. It made me want to throw things at the tv.
The two main characters are great but the actress playing their neighbor falls flat. It’s really irritating how cliched she is and she had zero charisma. A brilliant guy wouldn’t be able to stand her for more than a moment. Why not a really hot yet equally brilliant artist or something? They could definitely play off the rigidity of a scientist personality with a charismatic, beautiful, intelligent woman who doesn’t know much physics but has other talents. It’s just stupid and I had no desire to see that group of people again.

The show completely failed to win me over.

I watch the show occasionally because I’m a physics PhD candidate living in an apartment with other physics students, so I kind of like it that my lifestyle is seen as TV-worthy. But that said, I agree, its a pretty crappy sit-com. There are one or two funny episodes, but other then that I really don’t understand it’s popularity.

I disagree with this though:

certainly most physicists are fairly normal, but there’s a decent number that are more socially awkward, quirkier and generally eccentric then normal. And indeed in the show, there’s only one main character that’s really weird, the others are more or less normal with some geekier then average hobbies.

Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock

I think you nailed it, Tim. I find the show extremely not funny. I think the people who watch it *say *they enjoy it because of the geek jokes/references, but secretly they watch because they want to be told they ultimately have a chance with the Penny in their life.

To me it’s a typical sitcom that just happens to be set in a world of geekery.

Leanard is a regular guy who secretly pines for the girl next door but lacks the courage to go after her.

Raj is a regular guy who is insecure around girls unless he gets some alcohol in him then he’s Don Jaun.

Howard is a good guy but tries way too hard to get the ladies and thus comes off creepily.

Sheldon is a good guy but he is just in his own world and like most single children wants things done his way.

Penny was a stuck up hottie who has warmed up to the guys over time and now thinks of them, despite their quirks, as buddies.

I’m not really into physics so a lot of that goes over my head but there is also a lot of comic book and video game references that I do get and can laugh at.

One of the best moments was when all the guys dressed up as Flash for Halloween and then they followed each other around all night in a single line to make it look like there was just one flash but they were moving so fast that everyone else saw multiple images of him.

My ex watches it a lot, I bemoan the unequal balance between the little geeky balance and the ever present Penny. I sort of miss having cable and being able to watch Chuck.

Thing is, that’s the bit everyone points to when asked why they like the show, but the …Lizard Spock game predates the sitcom, and the joke Big Bang Theory adds to it (hey, the nerds always throw Spock) isn’t that funny.

The show has occasional good moments. Especially when they are doing cool geeky stuff that I myself would want to do. Or have done, such as the improved rock paper scissors.

There are 2 reasons I would not recommend it to anyone.

  1. What the OP says. The show doesn’t really make physics jokes. It just makes pointless physics references, mostly.

  2. Like 40% of the show consists of:
    Sheldon: bla bla bla
    Other character: Lame sarcastic comment
    Laugh track.

I think real geeks would at least appreciate Sheldon, not just be constant jerks to him, even if he is annoying.

Ok 3 reasons.
They don’t get stuff right. Couldn’t they have at least one actual smart person look over the script?
Take the clip just posted. Rock paper scissors doesn’t tie 80% of the time or what he said, that’s ridiculous. The main problem with it is that if you are more than 3 players, it breaks down.

That’s fair. But the thing is, more “socially awkward than normal” is still light-years away from the “emotion does not compute” stereotype so often seen on T.V. Maybe I’m a little over sensitive because I’m already annoyed with Bones (another show I just recently discovered) for the same thing.

Sheldon has a sister.

The o.p. pretty much nailed why this show is unfunny to physicists (or people with significant science knowledge); in order to make it accessible to a general audience they’ve had to dumb down the jokes sufficiently to translate to the average viewer. The result is humor that is tepid at best and not at all the types of technical nerd-jokes that physicists would actually tell each other. It’s a t.v. script editor’s idea of the type of jokes physics wonks would tell. Unfortunately, that sort of humor is very difficult to do well, 'cause if you have to explain the joke, not only is the punch lost but most people still won’t get it. I told a joke the other day about Tsai-Wu criteria, but only someone versed in damage evaluation of composite matrix materials using finite element modeling would have a clue as to what I was talking about. About the only genuine nerd comedy I can think of that was both (relatively) technically accurate and yet appealing to a general audience is Real Genius.

As far as personalities, I’ve met a number of genuine oddballs in the hard sciences and technical fields, probably more than would at least be successful in other fields. However, they’re hardly all the stereotypical nebbishes portrayed in the show in question any more than real private investigators drive around in this model year’s sports car and live on palatial estates and beachfront houses. Exaggerated stereotypes are part of the quote-humor-unquote of sitcoms, and has been since The Honeymooners and I Love Lucy.

Stranger

They didn’t follow each other around- they only discussed doing that.

They then changed costumes so that Leonard was Frodo, Raj was Thor (I forget if he was supposed to by the Nordic myth version or the Marvel version), Howard was Robin Hood but constantly mistaken for Peter Pan, and Sheldon was the Doppler Effect.

Not only that, but she’s a twin. His Mom once referred to other siblings, but I don’t recall if any more details have been given.

You shoulda stuck with spherical chickens in a vacuum. Slays ‘em every time.

I like the show, but I like traditional sit-coms in general. I get the feeling that those most turned off by the show don’t actual enjoy any sit-coms (or maybe they only like the new no-laughter, single-camera style).

If a laugh track is a huge obstacle to you, don’t bother with the show. If you want all the characters to be believable and similar to yourself and the people you know, don’t bother.

If you like overblown situations and over-the-top characters with jokes, this one’s a good one.

Yes, they sometimes get science a bit wrong, or over-explain things. But I choose to love that they usually get it right, and often don’t explain them at all, trusting that the audience will know when they’ve made a joke. I’m not one to stew over one sour punchline in a show that got 30 honest laughs out of me.

“'Cause it makes the math easier! Get it? Okay, okay, okay; an astrophysicist, a statistician, and nuclear engineer walk into a bar…”

Stranger

I played D&D well into my 20’s, recognized the Talisman game they were playing, am familiar with a lot of the equations on the eraser board thanks to my Math degree, and have known or been like most of the characters so can sympathize with many of their ‘spider-man vs. batman’ like conundrums. The show speaks to me even when it isn’t trying to be funny.

If you don’t care for it, I can’t convince you.

Another “ignore the physics, just watch the show” vote. It works not because they’re physicists but because the plots, the characters, and the ongoing dynamics between them are funny. The funniest moments (Howard’s never seen but ‘boy is she heard’ mom, Leslie-needs-sex, Sheldon’s unexpected Nimoy DNA gift, etc.) are character driven, not physics.

Now if you don’t like sitcoms, the fact two of the main characters are physicists isn’t going to help. For that matter I’m gay but I was never a fan of Will & Grace or the movie The Birdcage and in part because of the gay issue- I thought the characters were stereotypical, unrealistic, the producers gutless on the relationship issues, and probably would have liked the show or the movie better if I were straight. So, physics could be your gay in watching Big Bang Theory.