What's the Catholic viewpoint on sex before marriage?

Not in GQ. Do not do this again.

-xash
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I wonder if this has changed or if I’m just in a relatively liberal diocese. I was married in the church in 1998, and we were told that (I’m paraphrasing here) ANY activity is not sinful as long as it is (a) mutually consensual and (b) within the bonds of marriage (no threeways, darn). Handjobs, oral, anal are all cool, as long as it is an expression of our love and not an attempt to avoid conception. Coitus interruptus is still a no-no if intended to prevent pregnancy. (If you and your partner are mutually into facials presumably it’s still okay). Also out is any artificial contraception.

They were also very adamant that the aforementioned natural family planning is not the rhythm method. It’s the inspecting the vaginal mucus to determine if ovulation is ocurring method, also used by some fertiliy doctors to help people conceive.

If you engage in anal sex, the man’s penis should not go anywhere else - including the vagina - until it has been cleaned really well. Nothing to do with religion; just trying to keep eveyone healthy.

Goes to show that obeying the church on birth control seemed easier to follow than on sex.
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I’ve been told by a demographer that abortion by Catholics equals that of non-Catholics in the US.

Heh. Read this post immediately after reading the “Power Washer” thread. Thought I’d share. :slight_smile:

That may be something that more liberal dioceses (is that the correct plural?) allow… however I had a conversation with a very Catholic friend in which the subject of blowjobs came up sorry, I had to and she said “Blowjobs are OK, but not to the point of ejaculation. That would be Onanism!”. I had to ask her to explain. IIRC, Onan was an old-testiment guy who was smitten by the Lord because he “spilled his seed on the ground”. So bj’s are fine for foreplay but yeah, ejaculation is allowed one place and one place only. No facials, sorry!

My friend didn’t comment on whether the girl is allowed to “fully enjoy” being the recipient of oral sex :smiley:

Recovering Catholic here. I studied all my life in a Catholic schools where the teachers were Sisters of Mercy. We didn’t get any sex ed until the final year of high school, where they, knowing that some of us would ‘stray’, gave us the same course received by couples that will be married by the church. They told exactly what Chock says above. It is is called the Billings Method.

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Peace.

Talk about killing the mood! What do you do, break out the magnifying glass and test tubes?

Well, I don’t believe that there really is an absolute requirement that every marital ejaculation be intravaginal, but rather that it is the next simplest explanation beyond “no non-coital sex at all ever” for the doctrine that there is a marital duty to always leave yourself open to the possibility of procreation. The Catechism (paras. 2351-2379) does contain injunctions against all forms of nonmarital or extramarital sex, against rape, against masturbation, against homosexual acts, and against “inordinate lust for pleasure for its own sake” (lechery, in the old – and my preferred – translation of the seven deadlies), and even against IVF even when using the spouses’ own gametes (“a child is a gift, not a right”). But it does NOT explicitly mention a ban on specific noncoital acts between spouses: just that their sex life must be open to procreation.

Well, I have to admit that however lacking the sex ed I got in school they more than made up for it with that last course. If I ignore the preaching and nonsense the rest was good advice on healthy habits and such. I am using Billings right now to increase my chances for conception. You only need to check your underwear, the mucus is visible to the naked eye.

It’s usually done daily upon waking up in the morning, especially if one is adding tracking basal temperature changes in order to pinpoint ovulation (the sympto-thermal method), in that case, you don’t need a test tube, but a thermometer.

Peace.

I know several of them. For some good heavy reading on the Church’s stance on sexuality, check out the Pope’s Theology of the Body. For some more explanatory reading, check out Christopher West.

To best understand it, it shouldn’t be thought of in terms of “don’t do this” and “don’t do that”, but the Church’s view of sex as being for the purpose of procreation and expressing the love between a husband and wife should be considered.

So, if anal sex is okay, does Catholic doctrine accept the use of condoms to prevent disease and ease the cleanup for anal sex? It’s not preventing pregnancy, obviously, when used in this manner.