whats wrong with me?

I’ll apologize for the “snooping” accusations since they volunteered the information to you. I’ll also acknowlege that a 15 year old shouldn’t be working 40 hours a week.

May I ask why a 15-year old needed a 40 hour a week job? What could you possible need that required this level of income?

As for the “snap of the fingers” demand for money, you said that your family was “haSSAling” your for the past year to get a job so it doesn’t sound too immediate. I suspect there’s been plenty of warnings (in the form of a year’s worth of “haSSAling”).

As far as the clothes go, you said they’re cutting off your allowance. Where’d all the money go? Why haven’t you saved? Spending it at the mall? Where’s the clothes?

You still seem to be taking joy in the idea that your choice of workplace pisses off your parents. You seem to think you’re entitled to a share of what your parents have earned. Grow up, get your ass in gear, stop being a sponge, and start taking care of business.

Oh, and learn to spell.

Wow, Belrix. Very, very motivational speech. Have you considered a career as one of those guys on a streetcorner haranguing passers-by?

I’m really curious; someone posts here looking for advice on ways to get out of a difficult and upsetting situation. What possible reason can there be for insulting them, belittling their situation, and acting haughtily superior? What good do you think it will do? Several posters have done it; to what end?

Because he asked us to.
It has nothing to do with acting “superior”. People are just telling him that no matter how much he likes living at home, to become an adult, you have to join the real world and work. Yeh, work sucks moose dick, but its pretty cool being able to afford your own shit without someone on your ass all the time.

So do Canadian Provinces not have some sort of regulation/law prohibiting (full-time) students under legal age (and/or some other age as as well) from working unless the employer has a permit for them?

I cannot see how WalMart can legally employ a 15-year old high school student for 40 hours a week without a student employment permit from a regulatory agency authorizing your employment. The purposes of the permit are to ensure such students spend their time as students, have time off from school and cannot be exploited by the employer (and to another extent, their parents).

Having said that, here’s my suggestion for you about taking a year off to work after graduating from high school before going on to college:

Join the Canadian Army. :slight_smile:

Yup! They’ll provide free room and board (all the chow you can eat, too), free medical care, travel opportunities, job training – and pay you for it. You’ll learn discipline (I think you need it), you’ll get away from your parents, force yourself to grow up, you might save some cash (providing you follow through with that discipline in every other aspect of your life), and after you get out, you will have a better perspective about life and in general, and yourself in particular.

First off, PLEASE quit with the u don’t no how it 2 B blah blah blah.

Please, I’m begging you.

I’m 24. I still live at home, but I work at Kmart part time, I just graduated from college, and I’m paying off my student loans while looking for a job. Guess what? There isn’t THAT much out there, at least for someone with a Bachelors in History.

But I’m trying. Yeah, I bitch a lot, but what can you do?

Also…the whole, “I worked forty hours a week at Walmart when I was fifteen plus high school…” I smell a rat. There is NO WAY IN HELL you could have worked more than 18 hours a week at age 15. I don’t know what labor laws are like in Canada, although I can’t imagine that child labor laws are THAT much different from the US that they would allow this. NO freaking WAY!

Bolding mine.

Oh please. I too live at home rent free. I help out around the house, I work, I do my stuff. AND until recently, I went to school as well. Boo fecking hoo.

Do you want us to feel sorry for you? Sorry, no. I pay for all my stuff. My family helped out with paying for college, but as far as loan payments, and books and school supplies, I paid for that out of my own wallet. Same with clothes, books, anything else I want.

I have panic attacks. I’ve had to call off work or go home early because of them. But I work around them-fortunately, I have an understanding manager, who lets me set my hours so that I work a lot of little shifts, rather than one major one.

But what’s wrong with you?

Nothing. Except that you don’t seem to want to grow up. Sorry, but it’s the truth.
Life’s a bitch, ain’t it?

why does my spelling and the way i type on a message board matter? its not like im writing a damn essay

now that i think of it, i did get a workers permit signed by my school and parents, wal-mart never asked for it even though i mentioned it to them.
i think it said for 25 hours a week at the most
theres not much u can do about complaining about ur hours there because its not with a union…( or something along those lines)they actually passed around a paper that they made the cashiers sign to work 40 hours a week because it was christmas season…i never signed it, but they still made me work 40 a week after i complained and bitch to them that i can’t afford to do that with my marks at school…they didnt listen after 3 weeks, so i quit.

I had that job at 15 because i wanted extra money to have fun. at the time i had a little bit of a drug problem as well (which i don’t anymore so the to comment that i well end up as some drugged up bum on the street will not happen beacause i refuse to do that kind of torture to myself again) if u dont believe that they made me work that much, ill scan my pay stubs and show u to prove that im not a “rat”.

my allowance that i got was $100 a month
yes i smoke (some people have their flaws)
i also drive everywhere because none of my friends have liscences and theyre all turning 18 if they havent already. (be thankful i wasnt THAT lazy)…so if i want to see any of my friends, i have to drive.
my gas money each week was $10 which got me half a tank
so the rest of my allowance was put towards extra gas to put in the car, or going out to an occasional cheap movie or coffee. i dont buy any other food. as for clothes, the only time i ever have enough to money to purchase clothes was at christmas or my birthday. the only clothing i do buy with that allowance is a bra once in a while which is $40 (im not one of those fortunate people who has small breasts and can by any cheap bra they want from La Senza)

ive thought about the army, but ive screwed my knee and ankle pretty badly so thats out of the question.

So yes i am taking a year off to work full time (as crappy as it is) to save money for school because i refuse to get a student loan.
my parents and grandparents have put aside $2000 for me already, other then that, like Guinastasia, i will have to pay for everything else as well.
cough by the way, im a girl

Feh. My parents cut me off at 16. I worked full time (doing telephone surveys - tell me that didn’t suck) during the summers until I graduated high school, then worked full time while going to college (on a full tuition academic scholarship, because I worked my ass off in high school), and graduated debt-free and with a car I owned outright.

There’s no free ride. Get used to it. But it’s worth it.

Because if it’s indicative of your spelling, grammar and typing skills, your job resources are limited. I would have recommended a clerical temp agency, which is a fast way to get employment, lets you have a fairly flexible schedule, and can lead to permanent employment–but you have to pass spelling, grammar and typing tests.

Besides, how you present yourself matters–in fact, it matters perhaps more than your skills in seeking employment.

$100 a month?! And you have no clothes and can’t pay for your own gas? That’s… amazing. How much does a movie and coffee cost in Canada?!

Anyway, what I did whenever I was looking for a job was to get the Sunday paper (in my area, that was the one that had the most employment ads), mark the ones I thought I was a good candidate for, and call/send resumes/fill out applications first thing Monday. The more jobs you apply for, the higher your chances of getting hired. Maybe you’re reluctant to look, but whenever anything is difficult, the best thing to do is face it head on and get it over with.

A few typos are excusable. I don’t believe people here are Grammar Police. You childlike scribblings just makes you appear illiterate.
Shit, I hate work too. I come into an office and spend 99% of my day surfing the net and seeing how many bananas I can eat (we get free coffee, bananas and other fruit in our break rooms). Sure I’d rather be spending my time doing other stuff (like nothing) but you gotta work.

Another way of looking at it…

Making that big step and taking responsibility for yourself IS daunting. I was the same when I first left school and started work, and used to send myself crazy with panic. Even to this day, when I apply for another job or go for an interview, I still get that sensation of worry in the bottom of my stomach.

BUT… once you’ve done it, you won’t want to turn back. Having some responsibility gives you a sense of purpose in life, and a regular income gives you a lot of freedom. When I look back on things, all the worry was well worth it. Although I almost filled my pants at interview time, I’ve got a nice apartment to show for it, the ability to come and go as I please, and a little money left over each month to put into savings or treat myself with.

Look at things in the longer term. In other words, think of how your efforts will pay off in the end.

“”""“i ended up going insane with anxiety attacks and quiting
so i was 15 when i did that
now ill be 18 in 16 days and have yet to have a job since…”""""

Did your anxiety stop?

“”""""did working at walmart that last time scare me for life of ever working again?
am i just one of those people who could never possibly like working?
am i just too used to relying on my parents or just too damn lazy?

i dont understand"""""

The concept of work is simple:

If an activity makes you unaviodably suicidal with exponential increase each passing moment; then you are working. at which point you will stop working before existential collapse or commit suicide

If that is not the case; then you are not actually working. at which point you get the perk of stealing snide judgements regarding how many activities you do; and that they must somehow equate to work

I can’t quite tell you which situation is worse; you’ll have to choose that one for yourself =)

-Justhink

apparently we do have grammar police here…
i would have u know ive achieved NUMBEROUS english awards for my essays and the way i write…BUT since this is NOT a classroom and u people are NOT my teacher, i dont really give a shit about how i type on MESSAGE BOARD. typing like the way i do on here, i can get to about 85 words per min, typing “properly” i can get about 70-75. so im quite sure im pretty i can pass those grammar n spelling tests to get employed that had been mentioned BEFORE (happy?).

w0u1d y0u r4th3r m3 typ3 l1k3 th1s?

the first time i got anxiety attacks was at walmart and now i get them if i realize i wont get enough sleep that night…im forced to hide my clock at night so i cant see what time it is so i dont flip out.

the cheap movies i was referring to are 3 dollars
i refuse to pay more then $5 for any movie. coffee was never more then $5 either…what i mean by coffee is going to second cup for a speciality coffee or dellati everyone once in a while. I also dont live right in the heart of the city, im out in the suburbs so i have to drive at least 20 mins to do anything.

anyways…
I had made myself a list of jobs when i looked in the classifieds, one of them for the sex shop. my brother told me to apply there cuz it would be funny so i did and i got 2 interviews out of it and 95% chance that i have the job, i just need to wait for the call on monday or tuesday. i didnt bother applying anywhere else because it seemed to be going so well at that one place.

one thing that’s been keeping me going a bit to finding a job is my love for graphic designing and interior design. i cant wait to have my own appartment or loft so i can make it look like whatever i want it to.

apparently we do have grammar police here…
i would have u know ive achieved NUMBEROUS english awards for my essays and the way i write…BUT since this is NOT a classroom and u people are NOT my teacher, i dont really give a shit about how i type on MESSAGE BOARD. typing like the way i do on here, i can get to about 85 words per min, typing “properly” i can get about 70-75. so im quite sure im pretty i can pass those grammar n spelling tests to get employed that had been mentioned BEFORE (happy?).

w0u1d y0u r4th3r m3 typ3 l1k3 th1s?

the first time i got anxiety attacks was at walmart and now i get them if i realize i wont get enough sleep that night…im forced to hide my clock at night so i cant see what time it is so i dont flip out.

the cheap movies i was referring to are 3 dollars
i refuse to pay more then $5 for any movie. coffee was never more then $5 either…what i mean by coffee is going to second cup for a speciality coffee or dellati everyone once in a while. I also dont live right in the heart of the city, im out in the suburbs so i have to drive at least 20 mins to do anything.

anyways…
I had made myself a list of jobs when i looked in the classifieds, one of them for the sex shop. my brother told me to apply there cuz it would be funny so i did and i got 2 interviews out of it and 95% chance that i have the job, i just need to wait for the call on monday or tuesday. i didnt bother applying anywhere else because it seemed to be going so well at that one place.

one thing that’s been keeping me going a bit to finding a job is my love for graphic designing and interior design. i cant wait to have my own appartment or loft so i can make it look like whatever i want it to.

Why do you think your teachers are attempting to teach you how to type that way? It’s not because they get some perverse pleasure out of it. It’s because that’s how adults actually communicate out in the real world.

ive never had a teacher teach me how to type
because i can switch from either way of typing

by the way thanks for going completely off topic people

Trancey, I’m 37 years old, and I’m scared because I’m not working (I got laid off a week ago). I am taking seriously, so let me give you my take on things.

You asked

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why does my spelling and the way i type on a message board matter? its not like im writing a damn essay

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No, but the only way we have to know you is by how and what you type. For better or worse, you are making an impression, just as the clothes you wear would if you were meeting someone in real life. Now, I don’t know what it is you’re looking for here at SDMB, friends, advice, or simply somewhere to let off steam, but your style of typing is the equivalent of turning up in the rattiest old pair of shorts and t-shirt you can find. As I told a teenage friend once, it’s not that people will think you’re smart if you use correct grammar; it’s that they’ll think you’re stupid if you don’t.

Working retail is tough, as Guinastasia, I, or any number of other people on this board can tell you. I’ve worked 12 hour days in a department store at Christmas and days which felt 12 hours long at a McDonald’s. I’ve also worked at that department store while having anxiety attacks myself and covered them so well that a co-worker complimented me on my confidence. This surprised me because I had none at the time. The problem is, that’s where a lot of jobs available to teenagers with no work experience are. I can’t see how working in a sex shop would be any better, especially for a young woman. I don’t know much about these things, but I’d be worried about getting too much unwanted attention. Considering I got a bit of that at McDonald’s ( :o ), I’d say it’s a fair concern.

As to expecting you to work, you’ve got to understand that I’m from a long line of Lancashire peasants. I have a hard time understanding not working. Taking a year off to raise money for college is a good idea, but you may not be able to get a good job. You say you’re interested in graphic and interior design and you’ve majored in it in high school. Have you looked into any companies in your area which do that sort of work? Even if you get a job as a clerk, which you should stand a pretty good job of doing if you type as fast as you say, you can still learn a lot and build some connections for later. Also, if you can’t stand the idea of working retail, look into temp agencies. Office work can be better than retail, but check with your parents about the temporary aspect. One point to use is temporary work can turn out to be for longer than originally planned, or even permanent if your work’s good enough. That, by the way, is from personal experience. I wouldn’t go back to that WalMart, but I’m afraid they’re not the only business which looks askance at labor laws.

Money management, I’m afraid, is part of life. I’m one of the people raising their eyebrows at your allowance, simply because I haven’t received one since I got my first job at 16. Even when I was in college, I held down a 20 hour a week job, first in the cafeteria, then in the college’s East Asian Library because all my parents paid for was housing, some food, and tuition. Smoking’s expensive, but you already know that. I’ve also talked to people who’ve given up drinking and cigarettes and there’s no question in my mind which is harder to quit.

Look, you’re welcome to call me a nasty, old bitch and compare me to the worst of your teachers if you like. Believe me, I’ve been called worse! Looking for work and starting a new job is hard, and it is frightening. It also doesn’t get any easier as you get older, as I’m finding out the hard way. So, put a list of your best qualifications together, using language that would leave us humble Dopers in awe of your eloquence, practice your best “I’m the best employee you’ve ever seen or will see again look” (mine adds at least 6 inches to my height), and face the world knowing at least some of us are behind you. If it helps, I’ll be doing the same thing on Monday. Who knows, if we both pull this off, maybe a few years from now you’ll be the hot new designer who’s going to do the graphics for the latest indispensable database I’ve designed.

Good luck,
CJ

All that, and I used the wrong smiley. Please replace :o with :eek:

CJ

Frankly, I don’t give a shit: if you don’t want anyone to be able to read what you say, that’s your business.

And what I meant was, how could you possibly go through $100–no, $140, since your parents gave you $10/week for gasoline–in one month if you only go to a $5 movie and buy a cup of coffee once in a while? If that’s all you really spend it on, what couldn’t you buy yourself clothes or tuck some of it away in a savings account?

And if they hire someone else you’ll have wasted an entire week. Briliant.

I give up.

Ok, guys, I think you’re being a little hard on the spelling here. Yes, her typing does look childish, but it’s only because she doesn’t capitalize and doesn’t use apostrophes. Up until a couple weeks ago I never capitalized when I typed on the boards either, just because it was easier, but I got yelled at on the board, so I stopped. So just because she types in lowercase doesn’t make her illiterate or whatever. It would be nice of her, and respectful of her, to not do that, but it’s not a big thing.

Back to the major point. I don’t think her parents should have cut her off all in one fell swoop, but then I don’t know the circumstances here…maybe they’ve been trying to get you to take some responsibility already and pay for stuff, Trancey, but you’ve been unwilling to find a job and do so, so they have to set a deadline? If this is the case, then I don’t have much sympathy.

I know that it’s hard to get motivated. I just graduated college and am on my first long-term 40 hr a week job, plus some other random jobs. I know how hard it is to send resumes and go on interviews all the time. But it has to be done. Ever since I’ve had my car I’ve been responsible for paying for gas and fixing it. The first year my father paid my insurance **on loan **, which I’m just starting to be able to pay back.

Ever since I started high school I was responsible for any non-necessities (movies, books -and lots of them! - , etc). When I got to college I had to pay for all my clothes as well. It’s just a fact of life that sooner or later you have to start paying for yourself. If your parents have been trying to get you weaned on this for a while, then a deadline may be the only way to get you self-sufficient (moderately, since you don’t have to pay rent). If this is out of the blue, then it’s a bit much, but from what I’ve heard, that isn’t the case.

Yeah, me too Guinastasia. Too many, “did I mention…” and too many excuses that are rodent-like. Might we have a troll?

Trancey, if you are indeed sincere, which I have serious doubts, I would suggest you listen to my fellow board members. They have a wealth of experience. They have volunteered their time here to give you intelligent and well-thought-out suggestions.

That those suggestions may step on your toes is part and parcel of life. But the members of SDMB are generally as polite as they can be (outside of the Pit) and for the most part, those responding to you have been.

I have a hunch that you won’t be around long, but while you are here, learn what you can and take the lessons where they come. Who knows, it might help you (unless you already know it all).

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