Wheelchairs aren't people, they are equipment.

Interesting idea, but I wouldn’t do that to anyone who’s about to stick sharp instruments in my mouth.

That is a legitimate flaw in my plan.

Some of them are. :smiley:

People with a chronic condition or disability hear stupid shit all the time; I can understand why the OP finally got annoyed enough to Pit this.

(I have chronic migraine. I have to restrain myself from verbally incinerating any dope who asks if I’ve seen a doctor. :smack: )

Yeah, the assistant at my dentist says “Good job!” when I get through an appointment without leaving before they’re done or hitting the dentist. (Seriously, she said, “You did great!” after an appointment where I screamed.)

My SO has these crazy sinus headaches, which could be a migraine, for all I know. He doesn’t know either, because HE REFUSES TO GO TO THE DOCTOR!

I don’t understand why an otherwise very sensible, responsible man refuses to go tot he doctor. I just don’t!

Not that that excuses people from asking you over and over again, but I think lots of people don’t go.

I’m sure if he been guilty of being an ignorant, but well intentioned person. I think it would be fair to say that most people don’t have a lot of experience with wheelchair bound people. They draw on the little they may know or failing that, they are extra annoyingly kind, because they don’t know what else to do. I can see how that would be exhausting. I think if you expect the general public to know how to help or not help you, you’re going to be disappointed over and over again. Everyone has to meet new people and you have to teach them how to treat you and you are no different. Sorry, I don’t like it either.

My sister in law used to compliment me on my hair. “Did you do it yourself? Good for you!” Then I remembered she works with grade school kids all day, so this is her default conversational style. Maybe your hygienist does a lot of pediatric work, who knows?

I’ve read that most sinus headaches are migraines. (In fact, I was dx’d with migraines initially after I said to my doctor “That new Tylenol sinus stuff is crap. Doesn’t do a thing for my sinus headaches.” )

Well, he’s a man. A whole lot of them aren’t the best at going to the doctor.

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^ This.

While wearing his “It still works” with the downpointing arrow t-shirt. Let’s not be too subtle here.

Replace “wheelchair bound people” with “black people” and re-read your paragraph.

The problem isn’t lack of experience with “wheelchair bound people”, it’s assumptions and prejudice.

The general public doesn’t need to know how to help a disabled person, the general public need only ask “do you need help?”. Then let the disabled person say what their needs are. See, isn’t that simple? You, yourself, don’t need to know jack shit. You just have to listen to the human being in front of you.*

  • Of course, it gets more complicated with disabled people with communication difficulties, but that’s a separate sub-category and even then, a lot of them can write, indicate yes or no with head movements, and so forth.

Hmm… maybe she was a devotee. :wink:

JK. I get your general beef here. As a practical matter, I’ve seen “I can let you know if I need anything” be effective in squelching it somewhat.

Do they run ahead so they can make a big show of opening the door for you?

I’m fine with people opening the door for me in a way that indicates “there is two of us here, I’ve noticed you, I’m holding the door for both of us” but take offense at being cut off by someone in ohmygodthereisawomanImustgetaheadofhersoIcanopenthedooranddemonstrateI’magentleman mode (which I’ve frequently encountered in southern Spain) or by some asshole who only opens doors for the woman he’s actively courting (which I used to encounter in the US).

One is courteous, the other one is seeing me as a vagina surrounded by bouncy bits.

I just wanted to say “vagina surrounded by bouncy bits” had me laughing. It’s so apt, so sad, and so funny all at the same time. An excellent turn of phrase, and all the more impressive because, if I recall, English is not your first language.

Yawn. Another chapter in the never ending saga about Angry Wheelchair Guy vs The World. No I don’t sympathize. At all. He treats his wheelchair as a licence to be an asshole. Pathetic little shit.

The irony is that so many able-bodied people use someone else’s wheelchair as a license to be a condescending asshole.

A truly polite and respectful person is that way even to people they don’t like, because that’s what being polite and respectful is.

You say

Yet yesterday you said

So which is it? Are you fat or are you strapping? Are you suffering from constant bouts of being condescended to or of debilitating self pity? The second quote above broke my heart when I read it and also confuses me when I read your posts in this thread.

I’ve seen pictures of Ambivalid. He’s strapping, not fat. Unless he’s totally given up his exercise regimen since I last saw the pic.

Remember, Ambi is a bodybuilder. His fat is our very fit.
Unless he really let himself go.

I bristle at the notion that Ambi is Angry Wheelchair Guy. He may have started off like that years ago, but he’s moderated his attitude a lot.

The dismissal of his feelings reminds me very much what happens to any minority person who dares to complain about how stupid people–even well-meaning ones–act around them. All you have to do is call them “Angry”, and suddenly their feelings become irrelevant. Even if their feelings are perfectly valid and understandable.

Maybe the reason this happens is that no one wants to consider that maybe they are they are the stupid, well-meaning idiot that is being talked about. It’s much easier to expect the complainer to modify his behavior and expectation level than to ask oneself, “Hey, is there anything I can learn from his rant?”

“Well-intentioned” goes without saying. Most faux pas and gaffs are committed by people who are just trying to be nice. Doesn’t mean they still can’t be stupid and annoying.

I don’t even think this is a wheelchair thing. It is just good manners to accept a stranger’s “no” the first fucking time and to treat them as a unique individual, rather than as a representative of entire “class” of people.

I didn’t say I don’t like you. In fact I said I feel like I can relate sometimes but your Johnny-one-note gripes show up in lots of other threads, too. I keep hoping you can get past your hair trigger resentment about a situation you can’t change. You’re young, you’ve got the opportunity to change your attitude about it and I think you’d be happier for it. And you wouldn’t leave other people feeling bad for “not getting it just right”, because then they resent you for creating such awkwardness. Yes, people treat us the way we teach them to. Let them remember the good things about you and the chair becomes incidental.