When did you learn White bread lacks nutrients?

I have edited my post so it makes sense. That was a particularly confusing typo. The important part was that i agree, baguettes are empty carbs.

I rarely eat bread that isn’t a tortilla or hamburger bun, but I really miss Roman Meal bread. It was probably hellaciously unhealthy but it made great sandwiches.

“Premiss” is an acceptable alternative spelling of “premise.” Whether it’s archaic or simply British, I don’t know, but the historian Ian Kershaw uses it in his works.

It’s the un-assuming, goes-with-everything, doesn’t-cause-a-fuss, baseline bread. It goes with everything. Like a basic sheet of white printer paper or the white “landlord special” wall paint. Everyone in the family might not prefer it, but everyone in the family will eat it if you put the right stuff on it. Plus it can last more than a month in a breadbox, thanks to whatever unholy ingredients it contains.

Whenever I buy anything from the bakery I get max 2 sandwiches out of it and then it’s stale or moldy, or languishing in my freezer until I remember to toss it because I don’t have time for defrosting bread.

We’re out here enjoying Chips Ahoy cookies and Kraft Macaroni & Cheese, man. Don’t be all :astonished: that we’re eating WonderBread too.

Just like cereal in the grocery stores white bread has long been enriched so not really unhealthy.

I’ve been on a Dave’s killer bread kick, and I love it the extra grains protein and the good fats, it’s too chewy and seedy for my spouse. He get PF enriched white bread.

Thank you for correcting my erroneous correction! The alternative spelling is apparently not even all that uncommon, particularly in Britain.

As a Brit, I’d say that the spelling with one ‘s’ is much more common?
But now for something completely different:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mrs+premise+and+mrs+conclusion

The problem with Wonderbread, IMHO, is not that the bread is white - Pepperidge Farm white bread is okay. It’s that it is cotton-candy soft and sticks to the roof of your mouth. Especially if it has mayo on it, it’s a very unpleasant sensation.

Or that’s how I recall it, anyway. I doubt I’ve had Wonderbread in the last 50 years.

Oh yuck, yes it does. On the few times I’ve eaten it.
Still, it’s not actually poisonous, I suppose…

When I was a kid, Wonder Bread with lots of mayonnaise was one of my favorite snacks. :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

Roman meal is still made although not available in most (all?) North American markets. It was horribly unhealthy, but I’m not sure that the non-wheat contributions to the mix were that significant.

Have you tried Food for Life Ezekiel 4:9? Multi-grain, sprouted grain and legume breads? Maybe you’d like them, maybe not.

There’s also the “make your own bread” option. I’d recommend making some plain wheat loaves until you get comfortable with the process, then starting to make your own multi-item breads. You can replace up to half the wheat flour in most recipes with other stuff, although the more wheat you replace the denser the loaf will become. You can make some amazing breads in your own kitchen.

I’ve probably known it for most of my life which is a looooong time, but I grew up in California. “Health food” was a big thing here since forever. I remember a guy called Gypsy Boots (today, he’d have to change his names) who dressed in a faux cheetah one-shouldered tunic and lace-up sandals. He’d show up on various TV programs in the 50s and 60s touting healthy living and eating (although his health kick started in the 1930s).

But what this thread pinged in my memory was reading the book Heidi. When Heidi was living with the rich family in town, she was hoarding the soft white rolls to take back to the Alm Aunt, because the aunt couldn’t eat the hard black rolls with her bad teeth.

We didn’t eat Wonderbread at home, but I’ve had it at friends’s homes. I’m with @CairoCarol … it’s icky how it’d stick in your mouth.

The Ottoman sultan ate only bread made with blindingly refined white has flour, but he also ate a lot of other yummy stuff, so he and the people he shared his diet with stayed healthy.

The Japanese imperial family ate rice and not much else, polished down to the white endosperm. They suffered for it, including the Meiji emperor’s aunt Princess Kazu; who died of beriberi

Just amazing how much of this post sounds like something I would write. I also still find white bread superior for toast or grilled cheese or peanut butter and banana Elvis sandwiches.

I would put the blame on my youth, but I never had grilled cheese or peanut butter and banana sandwiches as a kid. They snuck in somewhere. Today I keep a variety of breads in the house, and use Monk’s Bread for white bread.

White bread is not intrinsically bad for you any more than sugar or far is intrinsically bad for you. You simply shouldn’t make it a critical part of a diet. At times and in places, though, cheap white bread combined with cheap sodas and lack of vegetables to create nutrient-poor diets.

Sure, a fresh baguette is a treasure. But there isn’t a bakery on the end of my street to walk to. America isn’t France.

I don’t think I was ever told it had NO nutrients, just that it wasn’t as healthy as wheat bread/whole grain bread.

This was before glycemic indices were something that were widely known, and it mostly revolved around some sort of perceived fiber content and nebulous concepts of “all the nutrition is in the skin” type thinking.

Same here. Can’t remember exactly when I learned about white bread but it was certainly no later than the early 70’s.
Anybody else old enough to remember “batter whipped” Sunbeam (?) bread? Selling point of the commercial was a slice tearing perfectly in half, almost as if it had no texture whatever.

I see that Diet for a Small Planet came out in 1971. That was one of the books that helped start the whole health food kick. Moosewood Cookbook came out in 1974. There are other seminal books of that era that I’m forgetting.

YES. We discovered Dave’s Killer Bread(s) in 2006 and have seldom bought any other brand since. We prefer his “White Bread Done Right” but we’ve liked all the other varieties we’ve tried.

Anybody remember Euell Gibbons?

https://youtu.be/t0N290zPrbA

https://youtu.be/ZVEF5V551zY

There is a lot of fibre and nutrients in wheat bran and also some nutrients in wheat germ. But it is not like even wonder bread is completely lacking in nutrients, particularly if fortified or the versions with added fibre. Still, growing up my mother bought and ate healthier alternatives and we would occasionally do so too.