What nonsense. Everyone knows that industrial bleach is the cure for autism. And if that doesn’t work, hyperbaric oxygen therapy is the “in” thing. The Oxford Center in Michigan used it to treat autism before that silly fuss over the child who burned to death in their HBOT chamber.
I’m almost 100% certain that has happened in the past.
ETA: This pit thread discusses it, however the original thread was sent to the cornfield.
Someone once posted here about serious disordered eating that was helping them lose weight and everyone was cheering them on and I didn’t say anything. It was a kind of disordered eating that is really trendy right now so I knew it would fall on deaf ears. You see, people believe that fat people can’t have disordered eating unless they are eating whatever they think is too much. They don’t see severe caloric restriction as a serious problem unless you are thin, even though it can result in many serious health effects even if you are fat. Caloric restriction also appears to be a major driver of obesity, so honestly, I’d blame diet culture before I’d blame food.
“Reading the room” is a good skill to have. You can be totally right about something and it’s still not the best time to say it.
Anyway I eat like garbage because it’s a lifelong emotional regulation tool resulting from decades of trauma. Someone’s well-intentioned post on a message board isn’t going to touch that. Right now the best I can do is harm reduction.
I’ve done so much reading on nutrition and dietary choices I’ve learned that you can make virtually any case by cherry picking data. So I don’t know where I come down on certain types of foods causing health problems. Nutrition science is riddled with methodological problems.
But it’s not like I haven’t thought about it. I’ve spent more time thinking about this stuff than anyone else I know. Most fat people have invested an incredible amount of time trying to figure out how to not be fat, and I’m getting to the point where I think it’s a bloody waste of time.
A person who smokes that much most likely has no sense of smell left. So there’s that. I once read a profound book about addiction. The author spoke about the fundamental mechanism of any addiction, which is forgetting. The mind, in order to keep you addicted, must make you forget – forget how horrible you will feel tomorrow, forget the people you are hurting, forget what you promised yourself this morning, or even a minute ago. Anyone who is addicted to anything, if they reflect, will verify this. The only real cure for addiction is to stop forgetting. This is enormously difficult, you are fighting your own mind.
I’m addicted to all sorts of less-harmful-than-nicotine substances and behaviors. I’ve thought a good bit about it. And I pity addicts, I really do.
And cigarette smoke makes me really ill.
He’s described as needing a wheelchair. Presuming that he doesn’t live on the ground floor, how is he to smoke outdoors without using the elevator?
If he’s smoking in the elevator, that’s a different matter. But the impression I got was that he stinks up the elevator just by being inside it, because he smells of the smoke even while not smoking.
There’s someone right now asking for advice on a subject I’m well versed in.
Can’t explain it to them.
Oh, well. Their loss.
Of course it’s veing an asshole. If someone asked for advice on a good cigar or recommendations for a cigar bar, you’d be an asshole and a threadshitter to jump in with “smoking is bad for you!” I’m not sure why you think it would be acceptable in this scenario. There is no contradiction or paradox. It’s the same for junk food as it is for tobacco and alcohol.
Yes.
Only if you’re also happy with my “obligation” to report you for threadshitting.
Kinda novel to accuse an OP of shitting his own thread. Just sayin’
OTOH this whole thread has been kinda ill-tempered from the git-go.
I think he’s saying if OP posted in someone else’s thread it would be threadshitting.
OP is fine. It’s just many people don’t read through threads before they post their reaction.
There’s a balance there. Sometimes posts that ask for opinions really benefit from seeing your initial, uninfluenced reaction.
This isn’t one of them in my mind, but I do get it. At most I would give “yeah, I agree with everyone else that it’s inappropriate.” and then go on to make some other point that I thought might add something to the discussion.
(Though, yes, I am often wrong about that. But it was interesting to me, damnit!, and so it could be interesting to someone else.)
That’s not true. This link is a pretty comprehensive breakdown of nutrients in iceberg lettuce. There’s not a lot of them per unit of volume because, as we all know, iceberg lettuce is mostly water. Which is also a nutrient.
On a hot day the moisture is useful and while there are more nutritious food per unit it’s not going to hurt anyone to eat iceberg lettuce. What’s problematic is usually what is put on the lettuce. If you’re just eating it plain it makes a decent low-calorie snack.
Smokers do smell like smoke. The more they smoke, and in some cases what brand/type of nicotine they’re smoking, may intensify that. Their clothes also accumulated smoke, yes, even if they smoke only outside. Some of them do leave a lingering… aroma.
Even a heavy smoker smells vastly worse in the first few minutes after finishing a cig.
Toke up w my blessings, Mr. Hopeless Addict. But for gosh sakes wait 5 minutes before trying to reenter civilized society.
Ditto for MJ users.
2nd hand (smoke) odor! For some reason cig smoke really seems to stick to people.
What I was saying was that it’s a thing some people say about lettuce: in the context of there not being anything to eat that nobody will say you shouldn’t be eating.
Iceberg has less nutrition than a lot of the other lettuces; but yes, it does have some. And not all of it is shipped across the country – if you’re concerned about that issue, pay attention to where the individual thing you’re buying is from, not to where the bulk of it is grown. (Plus which, of course, some people live where the bulk of it is grown.)
Yes, I know that. But to criticize a person in a wheelchair and then say that you’re not criticizing an addict for smoking, you’re just criticizing them for smelling up the elevator – yes, you’re criticizing them for being addicted. In that person’s case the two behaviors likely aren’t separable.
5 minutes may not be anywhere near enough. Some smokers smell like that all the time.
Sometimes they’re not even aware of the odor.
My Sister smoked for many years.
It took a grandkid born premature to stop her.
She says she’d smoke right now if not for his problems.
She never realized how bad she smelled til she took some clothing out of storage and got the whiff of stale old cigarette, in clothing she had had cleaned before storage.
My math teacher at high school was a life-long bachelor. He was an outstanding teacher, but man, he was dirty. He wore the same old threadbare clothes day to day; topped with a jersey in winter that grew new food spills every day. He stunk of tobacco. He used to teach from the doorway because he was not allowed to smoke in the classroom.
But man, he was an astoundingly good teacher. He pushed me through GCSE ‘O’ level, ‘O’ level additional math, ‘A’ level math, ‘A’ level further math. So when I was done, I was at 2nd year university math level.
So stinky Mr.Greenacre did me a lot of good.
IMHO that’s not the sort of circumstance the OP references; it’s potentially more the one referenced here:
In a thread in which the crowd is, in your understanding, cheering on an unhealthy behavior as the healthy thing to do, expressing your concern that maybe they are mistaken? It isn’t an obligation but even if it isn’t a popular position to take in “the room,” it is an important thing to do.
It seems to me like there is a difference between being “a scold” and expressing concern that a behavior represents part of a serious disorder that the poster is not recognizing, or correcting misinformation.