Yeah, dude, I got distracted too.
Hi, I’m back. Gosh, I sure am glad I started this. 
Shirley, I for one would never turn the sound off on that video. --sniff-- for some of us, some of us who are … gourmands, so to speak, aural sex is a part of great sex.
The parts that do anger me are not the parts about girls this age posing with sex toys. It is the clear pattern of repeated abuse, and manipulation of the many coaches in the last three years. These girls, especially the daughter of the Principal, had way too much power and abused it for wayyyyy too long. I detest that dynamic.
Mom should have been fired, and Mom should have been sued. The last coach shoulda gotten her job back and the girls should have been permanently removed from the cheerleading team and suspended- with said suspensions including details of why, as a part of their permanent record.
Truly sad.
The school board is claiming not to be aware of the situation? Where the heck were the rest of the parents in that school? Why did none of the previous coaches report what was going on? This isn’t about a few popular kids acting up once or twice. It’s about a small group of students being allowed to run rampant, doing as they pleased, with no enforceable discipline. What does that do to the atmosphere of the school, and what does it teach the rest of the kids? And what happens to these few when they get into a situation where Mom doesn’t have the clout to protect them?
Number one: Children of fellow faculty (be they teachers or admins) are, IME, either some of the best kids around or some of the worst kids around. I haven’t seen much of a middle ground.
Number two:
Where I teach (MA), coaching gigs are paid positions. First dibs for these positions go to teachers, then admins can take a coaching position (if no teacher goes for it), then, if no-one on the faculty is interested, someone from the general public may apply. (Although, once they have a coaching position, whoever it is can stay until they resign.) Quite a few of our coaches are non-faculty, for a variety of reasons including the pay sucks, the hours suck, and hassle from parents sucks (not to mention that it might be hard to find teachers who actually know much about the sport).
Number three: The school board might have gotten off cheaply with that payout. We had to shell out (IIRC) $150,000 to get rid of a super. Our school board decided that it would be cheaper that the legal fees, if she had put up a fight.
Number four: (A general pet peeve) I have seen (as, I am sure, the other teacher Dopers have) the results of poor administrating. The media and parent organizations always demand higher standards for teachers (which they rightly should), but I seldom hear about higher standards for administrators.
No kidding. Up in Middletown, New York a little speck of dirt named Robert Sigler is in jail for having sex with a student over and over. ![]()
I’d say you got off cheap for $ 150K
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Sure, but I see the cheerleaders also as victims of a school that absolutely failed to provide appropriate discipline at the appropriate time. Again, if the school and it’s faculty never disciplined the girls before this all blew up in the media, I would expect that a large number of people would naturally alter their behavior to whatever they can get away with.
The girl that told a teacher to, “shut up” deserved (and I use that in a positive sense, hopefully it would have eventually made her more adapt at functioning in school and society) a one-day suspension immediately, not a two-week suspension three years later.
Yes, the poor victimized girls. I eagerly await the filing of their lawsuit against the school.
There are names for people who need to be disciplined to prevent them from doing “whatever they can get away with.” “Shameless assholes” are a couple that immediately comes to mind.
They’re still juveniles and I think it’s almost universally true that adolescents tend to do what they can get away with. If the administration was a bunch of pussies three years ago, in what way is it appropriate to retroactively decide to apply the appropriate punishments to these girls?
Here’s something you may appreciate more as a lawyer, what about these girls right to a speedy due process? The statue of limitations for punishing someone for telling a teacher to shut up lies at a month, not a decade.
Actually, I think those of us who participated in high school athletics are the ones wihtout sympathy. Long before you get to varsity, you’re taught about representing your school. That’s in or out of uniform. Lots of kids screw around anyway, but if you get caught, you get punished, and not just a little. If they’re too dumb not to publish what they’ve done, they probably belong in a different school, anyway.