When the hypocrites come marching in- starring rosie O'donnell!

I’ve tried to stay away from this thread, but I have to get in on this. First, I need to jump on the “Anthracite kicks ass” bandwagon. If you liked men, I’d try to marry you. :slight_smile:

Second, the above quoted stuff is all true. Read the Federalist papers, and you’ll see that the right of citizens to arm themselves is NOT there primarily for people to protect themselves from crime (though that is an important peripheral benefit), but to defend liberty from usurpers and tyrants. But you convince the public that the 2nd Amendment is about personal defense, and you have a whole world of new arguments to use (the police will protect you, just dial 9-1-1; get an alarm; run away; get a pointed stick; give the thief whatever he wants; ad infinitum). Unfortunately, the only sensible reason to disarm a less-than-ideal society is to subdue it for less than honorable reasons. If the society were so ideal and enlightened that arms were not needed, it would happily disarm itself without need of legislation. And if the society is not perfect, then we will find a way to kill each other in large numbers with or without guns. As we have for millennia. Or did murders begin with the advent of gunpowder?

Something important to remember is that there was never such a problem with gun violence as we have now, until our friends in the media (including Rosie) started to a) glorify it, b) try to convince people that “old-fashioned” ideas like disciplining your kids are bad, c) take advantage of their situations and technology of the media establishment to push their personal views on the public, and d) disproportionately report every incident of violence (provided it involves a gun or a celebrity).

My complaint with her decision to hire an armed guard is not that she is hiring an armed guard with a concealed-carry permit. My problem is that she continues to preach her gun-ban, jail for gun owners, guns==bad mentality while at the same time making use of guns and gun owners because she really needs them. But the rest of us do not.

The worst part is that she’s dishonest about it. She admits that a firearm is the most effective mode of defense, but she won’t handle it herself. She pays somebody else to do the dirty work for her, so that she can keep preaching anti-gun rhetoric with (she thinks) a clear conscience. If John Gotti (or Tony Soprano. haha) tells one of his guys to go kill somebody, but doesn’t actually pull the trigger, is he guilt-free? Of course not. If the President orders a nuclear strike against a non-threatening city, is he guilt-free, even though he didn’t turn the key himself? OF COURSE NOT. Neither is Rosie.

Practicing an action you publicly and vocally condemn: Hypocrisy. Any questions?

Sorry for rambling. This was supposed to be a quick, short post.

Joe, no apology necessary… there seems to be this notion that if a person is right and agreeable in some ways, said person can’t be hypocritical/wrong/disagreeable in other ways.

I think you summed up the original post AND hijacks rather well.