Where I Pit myself for smacking my beautiful little girl.

Boo Boo Foo,
You lost your temper for a moment and acted inappropriately by your own standards. You should not beat youself up (heh) over it. The fact that you feel bad about it speaks well of you.

FWIW, placing some form of protection over your leather upholstery is an excellent idea while your daughter is young, because accidents do happen. However, I don’t think you have to worry about your child intentionally making a mess in the back seat again. That lesson has been learned, and at an early enough age that it may stick. Could it have been learned without the smack? Probably. Just an angry tone of voice will often do the trick. But not always, and not with every child.

Children may be born innocent, but they are not born with a sense of propriety, or good judgement or manners. They learn these things through interactions with their environment and by the teachings of their parents. They also learn very quickly to avoid things that cause pain. They won’t touch a hot stove twice, or run through a sticker patch barefooted, or stick a paperclip in an electrical outlet more than once. Likewise, when they need to learn to avoid behavior that may not instantly result in pain, but is nonetheless vitally important, a spanking puts a concrete face on an abstract concept. In other words, when they do something dangerous and get away with it, they don’t learn that it’s dangerous. But when that action results in a couple of solid swats on the butt, they think twice about running with the scissors or teasing the neighbor’s rottweilers.

Corporal punishment, when applied appropriately, is a very effective means of instilling good behavior in children. Unfortunately, when applied viciously or capriciously it can also be an effective means of creating a violent sociopath. For this reason, the consensus seems to have shifted from “Spare the rod, spoil the child” to “Spanking is child abuse”.

Most of the people I know were spanked as a child, myself emphatically included. Only a relatively small number of them grew up to be violent wife/husband-beating, dog-kicking, cat-drowning, child-abusing adults. Obviously there is another dynamic at play here. For my part, I think that spankings should be applied sparingly and judiciously and always explained afterwards. Also, once done, the transgression which led up to the spanking should be considered forgiven in full. It should never be held over their heads again unless the deed is repeated.

It’s not easy holding the middle ground, so I am sure that the spanking/no spanking pendulum will likely continue to swing back and forth for many generations to come.

Actually, I think you were on to something, but maybe not strictly spanking/non-spanking. More like, parent who cares/doesn’t care. It’s not too hard (not claiming 100% accuracy here) to know when a student is being raised by thoughtful, involved parents and when they’re not.

So maybe Boo Boo was wrong, but it would have been worse to have not given a damn. Besides, kids need to have their parents screw up every once in a while. That’s how you show them the correct way to give and accept an apology. Right?

If it’s any consolation to you whatsoever, 2 1/2 year olds regularly engage in “dumping” things out of containers. It’s part of their developmental “tasks”. What stands out in your description is (1) 2 1/2 year old (2) Food and Drink (3) Lexus! Winning recipe for backseat disaster that is! See if you can come up with some sort of drop cloth for the backseat to save your sanity and your Lexus!

I agree with what so many other posters have told you here. The very fact that you were upset enough to post about the incident tells me that you’re not an abuser. You’re simply a parent that “lost it” and I doubt there’s a parent anywhere who hasn’t experienced that! I’d be worried if you didn’t feel remorseful about it.

regards,
widdley

Developmental tasks: Occupation they engage in that constructs learning. Sheesh…no edit.

regards,
widdley

Boo Boo Foo, actually Maddy may be pretty lucky that you have recognized while she is so young that your first instincts about not hitting were right for you.

I read here where some defend hitting and I have to remind myself that maybe they were in a situation where they knew that they were loved anyway. Or maybe as children they had strong self-esteem and could handle it.

If the parent is mentally ill or has a personality disorder (which isn’t always obvious to the parent) or if the child has low self-esteem, inflicting physical pain as punishment can do a lot of emotional damage.

There are a few things I can see Boo Boo Foo taking from this thread, but this one stands out.

As a parent (she’s now 14) this is something I learned early on.

I wouldn’t beat yourself up over smacking little Boo Boo Foo Jr. It happens. I think a little smack time and again is good for them at this age.

I had a thing called “waiting for the spanking”. After I gave my daughter a couple of spankings, and she learned what spanking were all about, I’d send her to her room and wait until I come in and give her the spanking. These five or so minutes were the worst for her. When I’d come in I’d hardly have to touch her and she’d wail like I was pulling an arm off. Sometimes I wouldn’t even hit her as hard as I would swat a fly off my arm, but man did it sound bad. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

The other reason I’d wait is because I didn’t want to ever hit her in anger. If she did something really bad having her sit away for a few minutes let’s me calm down. Plus, with my daughter over reacting in the other room, sometimes I couldn’t help but kind of chuckle at her dramatics.

(between sobs)
“I’m… going… to… get… a… spanking…and … I … won’t… be able… to… sleep… all… night… because… I’m… getting… a… spanking… and… I’ll… NEVER… EVER… do… it… again…”

Of course after the spanking she’d get 10 minutes to chill out, then we’d talk, then 20 minutes after the spanking she’d be giggling again (and fully able to sleep through the night). heh heh.

It rarely came to spankings. After she got a couple of spankings I’d say “we can do this the easy way or the hard way”. She knew the easy way involved less tears and crying. 99% of the time she’d take that route given a choice.

I don’t think she got a spanking after the age of five and she doesn’t remember them now.

Next time Boo Boo Foo Jr get’s in the back seat of the car with Drop Dead Fred, have HER tell you where the food goes and where it doesn’t go. Don’t tell her. If you let her figure it out it and tell you, she can have a sense of pride in knowing what’s right. You can also add “clean up” to the food routine. Remind her the less she spills, the less she had to clean up. That worked wonders in my house.

Boo Boo Foo - Just so you know where I’m coming from…I despise spanking on various principles, and I don’t give a damn about it only being about pain…I find treating a child like a circus animal every bit as disturbing as causing actual harm. I also reject the notion that anything that doesn’t cause massive irrerparable damage is perfectly all right. Believe you me that little things can add up.

Nonetheless, you’re only human, and from your OP you possess intelligence and compassion, which puts you several light years ahead of some parents I’ve seen. And of course, you had the guts to come clean about it here.

So no criticism from me. As for advice, well, just keep using your best judgment and setting healthy limits. S’long as you do that, she’ll turn out fine.

And I would like to make clear that I really respect and admire Boo Boo for coming clean publicly, and fully acknowledging his feelings. We’re all human, and none of us is always perfect (that goes double for me).

Not an equivalent question. I was asking if Good Egg spanked his/her kids to determine if he/she actually had any practical experience in the matter of disciplining children or was just randomly spouting off.