[[in plain, simple, grammatical English: why the “minorities” thread was censored; why one moderator was fired and another seemingly uncensured. These are indeed guestions that belong in this forum, not in the Pit.]]Melin’s husband
It seems to me that the opposite is true, that the moderator who was fired, Melin, is now a simple board member who can say almost anything she wants while the other one, Jillgat, has agreed to follow the moderator rules. If the “minorities” thread gets put back up, it should be unedited by Ed Zotti OR Melin (Melin said she has “selected” posts from it). But it sounds like she wasn’t fired for her views on that thread anyway, but because she complained about following board policies for moderators.
Change it to “refused to follow board policies for moderators” and you have the situation exactly.
No evil censorship, no victimization of a civil rights heroine, no firing for being politically incorrect. No exciting story of overcoming oppression. (A sad story, though.)
However by this late in the day everybody is happy with the story as they perceive it and don’t want to be confused with the facts, so we’ll just keep this between ourselves, okay?
your humble TubaDiva/SDStaffDiv
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[[No evil censorship, no victimization of a civil rights heroine, no firing for being politically incorrect. No exciting story of overcoming oppression. (A sad story, though.)]]
Stop it! (Fingers in ears, humming the Donna Reed theme song to drown you out).
If this is about policy, then this thread does seem most appropriate–and it’s shorter, too. Ed said that Melin was fired for ‘getting into a public dispute with another board moderator’, but it doesn’t seem to follow since the two participants were taken out to the wood shed together and (correct me if I’m wrong) up until that dressing down neither was a candidate for the ax. If Melin ‘got it’, then she wouldn’t have been fired, right? It appears that Ed ordered the two to assume the position. Jill did; Melin did not. What is unclear to me is whether Melin refused to back down on her position and agreed to cease and desist publicly at the same time. If so, then what we have here is a ‘bad attitude’. Melin? Do you have a bad attitude? Dear, I have one, too. It is what you get when you don’t think like the group.
You’re proving yourself to be bitter, petty, and defensive. You’re also setting yourself against the SDMB regs, which I don’t think is very smart of you at this point.
In your sweeping generalization that “everybody” is being closed minded about the issue, you are suggesting that you (and possibly one other poster) are the only ones being objective about the issue. That’s insulting, and it’s clearly untrue.
Claiming that we “don’t want to be confused with the facts” is particularly unfounded in light of the fact that we have fought tooth and nail to see the original offending post. Besides that, it shows a lack of respect for the SDMB users, something I find unconsciencable for a moderator.
You owe us an apology, TubaDiva. If you continue to maintain that we, the SDMB users, don’t know what we’re talking about, then we don’t want you to be our moderator.
I’m hmming as well, DB. IIRC, Jenny did post a response, which I notice has now been deleted. Since it was deleted for a reason (I assume), I won’t give the response in full. (Or what I can remember.) Suffice to say it wasn’t an apology.
Yes! I find it to be an abuse of a moderator’s position to go back and delete comments that they may regret that they made. That’s a luxury that the rest of us do not have, and makes it impossible to debate with a moderator on a fair level.
Somehow I’m not surprised. Jenny had some serious abuse of power problems on the AOL board as well, which was one of the main reasons why I left it. If someone saved that post, I suggest you repost it, or at least e-mail it to people who ask to see it.
I don’t have it saved. However, I do remember the gist of it, and will email that to whoever asks. Fair warning - I’m away for 2 days this weekend, so response time may not be the greatest.
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There is plenty of blame (and also some corresponding justification, albeit less) to go around for all three regarding this unfortunate incident.
I am especially sorry to see the SD “community” divided into personally hostile factions over this affair, although to a certain extent I guess that was inevitable.
I suggest that everyone should do their best to desist from launching ad hominem (or ad feminem) attacks in discussing this issue.
I also hope the principals can settle their differences and be friends (or at least friendly) once again.
Lord – you don’t think that “Deceased Equine” post was mainly just a joke, as well as being a well-intentioned and correct plea to give the subject a rest, huh? I saw nothing the least bit “cowardly” about it.
Meanwhile, what a surprise it is to see that C3 would like to see the personal vitriol continue.