Saw this video and it made me wonder which side of civil war would they have join. Personally I think they would have been on Caps side. Thor would not have agreed to subject himself to any human authority. Bruce Banner is a harder one, one one hand he certainly understands the need for controls on hulk but I think he would realize that the government would likely use him as a scapegoat if anything went wrong. He’s had enough experience to know the kind of treatment he’s likely to receive.
In my mind, the real heart of the story is the conflict between Cap and Tony about how they should deal with Bucky. I could see Thor focusing on this issue and joining Team Cap. I think his understanding of the bond of brotherhood between Cap and Bucky would be much more important than worrying about UN resolutions, which Thor would just ignore anyway. I also think Thor was already pretty peeved at Tony over the whole Ultron thing.
Hulk is harder. Banner would probably side with Tony, because he shares in the guilt over creating Ultron. Banner understands better than anyone how dangerous the superheroes can be. Whether Hulk would agree with Banner is an open question. I suspect Hulk would not be inclined to side with authority figures, given the amount of time General Ross has spent shooting at him. My guess is that Hulk would fight with Team Cap, regardless of what puny Banner thinks.
Banner would side with Tony in theory but the Hulk cannot be controlled that way. Thor would be totally on Cap’s side.
Would he, though?
Thor – who owes his allegiance to the warrior-king of Asgard, and hopes to someday be wise enough to serve in that role – may well see Tony and Steve as disagreeing over whether to be loyal soldiers ruled by their lawgiver, and may well see his own situation as being like unto the stuff of reciprocal treaties. Heck, wasn’t that whole thing in the first Avengers movie about how Asgardians brought their brawls to Earth, and now Earth is preparing as best as we can for war with whoever invades next?
What Would Odin Do?
Well, Odin reminded Thor by taking away his powers that being the Prince of Asgard involves a bit more than hard-drinking and starting fights with other cultures, so he might be inclined to respect a UN resolution signed by however many Earth countries it was. OTOH, if a monster shows up Thor can fight, I can’t see him waiting around for UN committees to resolve to have meetings to discuss possible uses of force. Thor sides with his buddy Cap.
Hulk doesn’t give a rat’s ass what Banner thinks and Stark came after him with his Hulk buster armor. Cap told him “Hulk smash” and he’s got a thing for Cap’s friend Natasha, so Hulk goes with Cap too.
Doubtful. We’re talking about the same Thor that broke Loki out of jail against Odin’s orders. Then he went on to tell Odin he “would rather be a good man than a great king” and turned his back on the throne of Asgard. (He was talking to Loki, but didn’t know that at the time.)
In both the movies and comics, he routinely does the exact opposite of what Odin commands. I don’t think Thor has much respect for arbitrary rules, and he is likely to do what he thinks is right.
But it’s not just about what Steve would do, siding with Tony would mean putting HIMSELF under the control of the earth’s governments and that simply would not happen.
It’s an interesting point; as I understand it, if Thor shows back up this very afternoon and starts doing his thing on the streets of this-or-that city in the MCU, then Tony and the Vision and the rest of the retinue will presumably show up to (a) explain the new law, and then (b) reluctantly resort to the use of force if he defies them. Right?
If so, then – isn’t he already under their control? Or authority? Maybe jurisdiction? I’m not sure how to put it; but the idea is, he’ll be told what the governments of the world have decided, and he’ll be told who’s working as law enforcement, and he’ll be asked whether he wants to join up, or leave, or stay but refrain from superheroing, or get battled.
Isn’t that simply the current state of affairs, regardless of whether he agrees to it?
Thor is not a citizen of any country on Earth, and Asgard is in no way party to the UN. He’s probably treated as having diplomatic immunity.
Sure, Odin isn’t raising a bureaucratic weenie, but he wants him to develop more wisdom and perspective than just beating up Ice Giants because he can. As the Asgardian representative to Earth, he has to at least consider respecting local laws, whether he agrees with them or not.
Banner: “You think you can control the big guy? How can I sign the accords and register when I can’t control him either?”
If he was doing Asgard business i think he would just keep doing whatever he felt he had to do, like Cap would.
Given the contortions that they had to go to, to put Stark on the pro-Gubmint side, I think it’s reasonable to conclude that they would have put Hulk and Thor on whichever side they thought they could get the biggest “ooh” out of the audience.
Since a Hulk v. Thor matchup would be pretty good, they’d probably go on opposite sides. And since they already had worked in the “Cap can move Mjolnir” thing in a former movie, they’d probably put Thor on Stark’s side just to mess with our expectations that he’d be all cool with Cap.
A relevant spoiler for the Civil War II comic book series, which is currently running:
Banner creates a “Hulk-killer” arrowhead, and secretly gives it to Clint Barton (Hawkeye), with instructions to use it if Barton feels that the Hulk is becoming an unmanageable threat. Barton winds up using the arrowhead, and kills Banner with it.
They also conveniently left Thor out of it so they wouldn’t have to deal with it. I suppose at some point the Thanos issue will come up and the superpower UN issue won’t seem as important.
Sleep on it, probably.
I can see Thor siding with Tony at least to the extent that Tony deserves revenge for the murder of his mom, Thor having recently lost his own.
The sides chosen seemed somewhat arbitrary. I can’t see why the MCU Hawkeye would have sided with Captain America, for example.
That said, I feel Banner would sided with Iron Man. Banner is closest to Stark and Romanoff on a personal level. And Banner feels a sense of guilt over his Hulk activities and his role in the creation of Ultron. He’d see the danger in unregulated super-powers.
Thor? I don’t see anything pulling him towards either side. He’d probably end up on Captain America’s side for movie reasons - put Hulk and Thor on the same side and that side’s going to have an overwhelming advantage. So the writers would put them on opposite sides to maintain a balance.
He was less siding with Steve than he was with Wanda, since her brother saved his life.
“Okay, tiny dude is big now. HE’S BIG NOW!”
“Yeah, we still have Thor and the Hulk.”
Ultimately, Thor and Hulk go off on their own for well-muscled mansex.
HULK SLASH!