White Nationalism: Continued debate from BBQ

Actually, I would venture to say that most of these “Zionists” are just people who have many different interests and political leanings and happen to agree on one issue. How does that differ from other groups that lobby the government? I saw your reference to Findley, and I saw that he was voted out of office. Have you thought about the fact that maybe the majority of Americans do support Israel’s right to exist. Have you thought about the fact that maybe your opinions are in the minority and that maybe you are in error.

Isn’t the white nationalists obsession with race and white culture almost un-American? The Indians were here long before the English came. There have been people of African descent since the Jamestown colony. There have been Asians here since the 1850s. The Mexicans have been in the southwest since the time of the Conquistadores.

These people are just as American as you are if not even more so. Your ancestors came to this country on a boat just as surely as most of theirs did. Those who are citizens are allowed to vote, can be drafted, and may be required to serve on a jury just as you are.

Considering you seem to hate the politics of 95% of all Americans (at least), I guess that means you really love the Jews by comparison.

Jew lover! :stuck_out_tongue:

Since when did this thread become “Ask the White Supremacist”?

Sionnach you promised us a debate and have as of yet shown not one single verifiable piece of evidence showing us that your side of the argument is not just plain bullshit.

I want cites on:
Jews controlling the media
Lack of IQ and higher aggression in Blacks.
Numbers of illegals using US Gov’t assistance
Crime statistics (recent) separated by race and Economic status,
etc, etc, etc,…

Just because you say something often enough, doesn’t make it true.

And what is your response to this (from my above post):

Do you have ANY evidence that ANYTHING you say here is true? ANYTHING (other than a ‘gut’ feeling) that you aren’t completely full of shit? If you do, SHOW US!

I’ll reiterate, just in cast you missed it the first time: Just because you say something often enough, doesn’t make it true.

Hmmm, good point. I’d say the Zionists have much in common with White Nationalists.

december vs Sionnach!

London Prize Ring rules.

No Butting, Gouging, Hitting below the waist, or Kicking!

First one who cannot come to scratch buys the other a beer.
C’mon, did you think I wanted them to kill each other?

Oh I’d pay to see that.

Hell, I’ll bring some pie.

Canada (this one is freakin’ easy and has been posted before) -

Israel Asper

Jewish article gloating about Jewish ownership of media

Excerpt: “Now, after all the deals and buyouts, four of the five mega-media companies are run by Jews. We’re back where we started, bigger than ever.”

Race, genetics, and human reproductive strategies

The Color of Crime

Numbers of illegals using US Gov’t assistance

The Costs of Immigration

[[url=http://www.jabpage.com/facts/racestat/racestat11.html]Repeat of past link](Crime statistics (recent) separated by race and Economic status[/url)

Bah…

Fixed Link to damn statistics

Good night.

Sionnach, it’s interesting that you picked that line to excerpt. 'Cus the one after it says:

Back to give a reply to Libertarian… who asked for any WN who have a kind word to say about gay people. I’ve seen SF posters say pretty kind things about Pym Fortyn from Holland.

David, do you think I give a crap if some Jewish rag says it doesn’t matter that they own the media, and only an “anti-semitic conspiracy nut” would care? The Jews would be up in arms if a third the amount of Arabs ran the American media like the Jews do. The Jews have gotten up in arms if someone even writes a pro-Arab article. They are the most hypocritical people on earth.

The point is that yes, they own most of the media, and when they aren’t busy calling everyone an anti-semite Hitler for pointing out the facts, they are gloating about it.

So, Sionnach…

All those Palestinians the Israelis are oppressing so much, they’re all welcome over here right? I mean, as long as they can work, pay taxes, and obey local laws, you’d welcome them where they can live unafraid of Jewish oppression and freely petition the US government to change its middle-east policy, right?

And Alessan, if I may, I realize that teh continuing exitance of people like Sionnach is part of the reason while your nation exists, but man, you’re starting to scare me. Don’t let her get to you.

Nope. If you’re looking for that, I can send you a mirror. In fact, I’ve already pointed it out quite recently in this thread, but you chose to ignore that message – which is not exactly a big surprise.

I think we’re going to need a cite on this. You people are always going on about how the Jews run all the media, oops, sorry, Jewsmedia :rolleyes: Do you have any hard figures on Jewish media ownership?

How do you explain that Stephen Case, a born-again Christian, is CEO of AOL Time Warner, the biggest media conglomerate in the world? Not to mention that it’s a publicly traded company, so that if there were hidden Hebraic manipulation of the news, the stockholders would have a fit. Here’s the board of directors:

Stephen M. Case Chairman of the Board, AOL Time Warner Inc.

Richard D. Parsons Chief Executive Officer, AOL Time Warner In

Kenneth J. Novack Vice Chairman, AOL Time Warner Inc.

R.E. “Ted” Turner Vice Chairman, AOL Time Warner Inc.

Daniel F. Akerson Chairman and CEO, XO Communications, Inc.

James L. Barksdale President and CEO, Barksdale Management Corp.

Stephen F. Bollenbach President and CEO, Hilton Hotels Corporation

Frank J. Caufield General Partner, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers

Miles R. Gilburne Managing Member, ZG Ventures, L.L.C.

Ambassador Carla A. Hills Chairman And CEO, Hills & Company, and former United States Trade Representative

Reuben Mark Chairman and CEO, Colgate-Palmolive Company

Michael A. Miles Former Chairman and CEO, Philip Morris Companies Inc.

Franklin D. Raines Chairman and CEO, Fannie Mae

Francis T. Vincent

Here’s the board of directors of The Washington Post:

Donald E. Graham
Chairman of the Board
Chief Executive Officer
Chairman, The Washington Post
Warren E. Buffett
Chairman of the Board, Berkshire Hathaway Inc.
Daniel B. Burke
Former President and Chief Executive Officer
Capital Cities/ABC, Inc.
Barry Diller
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, USA Networks, Inc.
John L. Dotson Jr.
Former President and Publisher, Akron Beacon-Journal
George J. Gillespie III
Attorney, Member of Cravath, Swaine & Moore
Ralph E. Gomory
President, Alfred P. Sloan Foundation
Alice M. Rivlin
Professor, New School University and Senior Fellow, Brookings Institution
Richard D. Simmons
Former President and Chief Operating Officer
The Washington Post Company
George W. Wilson
President, Concord (N.H.) Monitor

Again, the CEO is a Gentile, and the Post is a publicly held company.

Yeah, what would this say about my cousin’s very white, Swedish, redheaded, freckled wife, who converted to Judaism to marry him? Do you hate her, too, or just think she’s stupid for marrying a Jewish journalist?

I’ll try to check for your answer tomorrow, if I can sneak away a few minutes from my day job bringing in immigrants to steal American jobs.

What is significant is not so much if the people are Jewish but if they are exerting some sort of “Jewish control” over the media. IOW, whether they are using their control to promote a Jewish agenda - this is central to your claims. This article, which according to you is “gloating about” Jews owning most of the media, notes that the only media mogul who risks company money to promote his beliefs is the only non-Jew in the group (Murdoch) and that the Jews in the group are interested in making deals. The article is also a bit out of date - Gerald Levin is no longer in control of Time Warner, and I don’t think Steve Case is Jewish. Is there a difference in media coverage now that the Jew is out? Is there a difference between Fox and the other media outlets with regards to coverage of Israel? Getting the true non-Jewish dominated coverage from Fox? What do you say?

yeeesh! Sionnach, you are not even paying attention. Your silly “Race, genetics, and human reproductive strategies” link simply points to more of Rushton’s nonsense. As has been pointed out in multiple posts, because Rushton’s own data contradicts his findings, and because Rushton has demonstrated that his logic is “mutable” (to put it undeservedly kindly), and because Rushton has falsified data, we don’t accept his lying, illogical, hate-driven message. Find a different “scientist” or prepare to get laughed off the board.

What I find really funny, and sad, is that Sionnach relies on what Richard Feynman called “Cargo Cult Science” to prove her points.

It’s all a bunch of crap that hack scientists claim to be true though the standards they use are, at best, questionable and at worse criminal.

It’s funny that anyone can believe this crap, it is sad that someone has such low self-esteem that they will accept this as a basis for their ‘Racial Purity’. I guess that hating someone based on skin color is better than hating yourself for some people.

Slee

What you have here is the same thing we have with creationists. Sionnach and her ilk have already decided on the conclusion. Now they just need somebody, somewhere, to supply them with something they can point to in order to try to justify it. It matters not if anybody else accepts it or if it’s total crap – it goes along with their preconceived viewpoint, so that means it must be right.

Hmmm, I think Noah Wyle is Jewish. But damn, he sure is cute!

And you’d be up in arms regardless.

Why do you think anyone here cares who runs the media? Most of us are capable of seeking out other sources of news than what we see on television.