White Nationalism: Continued debate from BBQ

Jews use sarcasm. Some years back, my (unmarried) sister and I visited our 90 year-old grandmother in a nursing home. She had incurable cancer and was recuperating from surgery. Despite her medical condition, grandmother “congratulated” my sister for having gotten her ex-boyfriend married off.:stuck_out_tongue:

Don’t forget Alexandre Dumas.

Nor can one deny that there are many trailer parks where non-whites couldn’t walk around without being in danger. Hell, I’m Latino of mostly European descent and I wouldn’t want to be walking around most of those areas without a gun either.

You are confusing race with economic class. How many people would feel safe walking in an impoverished area?

Well, it was immigrants that allowed the U.S. to develop the atomic bomb before Germany or Japan could. (A lot them were Jewish immigrants, too.)

Immigrants contribute more inventions to society, per capita than native born.

And, while the issues surrounding H-1B visas are worth debating as a separate case, immigrants, overall, contribute more than they remove from the public treasury.

No problem. A traditional part of Western Civilization seems to have been a refusal to bathe more than once per annum. This practice is still followed by more than a few proud white Europeans.

What could be whiter than polyester?

:confused:

Not to mention gunpowder, algebra, paper money, mechanical clocks, printing, chess, glass, cement, enamel, porcelain, the nail, the saw, the wedge, the chisel…

Embalming, pasta, silk.

… traffic lights, agriculture, arabic numerals, corn…

Sionnach, in what specific ways do you feel that white culture is being compromised?

Sionnach:

When you understand how to program a person so that they think like yourself; you will be cease to be interested in race.
Has it ever occurred to you that your own race pushes conditions to control your thinking to maintain the very ‘divide and conquer’ that you accuse Jewish people of?

You’re attacking an ethnicity on the grounds of a thought virus; two completely unrelated topics - to make matters worse; you have contracted the very thought virus you’re trying to liberate everyone from. I’m sure there are many Africans and Jews who don’t possess the thought virus that YOU have contracted with all of the others that you complain so vehmently about. As the world turns, you will never amount to more than your critisism; while many of the individuals you judge are leading the productive lives of your ideal.

You’re attacking a systematic policy of caste conservatism, by blaming people being imported and created to conserve these caste systems. You and the band of Mexicains crossing the border are used for slave labor. Do you really think the ‘upper’ class is going to allow you to walk up and disable a metabolic system that creates people who can be propagandically judged as slaves? Culturally displaced into submission?

I suppose the other ‘isms’ are for those who can’t hack thought-ism. You may want to give the intellect some stimulation before you die, as it is a considerably large aspect of human existence.

The difference between a racism and thoughtism are quite literally the divide between infancy and adulthood. You may want to ponder adulthood before your expiration. If you work hard enough, you may even be able to develop an egotism on par with adolescence. If people weren’t so permissive in the first place; you wouldn’t even exist as you know yourself - how long do you seriously believe that you can hold such a childish thought of racism around a group of people who observe ideas on the merit of logic? You already exist as the person who has lost the battle, your entire sense of meaning is attached to it. You may want to consider attacking the permissive elements in society that have it in their interest to ensure that you are indentured to life itself; addicted - by holding consepts that render you intellectually impotent in any serious environment of rigour.

-Justhink

Sionnach wrote:

But you avoided the question. Why should we consider you an individual tree among White Nationalists? You request a courtesy that you are unwilling to extend.

Would you read Human Action to have clue what I am talking about? I don’t know why you can’t just tell me what you’re talking about.

:smiley: Not hardly.

I advocate that so-called public schools be eliminated, and that all schools be privately owned. Let the owners decide, based on the demands of parents (their market) what they will teach.

But once again, you avoided the point. Unless you are perfectly average, you are as deviant as anyone. Why doesn’t that make your brain defective?

It seems to me that in general, White Nationalism demands for its adherents certain special rights and privileges that it is unwilling to return in kind.

In these two instances alone, you want to be treated as an individual, but can’t be bothered to treat others the same. And you consider deviation from the norm to indicate brain damage, except not in your own case.


David wrote:

Don’t drag me into your bully pit. Your attempt to displace your own problems onto me won’t work. I have a thick skin now. :wink:

I’ve seen that their response on that other board as to the inventions is that while a black man was credited with the invention/discovery, there was a team of white scientists doing the bulk of the work. I haven’t the foggiest clue how true that is, or in what cases they say such is the case, and it doesn’t gel with what I know of laboratory work (which requires a guiding intellect at the fore, one key innovator), just thought I’d throw it out there as an example of their possible response.

Also, I think the WN’s over there are ok with free trade and exchange of ideas. So I see no reason they wouldn’t support trading for those commodities not native to their culture/geography and acquiring the agricultural methods for cultivating them. The segregation they seem to want appears to be cultural only as extends to the arts, literature, music, etc. So that leaves some things on your list of things they would abandon, but they’d narrow it down considerably.

Sorry for the brief hijack, but I just had to take note of something. When I came to this board, as a libertarian, and saw a poster with the handle Libertarian, I expected to have an ally. Instead, I kept getting into arguments about metaphysics and modal logic with him. To hear him echo an idea that I myself championed in conversation with friends tonight…well, it’s nice to be reminded that Libertarian is a libertarian. I wish we were discussing liberty issues more often around here. Do you read Reason or Liberty? I get several good ideas for debate from articles in those publications each month. We should try it sometime.

Ok, resume argument in 5…4…3…2…1…

Minty, turkeys are an American bird, hence of non-European origin, and therefore verboten to WNs, who will hve to stick with beef and pork.

RexDart

I used to have subscriptions to both Reason and Liberty.

For the past year or so, I’ve pretty much avoided opening threads on libertarianism and the Noncoercion Principle mainly for two reasons: (1) there was almost always at least a five to one gang bang against me consisting of both leftist-socialists defending economic tyranny and rightist-conservatives defending social tyranny; and (2) opponents insisted on presenting hypotheticals but denied me the privilege to modify them.

I mean, if we’re just supposing a situation, why can’t I suppose it differently? So if they posited an insanely wealthy mean-mean man who bought up all the property around poor Mr. Jones for no reason other than to torture him, I wanted to posit people with actual brains who thought it might be smart to demand a million dollars an acre since Mean-Mean Man was hell bent on terrorizing Mr. Jones.

I’ve had hypothetical arguments presented to me on everything from a man who owned all the water on earth (I was not allowed to mention evaporation and rain) to giant sentient squids arising from the ocean floor and reclaiming the land that they owned millions of years ago. Since then, I’ve refered to all such hypotheticals as “Giant Squid Scenarios”.

But if you’re willing, feel free to open a topic, and I’ll join in as much as I can. Watch out, though. There are a couple of people who will be deliberately rude, and calculate their posts to provoke you.

Libby said:

You dragged yourself right down into the mud when you started whining that she had answered a question when she had not.

You do? Could have fooled me. Somebody with thick skin wouldn’t have thrown a temper tantrum because somebody else was asking questions in his debate in a manner he didn’t like. Reminds me of a three-year-old who wasn’t getting his way.

So, when can I expect your apology for you whining at me that she answered something when she hasn’t?

Oh, for cryin’ out loud, David.

She didn’t even mention “jewspeak”. She quoted me asking what it was. She is handling a 10 to 1 gang bang, and doing a damn civil job of it (even though some of her language is weird — she is likely to call me an Injun any minute now).

She answered you with: “For a moderator, you are not very observant. I said I had some business to take care of. What exactly do you want to know about “jewspeak”? Someone asked me a question about it in the previous thread and I answered. And?”

Her answer was that someone asked a question and she answered.

You don’t like it, maybe. But that’s tough. Your baboonish cries of “bigot!” and the like for her smilie are the most wasted words ever written. Of course she’s a bigot. She’s a White Nationalist, for cryin’ out loud. She hates you and me both.

If I had a temper tantrum, you had a nuclear explosion.

When it happens. (And when you apologize for calling me “Libby”, a deliberate swipe that’s inappropriate for Great Debates.)

{{{{DavidB}}}}

{{{{Libertarian}}}}

There now, you boys play nice, okay? :slight_smile:

Sorry, I was assuming North America was white by default.

Minty wrote:

I love David, and he knows it. I even visit Reality News Online almost every day. (Although those damn floating popups are annoying as hell. ;))

He has a point, David. :stuck_out_tongue:

This is not correct.

Not necessarily. I saw a mod accuse someone else of jewspeak because he posted something that the mod claimed was false. My best guess is that jewspeak means speech that is not forthright and straightforward, sarcasm being but one example. These being characteristics of the sneaky and underhanded Jews. But perhaps Sionnach will shed some further light on this matter.

Ah, I see. Thanks, Izzy.

Hmmm, didn’t an African American perform the first open heart surgery?

Let’s see, what else? Oh-if you go horseback riding, don’t use stirrups. They were invented by the Ay-raabs!

Oh, and let’s hope you’re not a smoker-tobacco was cultivated by the Native Americans.