Cleveland, for one. (And it is not “can’t learn”; it is “haven’t yet learned”–the same as for other immigrant groups.)
And you are demonstrating ignorance when you rail against bi-lingual education: the California School Board dismantled the program after a 1998 referendum to do away with it that received massive support from the Hispanic community.
How do you distinguish between Jewish and “white.” What test will distinguish them?
Where I live, for one. Among many groups, Newark has a large population of Russians, Ukranians, and Poles. Many of them are poor and unassimilated because they just arrived here. But they are doing it, just like everyone else.
Briton Beach in NYC is another place.
Really. Sionnach will not admit defeat. She just will not do that. You guys need to accept and learn this. You can scream foul as much as you want. You can point to the logical fallacies until time itself stops. You can decry her cites and foundations as the lowest of bias crap until you are blue from the effort. Yet she will not stop.
I’m getting tired if repeating this. Anyone that knows me from other debates would know that I am the first one to call cites, present my own cites, defeat logical fallacies and call people on their poor rhetoric. Likewise I will gladly admit when I get carried away or err in the same ways. You won’t find me doing that in this thread- none of it.
Why?
Simply for the reasons I have mentioned before and that more and more of you are starting to take into your posts. It’s a mental illness. It’s goddamned pathological. It’s a complete refusal to even try to see reality for what it is. It’s got names. Paranoia, anger issues, delusions, inferiority problems, sociopathic, psychopathic – call it what you will. I’m not one to like psychology and all the vagueness that it entails, but when it comes to these guys I have to admit that at least the simple diagnosis that something is desperately amiss is so obvious that you need not kiss Freud’s nicotine and psychoanalysis crap stinking departed ass to understand that.
Again on that note:
Sionnach, you keep on saying;
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt for a moment and pretend that you are neither mad nor a neo-Nazi (which are not mutually exclusive concepts rather the contrary, but still).
Just answer these questions:
[ol][li]The Jews, are they involved in any conspiracies?[/li]
[li]The Jews, are they contaminating the white race from the inside?[/li]
[li]The white race is equal to who exactly?[/li]
[li]Do you believe in racially pure nations?[/li]
[li]Do you believe that self-determination should be granted races, or should it only be granted political unities called states where many races live?[/li]
[li]Is there an ongoing struggle between the races that is motivated by the natural racial differences?[/li]
[li]Are certain races inferior in any way?[/li]
[li]What is the chief goal of the white race?[/li]
[li]If races unite into racially pure nations, will this create a natural harmony that will solve many societal problems like decreasing crime to acceptable levels?[/li]
[li]Should people that do not belong to the dominant race in a territorial nation be let alone and live there, or should they be deported into ‘their own nation’?[/li]
[li]What about the Jews? Do we let them stay where they are or should the majority of them be moved to somewhere? If so, where to?[/ol]Answer those questions and I am certain that most people will feel more comfortable as to the name calling.[/li]
Sparc
Because you did say it. Either that, or you are freely admitting that you didn’t answer the question. Let’s recap, shall we?
You said:
Note your choice of the word “prosperous” there.
I said:
You responded:
Please note that this was your direct response to my challenge.
So, if you didn’t say the propsperity of the U.S. is on the decline, and that it has nothing to do with an increase in immigration, please explain the relevance of your “1960s” statistics.
Also, you said multiculturalism does not lead to prosperity. Prove it. I once again submit the U.S. as evidence against that position.
Lot of Russians in San Fran also. Don’t know how recent they are, but Russian is the third most common language i hear on the bus (behind Cantonese, followed by English, then Spanish fourth). I also see plenty of study guides for becoming a US citizen. I bet many white high schoolers would fail that test.
Yes, but if she quit, i’d have to find another thread to laugh at. Where is SeethruArt when you need him?
Actually, I think economic freedom, tempered by noncoercion, leads to prosperity.
As to Sionnach’s unwillingness to admit defeat, it’s really nothing more than her overall psychosis. She has demonstrated that she has no comprehension of first order logic, that she really doesn’t understand White Nationalism, that she applies double standards in her judgments, and that there is no accounting for her deviation from the norm.
Yeah, Sparc, I hear ya. But I was wondering that, too–“Why are we all still here?” And I went back and read over the thread, and I was mentally comparing this thread to other racism threads, and something Lib said way back on page 5 finally sank in:
In other debates with racists, when the thread deteriorates into the OP’s mere ranting after a few pages, people lose interest and drift away from the discussion–in other words, when the OP no longer has a POV that is simply, obviously “wrong”, a POV that is something that can be addressed.
But the threads that keep going are the ones where the OP keeps coming back with actual cites and arguments that can be discussed, things that can be Googled.
And, you know, as long as the OP keeps coming back with arguments and with links, I realized that we owe it to the Fight Against Ignorance to at least try to refute the arguments, and at least address the links, no matter how pointless or puerile they are.
So, I’m still here, after all. But I’m wondering how long it’ll be before the OP can’t take it any more and starts merely ranting.
Good Morning!
Someone asked what I thought of Hawaii, so I gave the opinion of someone I have talked to. The implications are that places with a non-white majority are not nearly as tolerant as places with a white majority. Whites nowadays bend over backwards to prove that they are “tolerant” and “multicultural”, yet most non-whites know that this stuff is bullshit, so they advance their own self-interests and are as bigoted as they want to be, because this society doesn’t punish and condemn non-white bigots. This leads me to believe that when our nations are non-white majority, we will face a great deal of discrimination and violence directed towards us as whites. We think this should be prevented.
Declining birth rates in almost all western nations + rapid immigration from the third world. It’s very simple, yet none of you are able to grasp it because you are stuck in the dogma of “all cultures are equal and all cultures will assimilate” or “there is no unique culture of the west to preserve anyway… why not let it all go muslim or hindu?”
Black males make up 6% of the population, yet are responsible for half the crime and 43% of all rapes. That’s a very violent group, and I wouldn’t want myself, or my children to be living anywhere near an area made up of mostly blacks.
I do no such thing. I know that there are anti-Zionist Jews and “righteous Jews”. Why should this stop me from opposing the actions of 80% of the organized jewry out there? Why should the existance of a single good individual jew stop me from opposing the actions of groups like the ADL?
I don’t insist on anything but to stop arguing with me as someone I am not. If you want to argue against a “neo-nazi” or a “supremacist”, find a neo-nazi or supremacist and argue with them. If I wanted to argue against the tactics of organized Jewry such as the ADL, I wouldn’t keep hecking one little jewboy about it after he’s already stated that he doesn’t like the ADL either. That’s pointless.
I insist no such thing about genetics. Come on Lib, I know you are intelligent and you could do a little better than this. I said that homosexuality is a sexual deviation. Are you denying this?
How are my deviances a “genetic defect”? By differing in opinion from you? Need I remind you that a controversial opinion isn’t a genetic defect?
Homosexuality is now being taught in some public schools to very young children. I’m very much against this. I don’t think any sexuality should be taught in school, IMHO.
Oh, blah. Here comes the stereotypical self-righteous indian line. Sir, your ancestors and many of the tribes around your ancestors always battled each other for land and resources. You expect me to believe the fairytale about indians all being in some peaceful pacifist utopia before the white man came? It’s a fairytale and nothing but. You guys had wars with each other and conquered each other through force. Some tribes practiced human sacrifice and cannibalism with their victims. It was the way of the world for thousands of years. Groups of people conquer others for land and resources. You guys happened to have all been conquered by people from a technologically advanced civilization. Too bad, so sad, but the winners have a right to do with the land whatever they wish. If this means getting rid of criminals and not allowing floods of others to come in so that their children can live in peace and prosperity, so be it.
When did I say I want to nuke Israel? I only said that I wouldn’t care if it were nuked to get a rise out of the ranting little jewish princess 
As for eviction, do you think WNs want to live in a nation with Zionists? Been there, done that. We don’t want them.
This is a bullshit parrot on your part. There are more impovershed whites in America than impovershed blacks. If impovershed whites had the same crime rate as the impovershed blacks, the crime rate in the US would be insanely high.
http://www.jabpage.com/facts/racestat/racestat11.html
Arnold Rothstein was the founding father of American organized crime…" - Jewish Post of New York
Were the Jews tooting their own horn? Maybe, maybe not.
I don’t think they are on my team at all just because they are white. Do you think that we think that every white liberal is on our team? We know that the white liberal and corporate elite is part of the worst enemy. However, I would still rather live near those white corporate criminals than a rapist or a murderer. I would rather be a victim of fraud by those white collar criminals than a victim of rape and murder by a black thug.
Taxes are in all the Western nations. Why should every white American/Canadian who doesn’t like how their tax money is spent leave? I thought we had a democratic republic going on. If most Americans and Canadians want the immigration flooding to stop, it should stop. Fair and simple.
Nativeborn people of the country have more of a right to welfare than someone who just hops a border because it’s convenient. Why should someone who has lived somewhere their entire life half to pay for the welfare of someone who just shows up because they are attracted to the scent of money?
Get back to me with that when mestizos are the vast majority of California. It’ll be like the French Quebec, but filthy.
Yup. Conspiracy is another word for dirty politics, and they play plenty dirty politics.
Read Culture of Critique, and you tell me.
No one, because I don’t believe in “equality”. No human beings are equal, no races are equal, and no cultures are equal.
You mean like Israel wants to be? Why not?
Yes, I do believe that self-determination should be granted to all races and different cultural groups.
Whether the difference is racial or cultural, there is definately a struggle.
Every race has it’s weak point.
I don’t know how you expect this question to be answered. Different people in the white race have different goals. As for WN’s, the chief goal is our own living space that won’t be flooded with non-whites as a safe place to raise our children and prosper in peace.
Let’s see…white Americans could get rid of 43% of all rapes and almost half of all violent crime by moving a fraction of the population into their own nation, or seceding to form their own. As for negros, they’ll probably continue doing what they always do, as can be shown by the butchery that goes on in Africa. That is none of my concern. Let them grow up on their own instead of expecting “whitey” to hold their hand and throw them money.
There is a difference of opinions on this, but my personal belief is that small amounts are acceptable, but that a strong demographic majority must be maintained. In white nations, a strong white majority must be maintained even if a few Asians are allowed to live in port cities. Ditto for everyone else in the world. Every country has the right to maintain a strong demographic majority to avoid ethnic rivalry and strife.
Israel or Mars.
High doses of immigration are a short term pill. In the long term, it’s doomed to failure. Already, wages have spiraled downward and job security is a thing of the past for most. Right now, everything is still propped up on the system that was built by whites. America is not egalitarian, even though that’s being pressed for most vigorously. White people are still the majority and are still the ones putting most of the tax money in. Third world immigration has only been coming in since 1965. Let’s see how well the US “prospers” a few decades from now when whites are a minority and mestizos the majority 
As a Libertarian, do you support the current immigration floods?
Taking my tax dollars to prop up programs for blacks and immigrants is coercion. The mestizos pouring into the US are all either democratic voting, or they support the neoconservative “compassionate” conservatism which supports taxation for social programs. In other words, you’ll get more big government liberalism with your blessed non-white majority. Whites are the voting block in the US that most want to scale back government. This is why American Libertarians who are pro-immigration crack me up. They are basically slitting their own throat. In the name of non-statism, they support flooding their country with people that love the state and will vote pro-State, thus dooming themselves to a future where they will never gain enough support to make any difference in an election. When there is increasing ethnic strife and rivalry, who do you think it lying in wait to “fix things”? Big government. Who supports immigration? It’s not the people, it’s Big Government.
At least the paleo-libertarians get it.
I’ll leave with this statement from an article, since this thread is beginning to bore me. We’re just going back and forth and no one has convinced me why multiculturalism is a great thing.
*"The real extremism lies with the pro-immigration crowd that denies the right of states and local governments to control immigration into their own communities, and thus denies that traditional American institutions, even when influenced by a reasonable number of immigrants, are anything worth preserving.
Being the grandson of Mexican immigrants myself, I can sympathize with those who want to escape the inequality and poverty of Latin America. However, simply turning the United States into part of Latin America is not going to solve the problem. The unique institutions of the United States are what makes it such a draw to immigrants. If want are to be a true help to immigrants, we must be sure that our society is preserved, so that in a generation it will continue to offer the promise of a free society and not become little more than a clone of the societies that these immigrants are trying to escape in the first place.*
You are deliberately omitting the part of the equation that addresses population density. That is simply dishonest.
And since you have based your impressions of gut feelings backed up by poorly supported partial statistics and badly written revisionist history, no one ever will.
Hah! It’s fun to take quotes out of context and use them to prove whatever you want, innit?
Uh huh. :rolleyes: Here’s the actual article.
http://www.jewishpost.com/jp0404/jpn0404a.htm
Ah ha! Jew Haters of the World, sit up and take note! By golly, it sure does say that!
Oh, but…read the rest of the article, maybe? :rolleyes:
It’s a friggin’ book review. [insert emoticon for extreme disgust] He’s just summarizing what’s in Cohen’s book. The only person who thinks that Arnold Rothstein was the “founding father of American organized crime” is Rich Cohen. Not the Jewish Post. Not even Gad Nahshon.
And then there’s this, from towards the end of the book review, which of course you ignored because it didn’t prove your point.
Thus, apparently the only person here who thinks that Arnold Rothstein was the “founding father of American organized crime” is a Rolling Stone contributing editor named Rich Cohen, and his book is a romanticized, and thus probably-not-terribly-accurate one.
Another reviewer speaks.
http://www.chron.com/cgi-bin/auth/story/content/chronicle/ae/books/9798/04/19/toughjews.html
Thus, your “cite” is useless and proves nothing.
Um, hanh? [does double take] Someone asked you what you thought, so you told him what someone else thought? ROFLMAO! Thank you for proving what we already suspected–that you are incapable of thinking for yourself.
Me, too. And can I get an “amen”?
Yeah, and did you notice how you’ve failed to convince us that multiculturalism is a bad thing?
sigh My head hurts.
So whites are allowed to hold your views on nationalism but non-whites are not? Shouldn’t you be supporting the struggle of nationalists in every area? Why or why not?
I’m attempting to see a problem in this dogma, but it’s escaping me. Cultures change and assimilate all the time. Victorian Europe is gone forever. Pre-Columbus America is gone forever. 1950s America is gone forever. The only constant is change.
Let us consider ultimate and proximate causes. What could be proximate causes of this?
There is a difference between opposing actions and opposing identity. Your posts to date suggest that you oppose them not only because of their actions, but simply because they are Jewish.
So if you don’t disagree with all Jews, then why do you feel that they all should be deported?
I could substitute “Europe” for “Indian” in that statement and create a compelling argument (from your pov) for Muslims to invade Europe.
Please refrain from doing this in the future; it confuses your arguments
Then why are you still in NA? Buy an island somewhere.
I want to see a cite regarding urban black crime versus urban white crime.
We have established that there was Jewish organized crime in America. How is this fundamentally different from Italian organized crime and the original Irish organized crime?
Would a white thug be acceptable? What if you were defrauded by a white collar criminal who happened to be black?
If a vast majority of Americans and Canadians want immigration to stop, why aren’t they voting against it? If your view is in the minority, you can either suck it up or leave. Claiming there is some kind of “silent majority” doesn’t make it so.
This directly contradicts your stand against welfare for blacks. And I don’t believe in 10 pages of debate you have shown any sort of statistics on the number or proportion of immigrants on welfare or the amount of money they cost the state vs. the amount of money they contribute to the state through taxes?
I don’t understand your reference to French Quebec, especially since the Quebecois were there long before the English.
Show that Jewish politicians use significantly more dirty politics than white politicians.
Didn’t we establish long ago that this was not an acceptable source??
Yet you systematically protest that you do not believe some cultures are inferior to others. If you replaced the word “equal” with “alike”, I would be with you all the way. However, as it is I would ask how you came to this conclusion and how you have concluded that white culture is superior and therefore must be preserved. If it is strong and superior, it won’t disappear. If not, it deserves to be extinguished in a darwinian fashion. Either way your position gets no support.
Straw man. There are plenty of people that disagree with Israel’s policies regarding the Palestinians.
You seem to think that cultural groups/races have some kind of hive mind that makes them all agree about everything. And if most white Americans have chosen to embrace multiculturalism, then shouldn’t you go along with the wishes of the group?
What is the weak point of the white race?
Well, in support of that goal why don’t you establish your own country somewhere? Why would you even want this sort of thing in America? It’s not like its your homeland or anything like that.
The problems in Africa are largely caused by the legacy of colonialism. And getting rid of white collar white Americans could cut down on 75% of white-collar fraud. Apparently rehabilitation is not a part of your New World Order.
Of course they have that right. The US and Canada have thankfully chosen not to exercise that right. Suck it up, seriously agitate for change, or leave.
Surely you’re not claiming that the present economic situation is the result of immigration. Surely you’re not claiming that the dot-com problem, the twisted accounting books of Enron etc., and the business cycle itself (which is supposed to have recessions, btw) are all caused by immigration. Oh no, it must be the Jews, right? :rolleyes: See, if the US economy had been in steady decline since 1965 (btw, cite please) you might have a case. But since 1965 the market has gone up and down, as markets are wont to do.
I realize much of this is towards Libertarians, so I’ll leave it to them. But I would venture that they understand that not everyone shares their views and that a non-Libertarian nation, should it be the will of the people, is perfectly acceptable. They also acknowledge the fact that they are not in the majority.
Likewise
While it does look slightly paranoid, your link says nothing about closing all borders and removing all immigrants currently in America. It only suggests that immigration be severely limited; an idea that sounds at least vaguely defensible.
In short, you give a lot of contradictory claims. The end result of your philosophy would seem to be for white people to establish their own country and keep them durn furriners out. Why you want to turn America into this country beyond me.
The sentence in italics says it all. You are afraid that your race will find itself staring down the barrel of non-white supremacy (to steal a phrase from Bono), just as many races have done. But what you fail to realize is that by promoting racial separatism in the way you advocate, in effect you’re ensuring that your worst fears come true. By refusing to transcend an “us” vs “them” mentality, by amplifying the disharmonious differences in cultures instead of seeing the cool similarities, by prejudging people just because of their country of origin and skin tone, you automatically make yourself an enemy to groups who otherwise would be your allies and comrades. Think about it. People don’t start trying to break into a house until the owners put up burgular bars and security fences.
If you don’t want to be a target to those you fear, stop making yourself one. It’s as simple as that.
Why haven’t you gotten tired of spouting the same ole stupid statistic? Show me a stat that says most of the victims of “black” crime are white and perhaps I’ll play a sad diddy on my violin. Or better yet show me a stat that says that the average white person is more likely to be victimized by a black crook than a white crook, and maybe my eyes will start leaking tears. But not because I’m actually saddened by the news. It’ll be because flying pigs have always made me laugh until I cry.
LOL! You are more likely to be raped and murdered by a white person than you are a black. Take the blinders off and maybe you’ll see that lily white skin doesn’t always translate into lily white morality. I really hope you don’t end up excessively trusting someone who means you harm simply because your eyes see them as being good by virtue of their color. But, actually, I take that back. It would be quite fitting (in a storybook irony kind of way) if you were attacked by a white dude and the one person who came to your rescue was a black person, who coincidentally you saw a few days earlier and immediately reacted to as if he was a thug.
Actually there is some amount of truth WRT the claims about organized crime. It happens that the era of the heaviest Jewish involvement in organized crime (1890s - 1940s) was also the time at which organized crime was taking the form that it has now. Specifically, changing from brawling street gangs of mostly amatuer thugs to relatively sophisticated businesslike professional criminal operations. This being driven largely by the labor union wars, and, later and more significantly, by the Prohibition. Rothstein was a prominent figure in organizing criminal efforts WRT the latter, and is thought to have had a large role (primarily financial) in setting up criminal enterprises to take advantage of the situation.
I’ve read Cohen’s book - he takes a very romantic view of these Jewish thugs, and is exaggerating the role of Rothstein. But there is - as there is apt to be - a kernel of truth in it.
But it is irrelevant here. During this same time period, the Italian mobsters were at least as numerous as the Jewish ones, if not more. Sal Marranzano, Al Capone, Lucky Luciano etc. etc.
Irish involvement was pretty small. Most of the great 19th century NYC street gangs were primarily Irish, but they did not seem to organize themselves as organized crime in the way of the other ethnic groups.
So I guess this means if you are Irish you can call for all the Jews and Italians to be deported. Or something.
Sionnach said:
Yeah, because they aren’t stupid enough to “think” that somebody’s religion has anything to do with their skin color.
Of course, that is even if you really think “races” have any real differences at all, as I discussed in my message summarizing what was said in the book, Bad Medicine – which you ignored, as well as ignoring the message I’d written prior to that in which I asked you several questions and pointed out several huge flaws. But don’t worry – we expect that from you.
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Sionnach, I’m the person who asked the question about Hawaii, and I responded to your reply at the bottom ofthis page. You did not see fit to answer me.
I’ve been stranded in the worst neighborhood in Honolulu after midnight. I felt much safer there than I would in the equivalent neighborhoods in most US East Coast cities. While I was living in Hawaii, there was a “wilding” incident where some teenager ran amok through downtown Honolulu. The reaction from pretty much the entire population was “Shame on you!”, ala someone’s maiden aunt. While I couldn’t find crime statistics on-line, it’s my understanding that Honolulu has a lower crime rate per capita than most cities its size. The economics in Hawaii are horrendous, I’ll admit, but that’s due in large part to the white-owned “Big 5” corporations and/or the Bishop Estate which is also run by white people.
Here on the mainland, I live in a mixed-race neighborhood, and feel as safe if not safer here as I did growing up in my almost all white small town. Among other things, this neighborhood lacks something my hometown has – a tradition of bored teenagers smashing mailboxes late at night. I’ve walked to and from the bus stop with both black and Asian neighbors as well as white neighbors, and found them equally pleasant. In fact, the person I liked least was a rather obnoxious, superior, white woman. Then again, that is only anecdote colored by personal experience and attitude. I’ve never had anything stolen from me here, nor am I all that worried about it. That happened to me twice in high school.
Even assuming the crime statistics you parrot are accurate, most crime is inter-racial, i.e. blacks tend to prey on blacks, and whites tend to prey on whites. I’m in far more danger from a white man than a black man. I’ve also heard far more vicious racist and anti-immigrant speech first hand from white people than I have from black people.
Discrimination continues to exist in the US. A few years ago, I worked in a manufacturing plant in that small town I mentioned. Black people were only allowed to work in one small section of the plant with even fewer opportunities for advancement, not that there were many to begin with. One man was pulled from his job on the shop floor to work in that section, and not for any disciplinary reason that I’m aware of, and I’m pretty sure I would have been aware of any.
As for immigrants getting more benefits than US citizens, as I told kulkulcon, that has not been my experience. As someone who was in the process of being naturalized when I graduated from college, I could not get jobs with the US government because I was not a US citizen (by the way, I don’t consider that to be an unreasonable position – it was just frustrating because I had started the process and it was in the hands of that same government). I was also not eligible for the National Merit Scholarship simply because I was not a citizen, despite meeting the rest of the qualifications, including high enough test scores. Inheritance taxes are higher for non-citizens. Finally, quite frankly, I have to deal with the attitudes of people like you who, because I look and sound mostly American, feel free to bash all “immigrants” when they actually appear to mean “illegal aliens” and say things like “Everyone who wasn’t born in this country should leave now.” When a coworker said that shortly after September 11th, I pointed out to her that, if she meant it, it was going to be a lot longer before her database was fixed.
You haven’t mentioned whether or not you’re a Christian, but I will point out for those WNs who are that Christ deliberately used foreigners and outsiders to make his points, most notably in the parable of the Good Samaritan. He also first revealed Himself as Messiah to a Samaritan woman, and one who had a reputation as a bit of a slut at that. Samaritans, at the time, were about as well thought of as Mexicans today.
Look, if you want to set up your own nation, that’s fine with me. I’ll treat it like I do a certain white suburb near here which saw no problem in promoting a racist cop who beat his last two wives. I won’t visit it, I won’t spend my money in it, in fact, I’ll have as little to do with it as possible.
You with the face, I experienced very little discrimination against white people in Hawaii. In fact the Episcopal Church is quite well thought of there and Queen Liliuokalani was quite impressed by a trip she made to England. So much so that she adopted the idea that beaches should be property of the crown, thus public property (with a very few exceptions), among other things.
A tally and short commentary to my 11 questions and Sionnach’s answers:
1 out 11.
In other words yes I take it. To be clear I poked around a little in what the blabbering idiocy in forenamed piece of less than quasi scientific literary dung has to say on the topic. The muttonhead MacDonald, supposed scholar and scientist, embraces several ideas that would equate with a clear “Yes,” in response to my question.
2 out of 11.
Obviously your wearing that red, white and black armband a little too tightly around the arm as for what is good for the blood circulation, or maybe I’m being less than clear in phrasing question. I meant to inquire as to white makes up the white race. You answer is however telling enough, and you have answered elsewhere, rep[etedly confusing nationality with race and culture. As far as I understand, in your view it it is some of the people with relatively recent European ancestry, but only the ‘nice ones’, that make up this imaginary race. I tentatively say that this makes
3 out of 11
Didn’t your mother tell you that it isn’t polite to answer a question with a question? Anyway, I take the answer to be affirmative.
4 out of 11
5 out of 11
Since you equate race and culture to such confusion as to be more or less the same thing I take it the answer is an unequivocal yes.
6 out of 11
Aha, nice attempot to dodge the issue, but you’ve said some stuff before about it… Like that ‘they’ commit more crimes and are less reliable and so on, and so on? I’ll just chalk you up for a yes based on your continuous diatribe of intolerance and condesencion against various imagined races that you entertain in your mind.
7 out of 11
Lebensraum in other words.
8 out of 11
That would be a yes then.
9 out of 11
Really now? We would never have guessed.
So lets see… that’s 10 out of 11
And JACKPOT!!! That is 11 opinions out of 11 that agree with the neo-Nazi weltanschauung.
Note that no other ideology would agree with all of those. What does that make Sionnach? Nah! Never! So many nice things to say about Jews, homosexuals, blacks, Mexicans and what not! Who would have dreamt she was a little neo-Nazi after all. The world never ceases to surprise me.
Sparc
Good to see you guys are still here. Hope everyone’s doin’ well.
SPARC SAID: I poked around a little in what the blabbering idiocy in forenamed piece of less than quasi scientific literary dung has to say on the topic. The muttonhead MacDonald, supposed scholar and scientist…Obviously your wearing that red, white and black armband a little too tightly…continuous diatribe of intolerance and condesencion …Didn’t your mother tell you that it isn’t polite…
RESPONSE: Hey Sparc- you trying to take our jobs as the “haters?” Seriously- what is your problem? You need to calm down and discuss these issues like an adult.
Regarding the national socialist ideal- I don’t speak for Sionnach or anyone else, but I agree with everything that Sionnach said and that Sparc inferred from her words. In other words, I agree with the Nazi ideal as Sparc defined it, except about IQ- East Asians are very high, and Jews are highest of all.
Let’s look at this Nazi ideal. What exactly is “evil” about it, if the facts are as we believe them to be (jews are manipulative weasels, races differentiate in intelligence and aggressiveness)? Isn’t geographical separation fair and just?
Or, look at it from the other side. If the facts are as we believe them to be (which they are), why is every bastard politician from Al Sharpton to Pat Buchanan forcing a race-mixing, Arab-bombing genocide on White America?
We are always seeing TV and movies about the heroic Native Americans fighting evil whites who came to take their land. Why do you think we are told that it is evil for US to fight back against those who come to take OUR lands such as the U.S. and Europe?
Huh? Who the HELL is trying to take your land away from you?