Halogen asked:
Gosh, I dunno. Maybe it’s the murder of millions upon millions of innocent people. Just for a start…
This is a magazine some of you guys might read. There was recently an article called “Fighting AntiSemitism” or something, and I read it today.
This article, written by a jew, treated criticism of jews as a mental disease that needs to be overcome the same way as AIDS. Alan Dershowitz recently said somewhere that criticism of Israel (Isntreal) is OK, but THIS (whatever the opposition was saying) is different and not OK!
What jews need to realize is that antisemitism is a reasoned response to their genocidal tactics against Palestinians and against White countries. I think that most of them know this and they speak with a forked tongue, seeking only to deligitimize all threats to their position of dominance in Israel as well as in the global media and governments.
Anyone care to defend antiSemitism as a mental illness?
Halogen asked:
You’re just asking for somebody to point to you and say, “Exhibit A,” aren’t you?
Are you so naive that you didn’t know how to start a separate thread for a separate debate topic?
Daoloth, I’m not really sure it is a separate debate topic. In fact, if it were true, it would explain an awful lot about the way these two “debate”…
Ah, true. It seems like such a flagrant hijack, but I guess it does tie in in a fickle sort of manner. ::shrug::
Our government has been trying to take this country away from Whites for the past 50 years. The so-called Civil Rights Movement is the best example, though the Immigration Act of 1965 is a close second. That Act ensures that 9 of every 10 immigrants today are nonwhite. Do we really want to live in a Third World America?
About the supposed murder of millions (6 million, according to Official Doctrine), I should have assumed that you would rely on this. Well, it didn’t happen. Allied aerial photographs of the supposed “death camps” during WWII, scientific searches for residue of Zyklon B in the supposed “gas chambers,” conflicting and changing accounts of the methods of execution, and torture during the so-called “interrogations” of Nazi war prisoners all point to this conclusion. The name “holocaust” originated in the first story- Simon Wiesenthal originally said that jews were thrown into burning pits and died there. Then some photos of doors marked “Danger” (in German) surfaced and these pictures led to the current myth. Those doors led into closets where prisoners’ clothes were deloused with Zyklon B. Check www.ihr.org and www.stormfront.org for some good sources on this.
If I’m Exhibit A of “mental illness” among anti-Semites, it would strengthen the case if I were mentally ill, wouldn’t it?
Oh great, a Holocaust denier.
Listen, you. One of my aunt’s dearest friends was in Aushwitz. Did he tattoo numbers on his arm at the age of 18 just for shits and giggles?
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A new debate topic is OK by me. Sorry for offending Daoloth.
DavidB: What’s wrong with debating with facts (however you may dispute them) instead of one-line-putdowns?
Of course your aunt’s friend didn’t tatoo himself or herself. Jews and others were involuntarily interned and tatooed and many died of disease. But the evidence that I just cited indicates that there was no Final Solution or gas chambers.
Sorry, but I’ve been living in large cities in the US and Europe for the past twenty years, so maybe I missed some of the news. Exactly what “genocidal tactics against White countries” are we talking about here?
Also, if it wasn’t so repulsive, I’d laugh my ass off at the statement that advocating the destruction of an entire class of people, based only on their ancestry, is somehow a “reasoned response” to anything at all.
That’s utterly idiotic. The word ‘holocaust’ is from the 13th century, is Middle English, and comes from the Late Latin holocaustum.
Moreover, the scientific “debunkings” of Zyklon-B usage have been debunked many times over. The Leuchter report collapsed under scrutiny when it was revealed that Leuchter lacked an actual engineering degree, was not an expert, and lied numerous times.
Furthermore, there is no credible evidence that Nazi POWs were ever tortured in the West during interrogation, Allied photos DO show processions of prisoners walking to gas chambers, and more. Why don’t you check some out? www.nizkor.org
Oh, and then, how about this: Even if the Holocaust is a “hoax,” as you assert, most revisionists do claim that as many as 300,000 Jews did perish under Nazi persecution, and that millions of people were forced into squalid conditions.
Even that is still EVIL.
El Kabong:
Promotion of race-mixing through TV, movies, music (e.g. jews Sumner Redstone and Michael Eisner). The Civil Rights movement and the urban myth that the races are equal in intelligence and aggressiveness (jews Franz Boas and Stephen Jay Gould, as well as the media). Character assassination of pro-White candidates for office such as David Duke (the media generally).
Antisemitism is not the destruction of the entire “class” of jews. It is not the destruction of anything- it is separation. Why do jews hate that idea so much?
Daoloth:
Holocaust: I meant that the word was originally applied to the German response to jews because of Wiesenthal’s story. You are right- it is of course a very old word meaning something like “big fire.”
I’ll check out www.nizkor.org right now.
Wrong about the evil thing, though. The Germans had a huge problem with jews destroying their culture and country. Self-defense can be deadly but I would not consider this evil. A planned program of extinction may have been evil, but the deaths that did occur were incidental to the plan of separation, and unintended.
Halogen asked:
You’ve already made it quite clear that you are not at all interested in facts. Go play with your other Nazi friends – or yourself. Whichever suits you.
I hate to even justify Halogen with this much, especially since I know he’ll ignore it and anything else we tell him, but in case anybody who is not mentally ill is reading this, check this out from the Straight Dope Mailbag:
DAOLOTH: That’s an interesting site and they purport to definitively refute everything I’ve read. This will take some time and research to sort out, and I’ll get back to you on it. In the meantime, I recommend that you check out my source, www.ihr.org.
If “the Holocaust” really did happen, why is it illegal to disagree in most of Europe and Canada (I think the 1st A is the only thing protecting discussion in the US!) Why was the IHR’s office firebombed in 1986 and why are historians such as David Irving and others routinely imprisoned and even physically assaulted? Sounds to me like there is something to hide; no other dissenters over some supposed historical event are prosecuted by law.
If “the Holocaust” did happen, why are there endless references to it on TV and in movies, in contrast to infrequent references to the 20+ million murdered by Communists (initially led by jews) in the Soviet Union, or the millions murdered in China by Mao? Again, I think such bias is at the least very suspicious.
Halogen, with massive amounts of backwards illogic, said:
You just answered your own question. Europe and Canada don’t have the same free speech rights that we have here in the U.S. Lucky you, you can spout your hatred freely. But lack of free speech has nothing to do with whether or not the Holocaust happened. In fact, the reason some European countries (such as Germany) restricts such claims is because they’ve been through it once and don’t want your kind of hatred popping up again.
Because somebody got tired of the hatred they were spewing. That doesn’t make their response right, of course, but again, it has nothing to do with the facts at issue here. Then again, you’ve shown that you want nothing to do with said facts…
No other dissenters are filled with such hatred as you guys are. And again, one has nothing to do with the other.
What a completely nonsensical question. If there were NO references to it on TV and movies, you’d use that as evidence it didn’t happen! But since there are, you somehow want to use that as evidence? Jeez-us, man, go take Logic 101 at your local community college!
Because the millions murdered by communism (lead by ATHIESTS!) were not designed as a way to wipe an entire people off of the planet!
BTW, Stalin was NOT a Jew-he was a Georgian Orthodox.
You mean like Zionism?
You mean like Zionism?