So let me get this straight. The different nations of the world-North Korea, Japan, Iraq, the US, Algeria, France, Serbia, Croatia, and so on are all going to forget their differences and form a one-world government, but varying ethnicities in one nation will cause it to fragment.
Am I missing something or are these two statements mutually contradictory?
It says Jews promote muticulturalism (and other “deviant” practices) because that makes Jews feel safer. Well no shit, Sherlock. Why do you think Jews feel the need to feel safer? Could it be because they have suffered thousands of years of persecution and are now down to only 14 million people?
It implies that Jews promote multiculturalism as part of an ongoing campaign ie that all Jews are in on some long term plan ie that there is a Jewish conspiracy - anyone who believes there is a Jewish conspiracy is a fool.
You linked me to an article by some outfit called American Prowler about a business deal gone wrong. The article concerned a case brought under the Canadian Human Rights Act. Did you read the actual ruling made by the judges or just the biased article?
I only ask because to me (as a trained lawyer, albeit in UK law) the ruling seemed fair. The mention of the Jewish angle seemed superfluous, purely designed to provoke an emotional response of some kind in the reader, it had no relevance as to why the business deal went wrong.
As an obviously intelligent person, don’t you get a bit impatient with the level of debate over on stormforce?
As an obviously intelligent person, don’t you have any other interests apart from neo-nazism? On this board, people who bang on about the same subject all the time are considered One-Trick Ponies and generally get laughed at.
For example, in all the time I’ve been here I’ve never once mentioned my own politics. And yet I feel as strongly about my politics as you do yours, it’s just that the subject has never come up and I have more interesting things to talk about.
FTR I’m an anarchist (the exact opposite of a “one-world government” type). Imagine the lively controversial discussions I could have about THAT, yet I’ve never once mentioned it. Not because I don’t want to, or I’m ashamed of it, or anything else - just because my mind revolves around many things and it’s never seemed relevant to bring the subject up.
Oh, apart from once, when I started a thread about whether we could abolish money and get everything for free instead.
a) Who are your “own people”?
b) What is your “[own] culture”?
c) How is your culture, whatever it is, being destroyed?
These are questions which you have been asked many times, and have consistently failed to answer. Do you actually plan to, are do you wish to simply admit that you can’t? And, just to humor me, since you will undoubtedly claim you have answered them, why don’t you just go ahead an summarize your answers for me. Since I’m a brainwashed multiculturalist, and all; it helps to spell these things out.
You’ve also failed to acknowledge the former treatment of Irish immigrants. This is important because it shows just how flawed your whole “white culture” concept is.
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What’s wrong with that, aside from the fact that it’s just a bunch of vague rhetoric until you address the above questions, is the way you wish to go about “protecting” your culture. As has been noted numerous times, forced deportation, seizure of property, and so on are barbaric, to say the least.
You continually claim that you are not a Nazi, neo-Nazi or whatever, yet you wish to tread down that very same path to achieve your “racial purity”. Especially with respect to Jews. Sorry but you can’t deny those accusations, as you’ve made your feelings in those respects very clear many times.
Heh, Sionnach claims to be from Maryland which is part of rural Appalachia. I’m not from there, but it is my impression that early marriage of females is not all that uncommon there.
Does bisexuality preclude membership in White Nationalism? I believe that there is a conservative Dutch gay politician generally endorsed by Sionnach if I remember correctly.
And stupidity is entirely objective, particularly if you are stupid.
We already went through this, Guin. She prefers the term “Western Civilization.”
When pressed to define the term, she referred to the Renaissance (presumably the Italian version, as gobear pointed out) and Christianity.
When it was pointed out that the Renaissance meant entirely different things to different countries, and touched many European countries not in the slightest, and that many cultures she would consider part of Western Civilization had jack shit to do with Christianity, she declined to specify further what it was that served as a common thread that united all the ridiculouslly diverse–often directly antithetical–cultures of Europe for the last couple millenia.
That’s probably because, as gobear also astutely observed, she’s entirely ignorant of the European culture she claims to be defending. At least, I don’t recall hearing so much as a peep out of her regarding the challenge to discuss three Western writers, painters, or composers and a critical analysis of their work. Defender of Western Civilization, my winterfresh ass. grienspace: Even if it was her–which I am sure it is not–it is frowned upon around here to identify one’s fellow Dopers without their express permission. You may want to ask a mod to remove that link.
Actually, there was a case in the ICJ. Nicaragua v. US, the ICJ stated that the US did violate international law with regards to supporting the Contras in Nicaragua.
I would just like to offer my appreciation to those posters who are engaging in point-counterpoint debate for distinguishing your posts from those that are, for all practical purposes, interchangable with posts at the WN board.
Thank you, Brujo, but I would have preferred that Sionnach be the one to go look it up. It’d do her a world of good to have to do some actual research, instead of merely parroting everything she hears various pundits say.
BTW, as long as I’m here…
Sionnach, so far you haven’t said much about Native Americans. You’ve been ranting about making the Blacks go back to Africa, and the Browns go back to Latin America, and the Yellows go back to Asia, and the Jews go back to Israel–but conspicuous by their absence so far has been any mention of Native Americans. (What color are they, BTW? Are they Reds, or does “Red” mean “Communist”?)
Anyway, where would you like them to go? Their ancestors came over from Asia 12,000 years ago, so does that make them Yellows?
Or, as seems more likely, do they just not appear on your personal Ugly Immigrant Radar, since they’re for the most part safely tucked away in reservations, and you don’t have to look at them, or read restaurant reviews of their immigrant cooking, or read articles by pundits complaining that White Culture is being “flooded” by Native American culture?
But they’re still different, aren’t they? Their culture isn’t the same as White Culture, is it? And their skins are a different color, aren’t they? Shouldn’t they all go back where they came from, too?
And if you’re going to require Native Americans to go back to Asia, doesn’t that leave your Caucasians in rather an awkward position? After all, if the Reds got to America 12,000 years ago, and you’re making them leave, but the Caucasians only got here 400 years ago, and you’re letting them stay–seems a tad unfair, don’t it?
Although, of course, it would be right in line with racist practices of yore–for example, when the bus was full, it was the Blacks who would be rousted to make room for the Whites who had just gotten on the bus, even though the Blacks may have gotten on first.
Also, I’m still waiting to hear your answer to my question regarding exactly how you’re using the Bible as ideology. I’d like to know your personal theology, too–you don’t have to go into detail, just a nod towards “Conservative Protestant”, “Liberal Protestant”, “Catholic”, “Mormon”, “Jehovah’s Witness”, “Seventh Day Adventist”, whatever, etc.
Because then I’m gonna want to know how you think God feels about the distinctly uncharitable thoughts you’ve been having towards people who are “different”.
The people of Lewiston are doing their bit to “invite the stranger in”, by supporting the Somalis who have come to their city looking for better lives for themselves and their children. What have you done lately for the strangers at your gates?
And as long as I have the Bible Gateway open…
Exodus 12:49 “The same law applies to the native-born and to the alien living among you.”
Exodus 23: 9"Do not oppress an alien; you yourselves know how it feels to be aliens, because you were aliens in Egypt."
Leviticus 19:34 The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God."
And last but not least…
Leviticus 25:23" The land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants."
Interestingly enough, some of my good friends who used to be a part of the skinhead movement in Dallas, gave it up because they realized that you cant be a Christian and racist.
My ancestors were Russian. The choosing of the name “Sionnach” had something to do with a pet name someone gave me a long time ago, not my ethnicity
And, no I don’t think the Irish should have been treated badly, but I also believe that such a bad reputation must have sprung from a grain of truth back then. However, Irish had no huge social services to partake of, nor did they have flocks of liberals demanding “multiculturalism”, yet have assimilated completely. Blacks have had decades of help, equality, and tax money… yet are not assimilated besides a minority of them.
Culture is what springs from groups of people having the same faith, traditions, and values. When those groups of people are displaced by another group that has a completely different culture, the culture of the first group is radically subverted or disappears. If you flood Scotland with majority Somalis, it will turn into another Somalia and the culture of the Scots will fade away. On a massive scale, if the people in Western nations refuse to have enough children to replace themselves and their countries are flooded by people with very different values and traditions, the West will die out and become expanded territory for China, Mexico, and the Muslims.
No, I don’t wish to quibble with decontructionists who claim there is no Western Civilization, so I referred to a class you could take.
Actually, I assumed everyone here knew about it already since this is a left-leaning board, and every leftist I know makes it a personal hobby to delve into every perceived crime by the US. Forgive me for overestimating you.
Besides the Zionists, I haven’t. If multiculturalists want to have their stinking cesspit “ethniklashistan” nation on some coast, they can in my opinion. I also think that AmerIndians should have their own sovereign nation on some land of their own without any meddling or welfare from ours.
So far, can anyone give me one good reason why every white community should be flooded with non-whites til whites are a minority? Is it that you guys just believe in diversity for diversity’s sake, or that you think it’s a cute way to “get back at the white bigots”?
Most Americans don’t want more immigration floods, but the pretentious liberals choose to not even respect their wishes and condescendingly have the opinion that their wishes should never be respected because “they don’t know what’s good for them”.
Violent culture clashes? Cool! German Christians in their own country being dominated by Muslim immigrants in the future? Groovy!
Are you kidding? Indians are constantly loafing around drunk downtown and heckling people for change. My husband avoids them like the plague because they drunkenly demand money and yell at you if you don’t give it to them. I’d love to see these people be forced to live by their own hard work on their own sovereign nation instead of mooching!
I think most people know by now that the Bible has many conflicting messages that can be used to support whatever you want it to support, which is why there are numerous conflicting sects.
I want an answer. What will more likely lead to peace?
Abram’s Solution to the Strife
13:1 So Abram went up from Egypt into the Negev.1 He took his wife and all his possessions with him, as well as Lot.2 13:2 (Now Abram was very wealthy3 in livestock, silver, and gold.)4
13:3 And he journeyed from place to place5 from the Negev as far as Bethel. He returned6 to the place where he had pitched his tent7 in the beginning, between Bethel and Ai. 13:4 This was the place where he had first built the altar;8 and there Abram worshiped the Lord.9
13:5 Now Lot, who was traveling10 with Abram, also had11 flocks, herds, and tents. 13:6 But the land could12 not support them while they were living side by side.13 Because their possessions were so great, they were not able to live14 side by side. 13:7 So there were quarrels15 between Abram’s herdsmen and Lot’s herdsmen.16 (Now the Canaanites and the Perizzites were living in the land at that time.)17
13:8 Abram said to Lot, "Let there be no quarreling between me and you, and between my herdsmen and your herdsmen, for we are close relatives.18 13:9 Is not the whole land before you? Separate yourself now from me. If you go19 to the left, then I’ll go to the right; but if you go to the right, then I’ll go to the left."
Actually, blacks have had fewer than four decades of the kind of “help” you claim that they have recieved–and for at least half of that time the executive powers of the U.S. have actively or passively worked to interfere with that help–following over 300 years of violently imposed non-equality, yet a majority of them are very much assimilated into U.S. culture. The fact that a minority of people in the poorest and most crowded neighborhoods have not assimilated into the middle class suburbs reflects much more on class and economy than on ethnic differences. And the fact that you seem to be in denial regarding their general assimilation indicates that you are more interested in playing with stereotypes than in looking at genuine facts.